Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game

hooskins · 01-04-2006, 06:11 PM

Ok so I am thinking of a few plays that might work on offense next game.

1)I really would like to something like that pump-fake, 180 degree turn and pass to Cooley. It worked pretty well, and I think the Pats run it quite a bit. Only concern for that would be Brunell's knee.
2) HB pass with Portis! He has a 113 QB rating or something.
3)A play-action pass deep on the first possesion of the game for the Skins. Just to keep their D honest and to take a shot.
4)Get Trash, Brown, and maybe even Jacobs involved early with short in routes, etc. to keep the D from swarming Moss.
5) Bc Barber is gonna be on Moss, run a pump and go, because Barber will bit for the interception.
6)The people at XtremeSkins posted a thread about a fake screen pass deep, but the argument agaisnt that is that it will take too long to develop and their not enough time to get it off.

Your guys opinion, and any more plays that will be valuable?

mooby · 01-04-2006, 06:15 PM

I want to see Moss with another screen. With Cooley last week it wasn't the same, Cooley has nowhere near enough speed as moss.

saden1 · 01-04-2006, 06:26 PM

Do what the Falcons did in their last Monday Night game with a little wrinkle...fake a sweep with Portis then have Portis toss the ball back to Brunell to throw a TD to Moss.

I wouldn't mind seeing two back sets with Portis and Betts either. Just jam run plays down their throat. Run to the weak side, run to the strong side, up the gut, and screen plays here and there. Hell, get fancy and shift the Portis and Betts all game long, to the slot, to the 3 wide out spot, maybe even a little tight end action.

Dirtbag · 01-04-2006, 06:28 PM

40 gut, baby

FRPLG · 01-04-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saden1

Do what the Falcons did in their last Monday Night game with a little wrinkle...fake a sweep with Portis then have Portis toss the ball back to Brunell to throw a TD to Moss.

I wouldn't mind seeing two back sets with Portis and Betts either. Just jam run plays down their throat. Run to the weak side, run to the strong side, up the gut, and screen plays here and there. Hell, get fancy and shift the Portis and Betts all game long, to the slot, to the 3 wide out spot, maybe even a little tight end action.

To expand on this I have wondered why we haven't gotten just a few running plays to Cooley this year. Seeing as how he sometimes is in the backfield before running his pattern or blocking a few running plays would give teams one more thing to worry about. Not that he would super sucessful or anything but it would provide a wrinkle for teams to give some time in prep to.

Defensewins · 01-04-2006, 06:55 PM

I say run the ball right at Simeon Rice, the guy is 245 pounds soaking wet. Run his ass over. Kim Bokamper comes to mind.
Also run right over Chris Hovan. He is also light for a DT.

Tha Bucs d-line is built to rush the passer, so lets not play into their strength by passing too much.
Use up the clock. Keep our Defense off the field, since they were on the field almost the entire Eagles game.

gibbsisgod · 01-04-2006, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooby

I want to see Moss with another screen. With Cooley last week it wasn't the same, Cooley has nowhere near enough speed as moss.

The wr screen to moss, and the one to cooley are ran for two totally different reasons.moss's screen is clearly called for when we need a big play, while cooley's is used to set us up in managable third down situations.it seems to me that brunell has the freedom to call that play when ever he wants, when he sees the cb playing off 5 yards or more, then he should check at the line.what this does is makes the cb play tight bump and run coverage.this also forces the safties to play pass first and run support second.this is why we need to run the ball well, this will obviously open up play action to moss.cooley wr screen also needs to be called a couple of times in this game just to get him involved. i did not feel comfortable with our offense when he wasnt getting his touches.cooley can be a game changer. he breaks alot of tackles and can pick up tough yards underneath. he fires up everybody with his strong play.it wouldnt hurt if taylor jacobs caught a pass for us once in a while, he is on the team you know

