Analasis!

[offiss]

#1 I have seen enough of Gardner, he makes one great play, then drop's 3 easy passes, he will never be a reciever that can be relied on, he will kill you every time, he's the little girl with the curl.

#2 Portis- they have to get him into a trap blocking scheme, he can not run hard between the tackles, he is not a straight ahead runner, he has to be givin room to manuver, system back?????????? for 50 mil.,We better impliment the system.

#3 Ramsey- although he threw 3 pick's [didn't look like his fault, coles] I saw enough of him to see I want him in there now, learning and getting comfortable in this offense, that I believe will eliminate the dumb INT's, I think you can attribute those INT's to the fact that he's really trying to make something out of nothing to win the starting job, by the way, if Gardner makes a simple catch for an easy TD, there is no first INT!!!!!!!!

#4 Our replay X-ref- Carter catch in the end zone when he had 2 feet in, hit, and rolled, I thought the rule is that it's still continuation? No different than what happened to us with Coles last year, you have to control the ball after you hit, or take more than 2 step's in some kind of attempt to do something after the catch. Also, is it me, or did Carter's catch down the right sideline for a first down, have only one foot in clearly stepping out of bound's? I didn't focus on the replay with that, they just checked to see if he went out of bound's before the catch?

#5 defense- Not much of a push from the front 4, but we knew that would be the case starting the season, Warner need's more time out there, seem's to be our best pass rusher amoungst D-linemen, Bowen has to learn to keep the reciever in front of him, over all can't complain after the hand they were dealt by the offense.

#6 offensive line- Horrible, even with Portis not being a straight ahead runner, they have to be better than that, end of story!

#7 Brunnell- He can't throw the deep ball, period! I am just not impressed with the guy, he's a well seasoned veteran, he should be better than what we are seeing, I see much more potential for this offense with Ramsey.

[JWsleep]

Ramsey better learn fast. Brunell looked like he got one of those nagging, tough to heal strains.

As for Portis, I thought we should have stuck with him more. If he gets by that blitz, he can take it all the way. But he CANNOT fumble like that. WTF?

Don't know about the replay stuff.

Defense was good, overall, though NO SACKS and NO TOs. Still, after 7 TOs of our own, we were only down 6. Daniels was hurt, and that sucks for the down four.

As for the QB play, Brunell can't throw and Ramsey can't read. This is a big problem. BUt the GInts were blitzing all the time. Where was the screen/draw/dumpoff/etc type play to lossen things up? Not a lot of deception from GIbbs and Co. And it would take some pressure off Ramsey.

Final analysis: if you turn the ball over 7 times, you will lose, 100% of the time. THat is the only encouraging thing. I sincerely hope we can fix that, or we are in big trouble. But if we can, and if we can get the runing game going again, we'll be ok. THe passing game is a work in progress, and it will be even longer to fix, with Brunell hurt.

Rome wasn't built in a day, but did we have to lose like that??? I have to live in this freakin town and put up with the gints fans. I hate life right now.

[redwagonskins]

Perhaps if we can have the NFL allow the helmet headphones to stay on and Brunell could tell Ramsey the read and where to throw the ball...

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

Perhaps if we can have the NFL allow the helmet headphones to stay on and Brunell could tell Ramsey the read and where to throw the ball...

both qbs have a lot of work to do.

[monk81]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

Perhaps if we can have the NFL allow the helmet headphones to stay on and Brunell could tell Ramsey the read and where to throw the ball...

So what you are saying get some clones, put Burnell's brain in Ramsey's body.........?????

[backrow]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

Perhaps if we can have the NFL allow the helmet headphones to stay on and Brunell could tell Ramsey the read and where to throw the ball...

Brunells head with Rams arm!

[CrazyCanuck]

Yesterday's loss was so ugly I'm just getting over it. Not to mention that Dolphins-Bengals game put me into a coma. Anyways I finally feel refreshed and here are my thoughts on yesterday:

- Coles - first time I EVER remember Coles dropping a pass, which says it all. Nothing bad to say to my favorite Skin.

- Ramsey - First pick shoulda never happened but still a poor decision. The second pick was partly Coles' fault but still a forced throw. The third pick was just plain ugly. Despite Ramsey's struggles he still moved the offense MUCH better than Brunell. Plus we were in pass mode with no time for help from the running game. Let me ask you this - if the game went to overtime and Brunell came back healthy who would you have wanted in there? Neither choice was too appealing but personally I'd rather have seen Ramsey. I'm a huge Ramsey fan and yesterday didn't change that. I will concede though that PR will never start until he can make better decisions.

- Brunell - far from the calming influence I was hoping for. Some poor decisions and nothing generated downfield. The playcalling was partly to blame and the OL didn't do much to help either, but still a very unimpressive effort.

- Samuels - thanks for the crucial penalty and the $9M cap hit.

- Gardner - where to start? I'm one of RG's only supporters. I've said before I think Gardner can be HUGE in Gibbs' offense. The first 2 weeks have proven that. Of course, he needs to catch the f#%#$#@% ball!!!! How can he make that 50yd circus catch then drop the one in the endzone??? It's mindboggling. What's 50/50 mean anyways? If it's because he catches only 50% of the passes then I suggest it be changed to 25/75. Anyways I will continue to stick by Rod a little longer, but not sure that Gibbs and the Warpath will.

- Portis - I love this guy. Let me be the first to congratulate CP on 3 MONSTER blocks. I was amazed. Also, he's proving to be a very dangerous threat as a receiver. I'd like to see them bust him outside more and run a few more screens. There's no point for Portis to grind out those 2-3 yd gains up the middle when we're just pounding and killing clock. Let's get Betts more involved on those. That being said, the fumble on our 15yd line was inexcusable, especially against that team. I think that was the biggest mistake we made all day (there were MANY to choose from). But I'll let it slide, this time.

