T.J. Duckett Conspiracy

SlabHurta · 10-10-2006, 09:25 PM

I am one of those pissed off fans who wants to know wut the hell the front office was thinking picking up T.J. Duckett for a third round pick. He played like 2 downs against Dallas and has been invisible ever since. This is a guy who ran on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and goalline situations for the Falcons his entire career. And almost 85% of the time he would either pick up the first down or the touchdown. So wtf is up with him not getting that carry last week against New York on 4th and 1, rather then Gibbs being so conservative and attempting the field goal, which the much also worthless John Hall missed. Also, against he Jags we had a 3rd and 2 to close out the game and probably not even go to overtime, and we rushed Betts and he didn't pick it up, when Duckett has done stuff like that his entire career.

Gibbs did mention in a press conference recently that he reall wanted to get him in there and would love to see him play, I'm not satisfied with this waste yet. We've had to many opportunities to to use Duckett for the coaches to not use him. It just makes me mad. How about you guys?

EternalEnigma21 · 10-10-2006, 09:39 PM

wow... tell us how you really feel!

MTK · 10-10-2006, 09:44 PM

So what's the conspiracy?

Hogroll · 10-10-2006, 09:45 PM

I thought he was out on injury right now. Ankle? Hamstring?

saden1 · 10-10-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So what's the conspiracy?

Gibbs has Buyer's remorse disorder?

SouperMeister · 10-10-2006, 10:59 PM

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

htownskinfan · 10-10-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

please,please,do not question gibbs or snyder,they are gods and bygod they know what theyre doing! and the warpath gods will strike you down for having the audacity to question them
#1.brunell is not the problem,he's great
#2.hall is not the problem,he's great
#3.frost is not the problem,he's great
#4.synder is not the problem,he's great
#5.gibbs is not the problem,he's great
#6.gregg williams is not the problem,he's great
just keep repeating these 6 things to yourself and everything will be fine

Rexi · 10-10-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

This is how I have always viewed a lot of these moves. I don't know who is actually doing most of the negotiating in the 'Skins FO but he makes me scratch my head. He gets the players he and Gibbs want but the picks he gives for them are just excessive. I think many other GM's could get the same players and give up much less for them.

That Guy · 10-11-2006, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rexi

This is how I have always viewed a lot of these moves. I don't know who is actually doing most of the negotiating in the 'Skins FO but he makes me scratch my head. He gets the players he and Gibbs want but the picks he gives for them are just excessive. I think many other GM's could get the same players and give up much less for them.

like waiting a month and getting lloyd for free... "but we have a 3rd and a 4th, and uh, we don't really want to USE them, now do we?"

Hog1 · 10-11-2006, 08:03 AM

What the big deal? If we aquired TJ for insurance, can we not deal him if he is now not needed? Why are we not feeling good about Portis returning early? Have we lost something?

SlabHurta · 10-11-2006, 08:39 AM

I'm also asking why we haven't been using him in perfect situations to use him. In these pivotal points in the game, we have stuck with someone else and they weren't able to get the first down. Duckett 9 time out of 10 was able to pick up these short conversions and it makes me wonder why we have him at all?

Schneed10 · 10-11-2006, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

What the big deal? If we aquired TJ for insurance, can we not deal him if he is now not needed? Why are we not feeling good about Portis returning early? Have we lost something?

This assumes that we will trade him before the deadline, which we won't.

I'm irked by the move to acquire him as well. It was a knee-jerk reaction to Portis's shoulder. Way too much to give up for insurance. I mean we already had Betts for crying out loud. Betts wouldn't set the world on fire as a starter, but then again neither would Duckett.

Retarded move if you ask me. Gibbs' nervous nelly nature got the best of him on that move.

