Mike Rumph just a man not superhero.

MightyJoeGibbs · 08-15-2006, 02:13 AM

This is an early article that pulls Mikes card.
San Francisco 49ers

History of being torched.
San Francisco 49ers

He wasnt playing when we torched them in '05 and '04. It seems his upside is tackling though the 49ers on WP say he cant do that either. I think we can move forward with him not so much for his immediate need of ability but a role he can ease into getting use of him by his experience. Maybe he can keep Morton/Patterson company.

His draft report.
49ers Clubhouse - 2001 Draft

Drago · 08-15-2006, 08:21 AM

It's a good lateral move, we had too many recievers and not enough depth at CB. Taylor Jacobs wasn't going to make the team anyway, at least this way we get something for him. Now if we can just keep all our injury prone corners from being hurt at the same time.

dmek25 · 08-15-2006, 08:32 AM

i dont know anything about rumph except for what i just read and i love this trade already. jacobs isnt an nfl receiver and we could use a corner. and like i said before, the more guys from the U, the better. if our coaches cant get the best out of him, then next season he will be out of the league

MTK · 08-15-2006, 08:53 AM

He had alot of upside coming out of college.

Maybe Williams and company can help get him back on track.

He seems to fit the mold of a GW corner... big, physical, and versatile.

Kope · 08-15-2006, 09:01 AM

Worst case he gets cut - so would Jacobs; best case he gets Williamsized and lives up to his potential. I'd say we can't lose.

BrudLee · 08-15-2006, 10:14 AM

This way, we at least get to hear Jacobs badmouth the franchise on the way out the door. August just doesn't seem right unless Rod Gardner (who?) or Darnerian McCants (huh?) is telling someone how we missed out on a good thing.

superskins · 08-15-2006, 10:50 AM

i can just hear arrington now "they did tell me anyhing and they didn't say anthing to taylor jacobs either, terrible franchise"

if i have to hear that i'm going to throw up

Mc2guy · 08-15-2006, 11:06 AM

IMHO an average corner with upside potential is worth more than an average receiver with upside potential. Corners are tougher to come across, and even if this guy can only become a nickel and dime package guy, that is better than a 5th or 6th receiver with no heart.

I also liked the post someone made about Nolan getting run out of town here a few years ago. Frankly, if Williams and his staff of ex D-coordinators see something in this guy worth going after, then I have a lot more confidence in their judgement than Mike "prevent-d in the third quarter" Nolan.

Monkeydad · 08-15-2006, 11:15 AM

It's a good deal for us. We have WR depth, especially with Espy's great preseason. We have always needed secondary depth. It seems even when we had it, we'd have enough injuries to wish we had MORE.

Besides, it finally rids us of Taylor Jacobs. We could trade him for a BBQ grill and I'd love the deal.

RiggoRules · 08-15-2006, 11:19 AM

Here is how I break this trade down:

Jacobs: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.
Rumph: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.

Jacobs: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.
Rumph: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.

Jacobs: Likely to be cut.
Rumph: Likely to be cut.

Looks like a great deal for both players who each get a chance at a fresh start. It will be a great deal for the team of the player takes advantage of this second chance.

diehardskin2982 · 08-15-2006, 11:42 AM

this was the best case senario because if we would have cut gim he would have wound up on an NFC East team giving away the secrets to our new playbook... at least this way he doesn't go somewhere that will hurt us and if rumph can balance out to first round talent then even better

JWsleep · 08-15-2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Here is how I break this trade down:

Jacobs: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.
Rumph: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.

Jacobs: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.
Rumph: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.

Jacobs: Likely to be cut.
Rumph: Likely to be cut.

Looks like a great deal for both players who each get a chance at a fresh start. It will be a great deal for the team of the player takes advantage of this second chance.

You are correct, sir.

hooskins · 08-15-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

this was the best case senario because if we would have cut gim he would have wound up on an NFC East team giving away the secrets to our new playbook... at least this way he doesn't go somewhere that will hurt us and if rumph can balance out to first round talent then even better

Hmm..Tim Hassleback anyone?

It is interesting how the 49ner's are quickly becoming our New York Jets of the the West.

EXoffender · 08-15-2006, 12:16 PM

The real question is how is he on Madden 07?

Longtimefan · 08-15-2006, 12:35 PM

I like the trade in that we add depth to a position so desperately needed. On the other hand, what disturbs me most is, all around the area of CB seems to be injuries. Shawn Springs had problems late last season and is having some problems now. Carlos Rogers had lingeering problems most of last year and has had some early problems this year. Mike Rumph in his brief NFL career has been beset with injury. I guess my biggest concern is how we're going to use injured players as depth for injured players. Kenny Wright was a drum Sunday night, and Jimoh is having problems also. Let's hope this injury problem somehow finds a way to no onger be a concern or we could have serious problems later on.