FRPLG · 01-04-2006, 07:43 PM

I have a play for the Bucs.
Please run a crossing pattern in the middle of the field with Joey Galloway and anyone else. We will oblige by conveniently not covering Mr Galloway with a Corner but we do reserve the right to pick him up downfield with a certain safety running a full speed with a kill shot on his mind.
We will call this the 21 Cross Kill Shot. Please be advised you are allowed to run this as many times as needed for the kill shot to be effective. It should only take one though.

hooskins · 01-04-2006, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I have a play for the Bucs.
Please run a crossing pattern in the middle of the field with Joey Galloway and anyone else. We will oblige by conveniently not covering Mr Galloway with a Corner but we do reserve the right to pick him up downfield with a certain safety running a full speed with a kill shot on his mind.
We will call this the 21 Cross Kill Shot. Please be advised you are allowed to run this as many times as needed for the kill shot to be effective. It should only take one though.

Haha I like it.

44deisel44 · 01-04-2006, 08:07 PM

PORTIS PORTIS PORTIS.........hello seahawks.

Need some screens in there though. Always good against a quick, sack driven defensive line.

Warpath · 01-04-2006, 08:13 PM

I want to see the short pass (under 5 yards, usually used inside the 5 yard line or close to first down marker) to either the right or left involving Cooley or Sellers. I don't think we have run this play enough yet this year. I also don't think the Bucs D will be looking for the Moss screen either, we also haven't run that one enough.
I think there is a need to involve Cooley. For some reason he seems to get open alot and the guy has great hands. You can also bet, actually forget the bet, you can guarantee Mr Clinton Portis will get many many touches. Also as in the Eagles game the complimentary Ladell Betts for 8 yards also helps.
One more thing, I cant argue with 40 gut. Go O Line, Go Skins!

Beemnseven · 01-04-2006, 09:28 PM

Saw this play in the 2002 Orange Bowl - Florida vs. Maryland.

With the Gators down near the Terps 5-yard line or so, there were three wideouts lined up on the left side, and one of them took a step or two back from the line just as the ball was snapped, seemingly positioning himself to catch a WR screen. Grossman (I think he was QB then) faked the throw to that wideout, while one of the others headed straight for the back of the endzone. With the entire defense locked in on the original wideout, getting ready to swarm him, the other WR was wide open in the back of the endzone as the ball was lobbed to him.

The result was an easy touchdown.

That play, and other misdirection plays work well against aggressive defenses that are quick to converge on the ball carrier.

GoSkins! · 01-04-2006, 09:49 PM

I think that the plays we used last time should work again. If we score thirty points, I don't think we will lose this time.

PorterHouse · 01-04-2006, 09:57 PM

A whole lotsa Portis and a heavy dose Cooley <-----------player of the game Watch what I tell ya Chris Cooley. cut backs for Portis and screens for Cooley

SouperMeister · 01-04-2006, 10:03 PM

In his two Redskins games against Tampa, Portis has nearly 300 yards, and that was BEFORE Gibbs' all-out commitment to go smashmouth 5 weeks back. I say go with Sellers as an extra TE and run right at Simeon Rice 'til the cows come home. Nothing kills a team's will like running the ball down their throat.

01-04-2006, 06:11 PM	#1
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game Ok so I am thinking of a few plays that might work on offense next game. 1)I really would like to something like that pump-fake, 180 degree turn and pass to Cooley. It worked pretty well, and I think the Pats run it quite a bit. Only concern for that would be Brunell's knee. 2) HB pass with Portis! He has a 113 QB rating or something. 3)A play-action pass deep on the first possesion of the game for the Skins. Just to keep their D honest and to take a shot. 4)Get Trash, Brown, and maybe even Jacobs involved early with short in routes, etc. to keep the D from swarming Moss. 5) Bc Barber is gonna be on Moss, run a pump and go, because Barber will bit for the interception. 6)The people at XtremeSkins posted a thread about a fake screen pass deep, but the argument agaisnt that is that it will take too long to develop and their not enough time to get it off. Your guys opinion, and any more plays that will be valuable? __________________ Vacancy

01-04-2006, 06:15 PM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,545	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game I want to see Moss with another screen. With Cooley last week it wasn't the same, Cooley has nowhere near enough speed as moss. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

01-04-2006, 06:26 PM	#3
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game Do what the Falcons did in their last Monday Night game with a little wrinkle...fake a sweep with Portis then have Portis toss the ball back to Brunell to throw a TD to Moss. I wouldn't mind seeing two back sets with Portis and Betts either. Just jam run plays down their throat. Run to the weak side, run to the strong side, up the gut, and screen plays here and there. Hell, get fancy and shift the Portis and Betts all game long, to the slot, to the 3 wide out spot, maybe even a little tight end action.

