is there a way that we the fans can be heard???

DFI · 10-13-2009, 07:03 PM

I like many of the posters on this forum, am hugely frustrated with the status of the team. I have been a skins fan since 1976 (Except for a brief period during my teen years when I lost my mind and rooted for the eagles for 2 seasons). At this point of the season I am ready to pull what little hair i have out. the o line is again a problem and is not going to get any better. For what ever reason the front office refuses to see that we need an O Line to get anything done. Last year we were the only team in the league that didn't have a starting O Lineman in his 20's. this year was almost as bad and to make matters worse, when Randy Thomas went out for the year the filled his roster spot with a 5th running back (who has yet to be active for a game).

Look back to our super bowl years and ask the question, what was the anchor of those teams? it was the Hogs and the coach. different Qb's, Rb's and Wr's but we had a solid o line with much of the same personel from year to year. We also had an owner that was less hands on.

In my opinion a hands on owner leads to disfunction (see Jones in Dallas and Davis in Oakland) so much so that many of the quality coaches won't come here becuse of the messed up front office. and unless we see some front office changes we are doomed. The big difference between Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0 was not him, his age or the fact that the game had changed, it was the difference in ownership and front office.

So as Mr. Snyder prepares to hire his 7th coach in 11 years and waste huge money on uneffective free agent moves while refusing to address real needs, I ask the question what is a fan to do?

I don't have the ability to switch teams, I will quit following football before I will pull for someone else but is there anything we can do?

I wonder what would happen if we the fans could send a message to mr. Snyder and say, untill things change we are done. we are not buying gear, we are not buying tickets and we are not buying concessions if we already have tickets. Could that send the desired messge? I don't know I am just asking

I there any way we the fans can be heard?

GhettoDogAllStars · 10-13-2009, 07:12 PM

The only way to get through to Snyder is to hit him where it really hurts: his pockets (and maybe his balls too for good measure).

The only card fans can play is to stop going to games. If the stadium isn't sold out, then the game is not aired on TV. Do this until the Redskins become unprofitable and Snyder would either sell the team or wake up and see the truth. Problem is, us Redskins fans are f'ing whores when it comes to this team -- far too dedicated and emotionally invested to demand more from our owner and boycott until things change. So, the short answer is: No. So sorry. Thanks for playing "Raped and Shamed" featuring Dan Snyder. Better luck next time!

DFI · 10-13-2009, 07:15 PM

its to bad a walk out of sorts could be staged. a half full stadium would send a message sure enough

Longtimefan · 10-13-2009, 07:17 PM

You can enjoy the consolation of knowing you are not alone, many fans are asking that same question. What can we do? Through our efforts here at the warpath in conjunction with the efforts of others elsewhere, the word is getting to Ashburn. What affect it's going to have remains to be seen.

DFI · 10-13-2009, 07:20 PM

Anyone know of a good address? would a huge letter writing campagin have any effect?

cpayne5 · 10-13-2009, 07:31 PM

For the most part, fans are ignorant and irrational. They know this. Don't waste your time.

DFI · 10-13-2009, 07:45 PM

its sad really. However I got a good laugh out of this Daniel Snyder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia scroll down to the section labeled personal. I don't know who posted that but it did make me laugh

warpaint · 10-13-2009, 07:51 PM

It starts with the guys here like Matty and Smoot they would have the pull to get something together with there connections in redskin nation it would start slow but Im sure it could happen.

BleedBurgundy · 10-13-2009, 07:52 PM

don't buy tickets or any other licensed product. Nothing.

RedskinMike · 10-13-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DFI

its sad really. However I got a good laugh out of this Daniel Snyder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia scroll down to the section labeled personal. I don't know who posted that but it did make me laugh

Now thats funny

DFI · 10-13-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

don't buy tickets or any other licensed product. Nothing.

i agree, but could enough people participate to make it noticeable. that is the question

Longtimefan · 10-13-2009, 08:03 PM

Breaking News: Washington Redskins Owner Dan Snyder Set To Hire New GM.

Team owner, Daniel Snyder, looking to add a spark to the struggling Redskins, has found a new General Manager for his team.