08-15-2006, 02:13 AM	#1
MightyJoeGibbs The Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: B-More, the backdoor for the Redskins Community Age: 45 Posts: 1,087	Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. This is an early article that pulls Mikes card. San Francisco 49ers History of being torched. San Francisco 49ers He wasnt playing when we torched them in '05 and '04. It seems his upside is tackling though the 49ers on WP say he cant do that either. I think we can move forward with him not so much for his immediate need of ability but a role he can ease into getting use of him by his experience. Maybe he can keep Morton/Patterson company. His draft report. 49ers Clubhouse - 2001 Draft __________________ Maybe in order to understand mankind we have to look at that word itself. MANKIND. Basically, it's made up of two separate words "mank"and "ind." What do these words mean? It's a mystery and that's why so is mankind. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts

08-15-2006, 08:21 AM	#2
Drago Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Severn MD. Age: 70 Posts: 43	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. It's a good lateral move, we had too many recievers and not enough depth at CB. Taylor Jacobs wasn't going to make the team anyway, at least this way we get something for him. Now if we can just keep all our injury prone corners from being hurt at the same time. __________________ You got Skins to the left, Skins to the right and your the only game in town

08-15-2006, 08:32 AM	#3
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. i dont know anything about rumph except for what i just read and i love this trade already. jacobs isnt an nfl receiver and we could use a corner. and like i said before, the more guys from the U, the better. if our coaches cant get the best out of him, then next season he will be out of the league __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

08-15-2006, 08:53 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. He had alot of upside coming out of college. Maybe Williams and company can help get him back on track. He seems to fit the mold of a GW corner... big, physical, and versatile. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-15-2006, 09:01 AM	#5
Kope Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NC Posts: 447	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. Worst case he gets cut - so would Jacobs; best case he gets Williamsized and lives up to his potential. I'd say we can't lose.

08-15-2006, 10:14 AM	#6
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. This way, we at least get to hear Jacobs badmouth the franchise on the way out the door. August just doesn't seem right unless Rod Gardner (who?) or Darnerian McCants (huh?) is telling someone how we missed out on a good thing. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

08-15-2006, 10:50 AM	#7
superskins Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 218	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. i can just hear arrington now "they did tell me anyhing and they didn't say anthing to taylor jacobs either, terrible franchise" if i have to hear that i'm going to throw up

08-15-2006, 11:06 AM	#8
Mc2guy Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Burke, VA Age: 48 Posts: 287	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. IMHO an average corner with upside potential is worth more than an average receiver with upside potential. Corners are tougher to come across, and even if this guy can only become a nickel and dime package guy, that is better than a 5th or 6th receiver with no heart. I also liked the post someone made about Nolan getting run out of town here a few years ago. Frankly, if Williams and his staff of ex D-coordinators see something in this guy worth going after, then I have a lot more confidence in their judgement than Mike "prevent-d in the third quarter" Nolan.

08-15-2006, 11:15 AM	#9
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. It's a good deal for us. We have WR depth, especially with Espy's great preseason. We have always needed secondary depth. It seems even when we had it, we'd have enough injuries to wish we had MORE. Besides, it finally rids us of Taylor Jacobs. We could trade him for a BBQ grill and I'd love the deal.

08-15-2006, 11:19 AM	#10
RiggoRules Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 380	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. Here is how I break this trade down: Jacobs: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed. Rumph: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed. Jacobs: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever. Rumph: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever. Jacobs: Likely to be cut. Rumph: Likely to be cut. Looks like a great deal for both players who each get a chance at a fresh start. It will be a great deal for the team of the player takes advantage of this second chance. __________________ *"Lighten up, Sandy Baby."*

08-15-2006, 11:42 AM	#11
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. this was the best case senario because if we would have cut gim he would have wound up on an NFC East team giving away the secrets to our new playbook... at least this way he doesn't go somewhere that will hurt us and if rumph can balance out to first round talent then even better __________________ That got ugly fast

08-15-2006, 12:16 PM	#14
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. The real question is how is he on Madden 07?

08-15-2006, 12:35 PM	#15
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Mike Rumph just a man not superhero. I like the trade in that we add depth to a position so desperately needed. On the other hand, what disturbs me most is, all around the area of CB seems to be injuries. Shawn Springs had problems late last season and is having some problems now. Carlos Rogers had lingeering problems most of last year and has had some early problems this year. Mike Rumph in his brief NFL career has been beset with injury. I guess my biggest concern is how we're going to use injured players as depth for injured players. Kenny Wright was a drum Sunday night, and Jimoh is having problems also. Let's hope this injury problem somehow finds a way to no onger be a concern or we could have serious problems later on.

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