What would Betts get on the open market today?

djnemo65 · 03-05-2007, 08:16 AM

I was thinking about this...although our deal with Betts kind of seemed like a steal at the time, how unbelievable does it seem now? He probably would have been one of the top three free agent running back prospects. It's possible he could have landed 12-15 million in guarantees or more.

What do you guys think Betts would be commanding right now if teams were bidding on him (and how mad must he be at his agent)?

Schneed10 · 03-05-2007, 08:26 AM

I think he'd get at least a $10 million signing bonus.

RedskinPete · 03-05-2007, 08:38 AM

Well the FO gets a lot of shit for the bad moves but just think what would have been said if Betts and Dockery walked after big contracts!!! Its funny how low on the radar the Betts deal was last fall!!!

MTK · 03-05-2007, 08:38 AM

That's why it amazed me that we were able to re-sign him. Just look at what Dockery got, there's your answer. Betts would have probably doubled his money at least and got a starting job.

EXoffender · 03-05-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's why it amazed me that we were able to re-sign him. Just look at what Dockery got, there's your answer. Betts would have probably doubled his money at least and got a starting job.

That's why you sign before season's end.

Hog1 · 03-05-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

That's why you sign before season's end.

I get you, but how could his agent not see this coming? Hey Drew, Ladell here.............

SouperMeister · 03-05-2007, 10:56 AM

At minimum, Betts could have gotten Lamont Jordan money on the open market, which I believe was around $30M, with close to $10M up front. I'd love to see our FO hold back enough cap to sign more core guys to extensions during the season. It was great that they got Sellers deal done before he could hit the market next offseason. The FO must do the same for Cooley, because he will command a nice sum next offseason.

Rajmahal33 · 03-05-2007, 10:57 AM

Im worried that this year's inflated market is goin to cost us Cooley next year. As loyal as the guy seems, he's gotta know that if he doesn't re-sign during the season, he will either be franchised or hit the open market, but either way he will make bank. Does anyone know how they will calculate cooley's franchise tag #? Do they average the salaries of the top paid TE's or FB's or the limited amount of H-backs in the league and who gets to decide what position he actually plays? I think the skins would get a deal with they counted him as a FB or H-back.

That Guy · 03-05-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

Im worried that this year's inflated market is goin to cost us Cooley next year. As loyal as the guy seems, he's gotta know that if he doesn't re-sign during the season, he will either be franchised or hit the open market, but either way he will make bank. Does anyone know how they will calculate cooley's franchise tag #? Do they average the salaries of the top paid TE's or FB's or the limited amount of H-backs in the league and who gets to decide what position he actually plays? I think the skins would get a deal with they counted him as a FB or H-back.

franchise tagged TEs make 4.5mill this year.
franchises FBs and H-backs count as RBs and would make 7mill this year.

Longtimefan · 03-05-2007, 11:38 AM

For some players it's all about the money, and for others, that is not always the most important thing. Betts knew he could have gotten more on the open market, but he chose to stay. Smoot probably could have gotten more had he chose to wait, he chose to come here. Maybe that says something for the Redskin tradition.

CrazyCanuck · 03-05-2007, 08:10 PM

Betts is definitely looking like the steal of this FA season, and Dockery the anti-steal.

Kudos to the front office. Even the Fletcher and Smoot deals look great in this market.

Bbaker24 · 03-05-2007, 08:49 PM

yeah you have to give him his props

That Guy · 03-05-2007, 09:44 AM

portis told betts that leaving isn't a good idea, since the grass isn't always greener... it was a great deal for the skins at the time, and now seeing ahman green... betts' agent dun f'd up.

RedskinPete · 03-05-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

portis told betts that leaving isn't a good idea, since the grass isn't always greener... it was a great deal for the skins at the time, and now seeing ahman green... betts' agent dun f'd up.

Yes and no. Did Kris Dielman make a bad deal leaving 10+million on the table in Seattle to stay in SD? Sometime it's better to stay home for less and know the team. It really up to the player!

That Guy · 03-05-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

Yes and no. Did Kris Dielman make a bad deal leaving 10+million on the table in Seattle to stay in SD? Sometime it's better to stay home for less and know the team. It really up to the player!

yeah, but dielman would have NEVER gotten even 39$mill last year.

I agree that a lot of times money isn't the most important factor, but in the NFL it's rare to take SOO much less money without even testing the market. I really think portis helped influence betts on this one from the interviews i heard... yay portis - our future GM (taylor, moss, helped on betts - anyone else he was bugging JG about?).

03-05-2007, 08:16 AM	#1
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	What would Betts get on the open market today? I was thinking about this...although our deal with Betts kind of seemed like a steal at the time, how unbelievable does it seem now? He probably would have been one of the top three free agent running back prospects. It's possible he could have landed 12-15 million in guarantees or more. What do you guys think Betts would be commanding right now if teams were bidding on him (and how mad must he be at his agent)?

03-05-2007, 08:26 AM	#2
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? I think he'd get at least a $10 million signing bonus. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-05-2007, 08:38 AM	#3
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? Well the FO gets a lot of shit for the bad moves but just think what would have been said if Betts and Dockery walked after big contracts!!! Its funny how low on the radar the Betts deal was last fall!!!

03-05-2007, 08:38 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? That's why it amazed me that we were able to re-sign him. Just look at what Dockery got, there's your answer. Betts would have probably doubled his money at least and got a starting job. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-05-2007, 10:56 AM	#7
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? At minimum, Betts could have gotten Lamont Jordan money on the open market, which I believe was around $30M, with close to $10M up front. I'd love to see our FO hold back enough cap to sign more core guys to extensions during the season. It was great that they got Sellers deal done before he could hit the market next offseason. The FO must do the same for Cooley, because he will command a nice sum next offseason.

03-05-2007, 10:57 AM	#8
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? Im worried that this year's inflated market is goin to cost us Cooley next year. As loyal as the guy seems, he's gotta know that if he doesn't re-sign during the season, he will either be franchised or hit the open market, but either way he will make bank. Does anyone know how they will calculate cooley's franchise tag #? Do they average the salaries of the top paid TE's or FB's or the limited amount of H-backs in the league and who gets to decide what position he actually plays? I think the skins would get a deal with they counted him as a FB or H-back. __________________ McNasty FTW!

03-05-2007, 11:38 AM	#10
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? For some players it's all about the money, and for others, that is not always the most important thing. Betts knew he could have gotten more on the open market, but he chose to stay. Smoot probably could have gotten more had he chose to wait, he chose to come here. Maybe that says something for the Redskin tradition. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

03-05-2007, 08:10 PM	#11
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? Betts is definitely looking like the steal of this FA season, and Dockery the anti-steal. Kudos to the front office. Even the Fletcher and Smoot deals look great in this market.

03-05-2007, 08:49 PM	#12
Bbaker24 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 38	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? yeah you have to give him his props

03-05-2007, 09:44 AM	#13
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: What would Betts get on the open market today? portis told betts that leaving isn't a good idea, since the grass isn't always greener... it was a great deal for the skins at the time, and now seeing ahman green... betts' agent dun f'd up.

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