Snyder has offered the position to a money stack with big googly eyes. The money stack is currently a pitchman for GEICO Insurance.

The deal is reportedly worth the unguaranteed portion of Albert Hanesworth's $100 million contract.

Snyder will likely be retaining Executive Vice President of Football Operations, Vinnie Cerrato, The 'Skins owner said the move simply "brings in another set of eyes."

Snyder recently placed a sort of gag order on Defensive Coordinator Greg Blache, something not neccessary with the potential new GM, as he only communicates via text, never verbally.

Snyder was also impressed that the GEICO representative, like himself, was made of money.

There is a possibility that, if hired the money stack could bring in his own crew, including the Geico Gecko to replace head coach Jim Zorn. Zorn denied the rumor, but did mention that he"always feels like somebody's watching me"

Dan Snyder revealed that an overriding factor in his decision to make this move was "the money he could be saving by switching to GEICO (employees)

jsarno · 10-13-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

don't buy tickets or any other licensed product. Nothing.

Problem is, we have too many fans, and too many of us will not hear that, or just not do it. That is the SMART way to do it assuming you can get enough media attention so that all our fans jump on board.

If there was access to write to these people, they would have thousands upon thousands of letters or e-mails explaining what they think the skins should do. Sure some people know what to do, but majority of people don't have a clue. I'm sure you'd get comments like "trade for Peyton Manning" etc. You can't listen to the public or you will collapse. Then again, could it get much worse than how we're playing?

Hog1 · 10-13-2009, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

You can enjoy the consolation of knowing you are not alone, many fans are asking that same question. What can we do? Through our efforts here at the warpath in conjunction with the efforts of others elsewhere, the word is getting to Ashburn. What affect it's going to have remains to be seen.

You can bet your butt....somebody in the Skins organization is assigned to monitor such things and keep their finger on the collective pulse of Redskin nation. AND....it ain't good. Is it enough to get VC moved out of football ops? Time will tell.
AND, I can say, I have been a Skins fan since 1970 > <. In that time I cannot remember the morale of the fan or apparently the team being worse. This must be obvious to DanFinger

Skinny Tee · 10-13-2009, 08:26 PM

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10-13-2009, 07:03 PM	#1
DFI Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On the Road Age: 58 Posts: 231	is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? I like many of the posters on this forum, am hugely frustrated with the status of the team. I have been a skins fan since 1976 (Except for a brief period during my teen years when I lost my mind and rooted for the eagles for 2 seasons). At this point of the season I am ready to pull what little hair i have out. the o line is again a problem and is not going to get any better. For what ever reason the front office refuses to see that we need an O Line to get anything done. Last year we were the only team in the league that didn't have a starting O Lineman in his 20's. this year was almost as bad and to make matters worse, when Randy Thomas went out for the year the filled his roster spot with a 5th running back (who has yet to be active for a game). Look back to our super bowl years and ask the question, what was the anchor of those teams? it was the Hogs and the coach. different Qb's, Rb's and Wr's but we had a solid o line with much of the same personel from year to year. We also had an owner that was less hands on. In my opinion a hands on owner leads to disfunction (see Jones in Dallas and Davis in Oakland) so much so that many of the quality coaches won't come here becuse of the messed up front office. and unless we see some front office changes we are doomed. The big difference between Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0 was not him, his age or the fact that the game had changed, it was the difference in ownership and front office. So as Mr. Snyder prepares to hire his 7th coach in 11 years and waste huge money on uneffective free agent moves while refusing to address real needs, I ask the question what is a fan to do? I don't have the ability to switch teams, I will quit following football before I will pull for someone else but is there anything we can do? I wonder what would happen if we the fans could send a message to mr. Snyder and say, untill things change we are done. we are not buying gear, we are not buying tickets and we are not buying concessions if we already have tickets. Could that send the desired messge? I don't know I am just asking I there any way we the fans can be heard? __________________ 'Russ Grimm would swallow his dip by halftime and throw up on somebody's shoes. Jeff Bostic and Mark May were fighting about who'd missed an assignment. And man did Riggo stink from his hangover. But we got it done.' Don Warren

