Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith

GTripp0012 · 02-11-2007, 06:05 PM

BENGALS TO TAG SMITH

A league source tells us that the Cincinnati Bengals plan to slap the franchise tag on defensive end Justin Smith.

Smith, the Bengals' first-round pick in 2001, completed his rookie contract during the 2006 season, making a salary of $2.08 million. Under the franchise tag, Smith would be eligible for a one-year deal worth $8.3 million. The total becomes guaranteed if/when Smith accepts the tender.

But accepting the tender puts him under contract and compels him to attend mandatory minicamps and training camp. If he so chooses, Smith could skip all offseason activities and training camp and sign the tender on the eve of the regular season and still make $8.3 million, guaranteed.

Withholding services is the only leverage Smith has to force a long-term deal. The risk, however, is that the team will withdraw the tag after other teams looking for defensive ends address their needs.

Smith, 27, has played in all but one game during his six-year career. He bagged 7.5 sacks in 2006 and has 41.5 for his career, which equates to an average of just under seven per year.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

On to plan B....If we have a plan B.

skinsfan69 · 02-11-2007, 08:24 PM

Was this guy even on our radar? He's a solid player. Nothing to write home about. I wouldn't give this guy big money.

Big C · 02-11-2007, 08:30 PM

he isnt worth 8.3 million

Skinz4life · 02-11-2007, 10:16 PM

I am happy to hear that the Bengals put the Franchise tag on J. Smith, hopefully that will keep the Skins away from him. There are a lot more pressing needs on defense than the Defensive ends.

That Guy · 02-11-2007, 10:26 PM

you'd think a long term deal would be a lot cheaper than that tag. I don't really think he's the kind of DE you build a defense around though. good player, but a top 6 pick has a better chance at being a real game changer.

GhettoDogAllStars · 02-12-2007, 01:23 AM

This guy is good, and good DEs are not easy to come by. You think Marvin Lewis -- a defensive guru -- would tag a player he didn't think was worth it? Or, if he thought he could easily replace him? No way. We'd be lucky to have him, but we couldn't afford that price. So, 8.3M is too much for us, but not for a team with serious Superbowl aspirations who can afford that price.

That said, I agree with That Guy ... why not sign him to a long term deal and save some money? I guess they just want to make sure he doesn't get away before the long term deal is done.

MTK · 02-12-2007, 09:22 AM

Seems like a waste to tag a guy like him. He's a solid player with a good motor and character, but he's not a top flight DE.

Schneed10 · 02-12-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seems like a waste to tag a guy like him. He's a solid player with a good motor and character, but he's not a top flight DE.

Agreed. And doesn't tagging him give him negotiating leverage? If the team thinks he's worth a one year, $8.3 million deal that the tag comes with, they can't exactly turn around and say OK we'll give you $22 million over 6 years or something.

I'm not really sure why Redskin fans are really interested in this guy. I don't see how he's much of an improvement over Phillip Daniels.

GTripp0012 · 02-12-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Agreed. And doesn't tagging him give him negotiating leverage? If the team thinks he's worth a one year, $8.3 million deal that the tag comes with, they can't exactly turn around and say OK we'll give you $22 million over 6 years or something.

I'm not really sure why Redskin fans are really interested in this guy. I don't see how he's much of an improvement over Phillip Daniels.

Younger and stouter vs. the run, basically. If Daniels' play doesn't drop off from where its been the last two seasons, then he's probably comprable to Smith.

Hog1 · 02-12-2007, 10:31 AM

I don't want anyone costing 8m

skinsfan69 · 02-12-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Younger and stouter vs. the run, basically. If Daniels' play doesn't drop off from where its been the last two seasons, then he's probably comprable to Smith.

That's not saying much cause IMO it's time for Daniles to go.

dmek25 · 02-12-2007, 11:23 AM

this means that tafkas is sitting in the corner, crying

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-12-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

That's not saying much cause IMO it's time for Daniles to go.

I actually really want to keep him if we can get him to restructure or simply take a pay cut. He's an average to slightly below average starter IMO and quality depth.

Beemnseven · 02-12-2007, 04:02 PM

Funny how people are ho-hum about a guy who got more sacks last year than anyone currently on our roster.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-12-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Funny how people are ho-hum about a guy who got more sacks last year than anyone currently on our roster.

"Getting more sacks last year than anyone currently on our roster" doesn't say that much though.

02-11-2007, 06:05 PM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith BENGALS TO TAG SMITH A league source tells us that the Cincinnati Bengals plan to slap the franchise tag on defensive end Justin Smith. Smith, the Bengals' first-round pick in 2001, completed his rookie contract during the 2006 season, making a salary of $2.08 million. Under the franchise tag, Smith would be eligible for a one-year deal worth $8.3 million. The total becomes guaranteed if/when Smith accepts the tender. But accepting the tender puts him under contract and compels him to attend mandatory minicamps and training camp. If he so chooses, Smith could skip all offseason activities and training camp and sign the tender on the eve of the regular season and still make $8.3 million, guaranteed. Withholding services is the only leverage Smith has to force a long-term deal. The risk, however, is that the team will withdraw the tag after other teams looking for defensive ends address their needs. Smith, 27, has played in all but one game during his six-year career. He bagged 7.5 sacks in 2006 and has 41.5 for his career, which equates to an average of just under seven per year. http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm On to plan B....If we have a plan B. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

02-11-2007, 08:24 PM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith Was this guy even on our radar? He's a solid player. Nothing to write home about. I wouldn't give this guy big money.

02-11-2007, 08:30 PM	#3
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith he isnt worth 8.3 million

02-11-2007, 10:16 PM	#4
Skinz4life Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Syracuse, UT Posts: 65	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith I am happy to hear that the Bengals put the Franchise tag on J. Smith, hopefully that will keep the Skins away from him. There are a lot more pressing needs on defense than the Defensive ends.

02-11-2007, 10:26 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith you'd think a long term deal would be a lot cheaper than that tag. I don't really think he's the kind of DE you build a defense around though. good player, but a top 6 pick has a better chance at being a real game changer.

02-12-2007, 01:23 AM	#6
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 43 Posts: 2,762	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith This guy is good, and good DEs are not easy to come by. You think Marvin Lewis -- a defensive guru -- would tag a player he didn't think was worth it? Or, if he thought he could easily replace him? No way. We'd be lucky to have him, but we couldn't afford that price. So, 8.3M is too much for us, but not for a team with serious Superbowl aspirations who can afford that price. That said, I agree with That Guy ... why not sign him to a long term deal and save some money? I guess they just want to make sure he doesn't get away before the long term deal is done. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

02-12-2007, 09:22 AM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith Seems like a waste to tag a guy like him. He's a solid player with a good motor and character, but he's not a top flight DE. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-12-2007, 10:31 AM	#10
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith I don't want anyone costing 8m __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

02-12-2007, 11:23 AM	#12
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith this means that tafkas is sitting in the corner, crying __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-12-2007, 04:02 PM	#14
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: Bengals plan to use franchise tag on Justin Smith Funny how people are ho-hum about a guy who got more sacks last year than anyone currently on our roster.

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