Pats will lose because...

[The Zimmermans]

Here are the factors that will lead to a Patriots Loss at some point this season....being it regular season or playoffs.

1.) Patriots, although in New England are a warm weather team. How many big drops did they have last night due to the cold weather and winds?

2.) Bill Belichick's arrogance. He is extremely impatient with his offense and his lack of conservatism will cost him on the road one of these weeks.

3.) No established run game. The Pats could have taken control of the game with more runs on the Goal line during the first drive.

4.) Injuries. The Pats have had only one legitimate injury (Colvin), the injuries will come...and probably at the worst possible time.

5.) The Pittsburgh Steelers. This team will fight till the utter end at home in bad conditions.

6.) Clinch the #1 seed. Pats will clinch homefield and have much less to play for.

PS The Ravens (although I hate them) really showed a lot of heart last night. Ray Ray, Willis, and Ed played unbelievable games as they were honoring #21. They were obviously very heartbroken with the way the redskins couldnt pull out a victory for Sean. They took it upon themselves to do JUST THAT...and the referees and Raven's coaches defeated them in the end...just sickening.

But your thoughts on the pat's undefeated chances.

[MTK]

Regarding #2 Belichick doesn't call the offense and I really don't think he has much to do with that side of the ball at all.

I would LOVE to see them go undefeated in the regular season but lose in the playoffs. That would be a perfect scenario to me. What would sting more than that?!

[The Zimmermans]

you don't think belichik has any say on the goal line offense and going for it on 4th and 1's?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

you don't think belichik has any say on the goal line offense and going for it on 4th and 1's?

He probably makes decisions as to when to go for it, but as for the play calling no, I think he leaves that totally up to his OC.

[Stacks42]

Its wierd on the 4th and 1 in the 1st quarter they chose to kick the field goal. Why didnt they go for it? Do they only go for it when they are up by 30?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Regarding #2 Belichick doesn't call the offense and I really don't think he has much to do with that side of the ball at all.

I would LOVE to see them go undefeated in the regular season but lose in the playoffs. That would be a perfect scenario to me. What would sting more than that?!

yeah, I want them to lose their first round playoff game. I'd love to see all of those cocky Boston fans with that "this isn't supposed to happen" look on their faces...

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Here are the factors that will lead to a Patriots Loss at some point this season....being it regular season or playoffs.

1.) Patriots, although in New England are a warm weather team. How many big drops did they have last night due to the cold weather and winds?

2.) Bill Belichick's arrogance. He is extremely impatient with his offense and his lack of conservatism will cost him on the road one of these weeks.

3.) No established run game. The Pats could have taken control of the game with more runs on the Goal line during the first drive.

4.) Injuries. The Pats have had only one legitimate injury (Colvin), the injuries will come...and probably at the worst possible time.

5.) The Pittsburgh Steelers. This team will fight till the utter end at home in bad conditions.

6.) Clinch the #1 seed. Pats will clinch homefield and have much less to play for.

PS The Ravens (although I hate them) really showed a lot of heart last night. Ray Ray, Willis, and Ed played unbelievable games as they were honoring #21. They were obviously very heartbroken with the way the redskins couldnt pull out a victory for Sean. They took it upon themselves to do JUST THAT...and the referees and Raven's coaches defeated them in the end...just sickening.

But your thoughts on the pat's undefeated chances.

Congrats on your graduation from 12th's school of thread starting...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Its wierd on the 4th and 1 in the 1st quarter they chose to kick the field goal. Why didnt they go for it? Do they only go for it when they are up by 30?

LOL yeah that's pretty much it.

Amazing in a close game all of a sudden they lose that cocky, all or nothing swagger.

"What do you want us to do, kick a FG?" --'King of the douche bags' Bill Belichick

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Regarding #2 Belichick doesn't call the offense and I really don't think he has much to do with that side of the ball at all.

I would LOVE to see them go undefeated in the regular season but lose in the playoffs. That would be a perfect scenario to me. What would sting more than that?!

I actually think this will happen.

They might have to play the Jags and the Colts in back to back weeks. If they can beat the Jags (thats a big if), then I think Indy will get them.

The Indianapolis defense has been incredible this season. If not for the Colts offense being injured and Peyton having his roughest season since 2001 (PLAYOFFS?!?!?!), they would be 4 games away from 16-0 right now.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Here are the factors that will lead to a Patriots Loss at some point this season....being it regular season or playoffs.

1.) Patriots, although in New England are a warm weather team. How many big drops did they have last night due to the cold weather and winds?

This is the big point I think.

With the weather as the great equalizer, what makes NE's homefield advantage in the playoffs a good thing? Peyton is more than capable of outplaying Brady in the conditions, and right now Garrard may be hotter than either of them.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Regarding #2 Belichick doesn't call the offense and I really don't think he has much to do with that side of the ball at all.

I would LOVE to see them go undefeated in the regular season but lose in the playoffs. That would be a perfect scenario to me. What would sting more than that?!

And to have the playoff loss be to the Colts.

That's what I'm hoping for.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Its wierd on the 4th and 1 in the 1st quarter they chose to kick the field goal. Why didnt they go for it? Do they only go for it when they are up by 30?

Well when the game is close you go for the points when your winning by 30 it really does not matter what you do.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Here are the factors that will lead to a Patriots Loss at some point this season....being it regular season or playoffs.

1.) Patriots, although in New England are a warm weather team. How many big drops did they have last night due to the cold weather and winds?

2.) Bill Belichick's arrogance. He is extremely impatient with his offense and his lack of conservatism will cost him on the road one of these weeks.

3.) No established run game. The Pats could have taken control of the game with more runs on the Goal line during the first drive.

4.) Injuries. The Pats have had only one legitimate injury (Colvin), the injuries will come...and probably at the worst possible time.

5.) The Pittsburgh Steelers. This team will fight till the utter end at home in bad conditions.

6.) Clinch the #1 seed. Pats will clinch homefield and have much less to play for.

PS The Ravens (although I hate them) really showed a lot of heart last night. Ray Ray, Willis, and Ed played unbelievable games as they were honoring #21. They were obviously very heartbroken with the way the redskins couldnt pull out a victory for Sean. They took it upon themselves to do JUST THAT...and the referees and Raven's coaches defeated them in the end...just sickening.

But your thoughts on the pat's undefeated chances.

1) Pats play fine in cold weather and have a bunch of big wins in the snow. Wind was more of a factor last night which effected both teams.

2) Last night when they were down he was over with the D and had his back to the field so I would not call that impatient. Don't we all bitch about conservatism here?

3)Pats are ranked 8th in the NFL in rushing and #1 in about everything else so one game does not change those facts.

4) Injuries are something no team can control but the Pats have more depth then most teams in the NFL or they just make a player switch.

5) Yea the Steelers do fight hard loosing to one of the worst teams (jets) then the 3 point win over the (Dolphins) and winning against Cin.

6) Not sure which Pats team you have been watching but they have not showng a willingness to slow down against any team this year. They want to break records and go undefeated. Besides that you nailed it.

[70Chip]

... because their defense looks average the last couple of the weeks. Maybe they turn it up for the playoffs, but they look like they could be had to me.

[prinzeofmoval]

pride comes before the fall....brady was heard saying and i quote" i would've gotten the first down anyway.i just stopped because of the whistle" that was the play ray ray and the boys stopped him on forth down before that gibbs like timeout call