SUNRA · 10-11-2006, 08:48 AM

If it's about the depth chart as Coach Gibbs explained, then deactivate James Thrash and get Duckett in there. I've got a lot of questions for Coach Gibbs and I'm getting tired of the same lame explanation he has given. "We the coaching, should have prepared better, or nothing seemed to go our way. Of course it's not going your way, when every time he mentions how hard it is to play in the Meadowlands and then calls plays that did'nt stretch the field nor did I see any three to four receiver sets. It seemed Gibbs played right into the strengths of the Giants and away from the strengths of what won the game last week. Throw the fuckin' ball to Moss and let him do his thing. Damn is it that hard?

redsk1 · 10-11-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

I agree. I'm all for trying to improve our team thru the draft and free agency but let's not go overboard, which i believe will eventually hurt us.

BTW- Someone mentioned we could just trade Duckett. Who is going to give us a 3rd rounder for him? 4, 5, 6? Not likely.

onlydarksets · 10-11-2006, 09:09 AM

This does seem like the one area where it's hard to argue that the FO has "a master plan that we should all wait patiently for". Giving away picks is going to hurt us down the road, especially since it is doubtful we will be able to recoup picks on many of these players.

10-11-2006, 08:03 AM	#10
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: T.J. Duckett Conspiracy What the big deal? If we aquired TJ for insurance, can we not deal him if he is now not needed? Why are we not feeling good about Portis returning early? Have we lost something? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-11-2006, 08:39 AM	#11
SlabHurta Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 21	Re: T.J. Duckett Conspiracy I'm also asking why we haven't been using him in perfect situations to use him. In these pivotal points in the game, we have stuck with someone else and they weren't able to get the first down. Duckett 9 time out of 10 was able to pick up these short conversions and it makes me wonder why we have him at all?

10-11-2006, 08:48 AM	#13
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: T.J. Duckett Conspiracy If it's about the depth chart as Coach Gibbs explained, then deactivate James Thrash and get Duckett in there. I've got a lot of questions for Coach Gibbs and I'm getting tired of the same lame explanation he has given. "We the coaching, should have prepared better, or nothing seemed to go our way. Of course it's not going your way, when every time he mentions how hard it is to play in the Meadowlands and then calls plays that did'nt stretch the field nor did I see any three to four receiver sets. It seemed Gibbs played right into the strengths of the Giants and away from the strengths of what won the game last week. Throw the fuckin' ball to Moss and let him do his thing. Damn is it that hard? __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-11-2006, 09:09 AM	#15
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: T.J. Duckett Conspiracy This does seem like the one area where it's hard to argue that the FO has "a master plan that we should all wait patiently for". Giving away picks is going to hurt us down the road, especially since it is doubtful we will be able to recoup picks on many of these players.

10-10-2006, 09:25 PM	#1
SlabHurta Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 21	T.J. Duckett Conspiracy I am one of those pissed off fans who wants to know wut the hell the front office was thinking picking up T.J. Duckett for a third round pick. He played like 2 downs against Dallas and has been invisible ever since. This is a guy who ran on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and goalline situations for the Falcons his entire career. And almost 85% of the time he would either pick up the first down or the touchdown. So wtf is up with him not getting that carry last week against New York on 4th and 1, rather then Gibbs being so conservative and attempting the field goal, which the much also worthless John Hall missed. Also, against he Jags we had a 3rd and 2 to close out the game and probably not even go to overtime, and we rushed Betts and he didn't pick it up, when Duckett has done stuff like that his entire career. Gibbs did mention in a press conference recently that he reall wanted to get him in there and would love to see him play, I'm not satisfied with this waste yet. We've had to many opportunities to to use Duckett for the coaches to not use him. It just makes me mad. How about you guys?

10-10-2006, 09:39 PM	#2
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10-10-2006, 09:44 PM	#3
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10-10-2006, 09:45 PM	#4
Hogroll Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cecil-tucky, MD Age: 60 Posts: 274	Re: T.J. Duckett Conspiracy I thought he was out on injury right now. Ankle? Hamstring? __________________ Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein. *- Joe Theismann*

10-10-2006, 10:59 PM	#6
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Re: T.J. Duckett Conspiracy I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs. Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

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