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Originally Posted by HailGreen28
You've(Giantone) demonstrated many times this thread that you are not part of the solution. The history of gun control in this country, particularly in urban areas today, point to your way of thinking making problems worse. And creating new problems like above.
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Originally Posted by Daseal
The bolded part of your statement is my issue. Creating a policy in one city/state doesn't really stop anything. It's still easy to go outside the city /state to obtain what you want. Until it is impossible to do so inside the entire country, it isn't possible to use past regulation as a barometer for future regulation.
I do agree that setting regulations in certain areas is pointless, but when a law becomes federal that adds many unique and much stronger implications. I feel the pro-gun argument on this site, and in general, have not really given any real justification for the necessity for assault rifles. I'm not looking for people to be unable to get hunting rifles, but I do want to keep assault rifles from being widely available.
To be honest, I think that the assault rifle ban is even acceptable by most members of this board and the culture -- at face value. However, there is 'slippery slope' concerns where eventually an assault rifle ban means a rifle ban. I understand the slippery slope argument, but at some point making it difficult, not impossible, for the mentally instable to get assault rifles will lower the amount of deaths from said assault rifles. I just don't think that the benefits of having assault rifles readily available outweigh the negatives of having assault rifles available.
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When those cities/states have more crime, including gun usage, than the cities/states that guns can be purchased from, it's not the guns that are the problem. But that would mean politicians would have to look inwards at their own social and economic policies.
When you have the ilk of Diane Fienstein setting definitions that include much more than actual assault rifles, and people like giantone posted willing to abuse existing laws (using legal gun registrations to try "outing" people), discussing reasonable gun control like a new assault weapon ban is impossible. Not that I think the old AWB accomplished a thing. Just saying. As long as there's the inclination of politicians to turn gun control into the travesty of gun regulation in DC, where a DC reporter illustrated the ridiculous hoops needed to legally own a gun
LINK (and look how well DC turned out), there's no point talking gun control. It'll only do more harm than good.