01-04-2006, 06:28 PM	#4
Dirtbag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 142	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game 40 gut, baby

01-04-2006, 06:55 PM	#6
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,760	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game I say run the ball right at Simeon Rice, the guy is 245 pounds soaking wet. Run his ass over. Kim Bokamper comes to mind. Also run right over Chris Hovan. He is also light for a DT. Tha Bucs d-line is built to rush the passer, so lets not play into their strength by passing too much. Use up the clock. Keep our Defense off the field, since they were on the field almost the entire Eagles game. Last edited by Defensewins; 01-04-2006 at 07:13 PM.

01-04-2006, 07:43 PM	#8
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game I have a play for the Bucs. Please run a crossing pattern in the middle of the field with Joey Galloway and anyone else. We will oblige by conveniently not covering Mr Galloway with a Corner but we do reserve the right to pick him up downfield with a certain safety running a full speed with a kill shot on his mind. We will call this the 21 Cross Kill Shot. Please be advised you are allowed to run this as many times as needed for the kill shot to be effective. It should only take one though.

01-04-2006, 08:07 PM	#10
44deisel44 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 260	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game PORTIS PORTIS PORTIS.........hello seahawks. Need some screens in there though. Always good against a quick, sack driven defensive line. __________________ 90% of the game is half mental-John Madden Pure unadulterated uncompromising ecstasy- Jack K.Cooke

01-04-2006, 08:13 PM	#11
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,762	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game I want to see the short pass (under 5 yards, usually used inside the 5 yard line or close to first down marker) to either the right or left involving Cooley or Sellers. I don't think we have run this play enough yet this year. I also don't think the Bucs D will be looking for the Moss screen either, we also haven't run that one enough. I think there is a need to involve Cooley. For some reason he seems to get open alot and the guy has great hands. You can also bet, actually forget the bet, you can guarantee Mr Clinton Portis will get many many touches. Also as in the Eagles game the complimentary Ladell Betts for 8 yards also helps. One more thing, I cant argue with 40 gut. Go O Line, Go Skins!

01-04-2006, 09:28 PM	#12
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game Saw this play in the 2002 Orange Bowl - Florida vs. Maryland. With the Gators down near the Terps 5-yard line or so, there were three wideouts lined up on the left side, and one of them took a step or two back from the line just as the ball was snapped, seemingly positioning himself to catch a WR screen. Grossman (I think he was QB then) faked the throw to that wideout, while one of the others headed straight for the back of the endzone. With the entire defense locked in on the original wideout, getting ready to swarm him, the other WR was wide open in the back of the endzone as the ball was lobbed to him. The result was an easy touchdown. That play, and other misdirection plays work well against aggressive defenses that are quick to converge on the ball carrier.

01-04-2006, 09:49 PM	#13
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game I think that the plays we used last time should work again. If we score thirty points, I don't think we will lose this time. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

01-04-2006, 09:57 PM	#14
PorterHouse No new threads for you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 49 Posts: 230	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game A whole lotsa Portis and a heavy dose Cooley <-----------player of the game Watch what I tell ya Chris Cooley. cut backs for Portis and screens for Cooley

01-04-2006, 10:03 PM	#15
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Play suggestions for Tampa Bay game In his two Redskins games against Tampa, Portis has nearly 300 yards, and that was BEFORE Gibbs' all-out commitment to go smashmouth 5 weeks back. I say go with Sellers as an extra TE and run right at Simeon Rice 'til the cows come home. Nothing kills a team's will like running the ball down their throat.

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