10-13-2009, 07:12 PM	#2
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 43 Posts: 2,762	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? The only way to get through to Snyder is to hit him where it really hurts: his pockets (and maybe his balls too for good measure). The only card fans can play is to stop going to games. If the stadium isn't sold out, then the game is not aired on TV. Do this until the Redskins become unprofitable and Snyder would either sell the team or wake up and see the truth. Problem is, us Redskins fans are f'ing whores when it comes to this team -- far too dedicated and emotionally invested to demand more from our owner and boycott until things change. So, the short answer is: No. So sorry. Thanks for playing "Raped and Shamed" featuring Dan Snyder. Better luck next time! __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

10-13-2009, 07:15 PM	#3
DFI Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On the Road Age: 58 Posts: 231	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? its to bad a walk out of sorts could be staged. a half full stadium would send a message sure enough __________________ 'Russ Grimm would swallow his dip by halftime and throw up on somebody's shoes. Jeff Bostic and Mark May were fighting about who'd missed an assignment. And man did Riggo stink from his hangover. But we got it done.' Don Warren

10-13-2009, 07:17 PM	#4
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? You can enjoy the consolation of knowing you are not alone, many fans are asking that same question. What can we do? Through our efforts here at the warpath in conjunction with the efforts of others elsewhere, the word is getting to Ashburn. What affect it's going to have remains to be seen.

10-13-2009, 07:20 PM	#5
DFI Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On the Road Age: 58 Posts: 231	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? Anyone know of a good address? would a huge letter writing campagin have any effect? __________________ 'Russ Grimm would swallow his dip by halftime and throw up on somebody's shoes. Jeff Bostic and Mark May were fighting about who'd missed an assignment. And man did Riggo stink from his hangover. But we got it done.' Don Warren

10-13-2009, 07:31 PM	#6
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? For the most part, fans are ignorant and irrational. They know this. Don't waste your time. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

10-13-2009, 07:45 PM	#7
DFI Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On the Road Age: 58 Posts: 231	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? its sad really. However I got a good laugh out of this Daniel Snyder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia scroll down to the section labeled personal. I don't know who posted that but it did make me laugh __________________ 'Russ Grimm would swallow his dip by halftime and throw up on somebody's shoes. Jeff Bostic and Mark May were fighting about who'd missed an assignment. And man did Riggo stink from his hangover. But we got it done.' Don Warren

10-13-2009, 07:51 PM	#8
warpaint The Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Great State of Texas Posts: 1,022	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? It starts with the guys here like Matty and Smoot they would have the pull to get something together with there connections in redskin nation it would start slow but Im sure it could happen. __________________ "Not only do you get a 1st down, but you get a whole new set of downs" John Madden

10-13-2009, 07:52 PM	#9
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? don't buy tickets or any other licensed product. Nothing. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

10-13-2009, 08:03 PM	#12
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? Breaking News: Washington Redskins Owner Dan Snyder Set To Hire New GM. Team owner, Daniel Snyder, looking to add a spark to the struggling Redskins, has found a new General Manager for his team. Snyder has offered the position to a money stack with big googly eyes. The money stack is currently a pitchman for GEICO Insurance. The deal is reportedly worth the unguaranteed portion of Albert Hanesworth's $100 million contract. Snyder will likely be retaining Executive Vice President of Football Operations, Vinnie Cerrato, The 'Skins owner said the move simply "brings in another set of eyes." Snyder recently placed a sort of gag order on Defensive Coordinator Greg Blache, something not neccessary with the potential new GM, as he only communicates via text, never verbally. Snyder was also impressed that the GEICO representative, like himself, was made of money. There is a possibility that, if hired the money stack could bring in his own crew, including the Geico Gecko to replace head coach Jim Zorn. Zorn denied the rumor, but did mention that he"always feels like somebody's watching me" Dan Snyder revealed that an overriding factor in his decision to make this move was "the money he could be saving by switching to GEICO (employees)

10-13-2009, 08:26 PM	#15
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: is there a way that we the fans can be heard??? 106.7 The Fan __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

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