- Thrash - Don't worry JT, I did notice you were the one who stripped the ball on their fumble. Great job and it's good to have you back on ST. By the way you might be starting at WR soon.

- Defense - another solid outing. I really like Williams' blitzing schemes. I can't wait to see who he's brining next. The only bad call I saw all day was on that key 3rd down late in the game. He brought Springs but not enough else. Still waiting to see how we look against a real offense but so far this unit has been the brightest spot on this team. PS - Keep bringing Bowen, cuz he's a coverage timebomb.

- Cooley - So far I really like what I see. I hope he can keep it up. This was a better draft pick than Taylor (just kidding).

- Gibbs - hard to blame the coaches for 7 turnovers especially from the stars. My only complaint is I'd like to see the Skins more aggressive downfield early. There's no rule that says we can't build a 14 or 21 point lead. Then again I've been lodging the same complaint since 1982 so I hope coach Gibbs never listens to me.

- Summary - despite the UGLY way we lost yesterday I still have very high hopes for this team. I do see a playoff caliber team with many offensive weapons and a defense that seems to be on the right page. Hopefully this loss will be a blessing in disguise. I hope I don't see 7 turnovers total the rest of the season. Also keep in mind these are the sh$%#$%#y Giants. They ALWAYS bring their opponents down to their level. Does that 7-7 tie bring back any memories? I can't remember one single Giants game where the Skins actually played well. So boys and girls keep your heads up and keep looking forward.

WE WANT DALLAS!

GO SKINS

[saden1]

7 turnovers is all that has to be said.

[JWsleep]

lol

[monk81]

Originally Posted by offiss

#1 I have seen enough of Gardner, he makes one great play, then drop's 3 easy passes, he will never be a reciever that can be relied on, he will kill you every time, he's the little girl with the curl.

#3 Ramsey- although he threw 3 pick's [didn't look like his fault, coles] I saw enough of him to see I want him in there now, learning and getting comfortable in this offense, that I believe will eliminate the dumb INT's,

#4 Our replay X-ref- Carter catch in the end zone when he had 2 feet in, hit, and rolled, I thought the rule is that it's still continuation? No different than what happened to us with Coles last year, you have to control the ball after you hit, or take more than 2 step's in some kind of attempt to do something after the catch. Also, is it me, or did Carter's catch down the right sideline for a first down, have only one foot in clearly stepping out of bound's? I didn't focus on the replay with that, they just checked to see if he went out of bound's before the catch?

#1 Gardner-he dropped a couple of passes against the Bucs and continues this trend against the Gints..........Perhaps Thrash should move up and take Gardner's place.......

#3 Ramsey-Yes, he looked better than Burnell, but Gibbs just won't tolerate the interceptions...Ramsey better learn to throw it away or he's on the bench and Tim moves to #2.

#4-I thought the same thing abut Carter's catch....but despite having an
ex-official in the booth Gibbs didn't challenge the call...........

#5-Special Teams-The special teams did improve, what hurt us was having to use an injured kicker.........at least that's a positive......

[MTK]

-Portis had a fluke of a day, perhaps he's pressing, either way don't expect his fumble problems to continue.

-The play of the QB's is a concern but I think most of us expected them to struggle early in the year. I don't care what anyone says Ramsey isn't ready to take over yet, he just doesn't see the field well enough.

-Gardner's drops are getting old, it's the same old story with him year after year.

-Gardner wasn't the only culprit today, seems like the whole offense left their hands at Redskins Park.

-If it wasn't for the D we would have been smoked. Still, it was a little concerning to see how effectively the Giants attacked the defense at times. All in all a very solid effort from the D.

[SmootSmack]

I think it was Sunra who said we need to mix it up and he's right. Let's get Betts more involved. I liked what we did early with Sellers and Cooley. Even last week when we came out passing, it was quick, short passes that were essentially runs. Some may see it as boring football but what it does is draw in the defense and open things up for some man on man coverage deep.

As for Ramsey, I'm concerned that he simply isn't improving at all on the intangibles-having pocket presence, not forcing throws, being on the same page as his receivers on routes, not telegraphing passes. I think the gunslinger mentality he's got is hurting his progress.

The defense was on point and our return game was much improved this week. One game is no reason to panic

[Daseal]

Yeah guys, Coles dropped a couple right in his hands but we aren't burning him at the stake. Rod Gardner did make the most spectacular catch of the day too.

[SUNRA]

What Gardner does is back himself into a corner. He makes the hard catches and can't make the easy ones.

1. We must activate McCants. Hell he had the most TD's last year and he's not even on the active list. Please.
2. Ledell Betts must get more reps. Where's Rock Cartwright? We could have used him today.
3. We have to approach these kind of games with great preparation. I think some of playcalling was not effective against this defense. Let's throw some screen passes.
4.Sean Taylor can not rome around without instruction. He looked confused when the Giants called an audible. Let's focus man!
5.Don't even think about playing like this against the Cowboys.

[redwagonskins]

Cowpokes beat the Browns and didn't look too bad. We've got to step things up and not drop too many division games. I'm sure that this team is going to be really strong at the end of the season, however, my hope is that we can pull off enough wins early to make it count. Losing to the gints is no way to start. The fact of the matter is they were not good. 7 turnovers and only a six point loss show that we beat ourselves. I'm just curious what player is going to step up as a team leader. Obviously Lavar is doing it for the D so who on offense is going to get them fired up and focused? Gibbs can coach his heart out but the players need to execute.