Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!?

scowan · 01-24-2006, 09:21 AM

I am sure with this latest move to bring in Al Saunders that many of you are as quick as me and have wondered as I have been the last few days if we may see Joe Gibbs become just our GM and not our GM/coach in a few years.

With him assuming a more CEO type of position this next year, I think he is becoming more of an on-the-field General Manager, instead of our coach. It is very easy to me to see the progression taking place where either Greg Williams or Saunders will succeed Gibbs in 3 years if not sooner. I beleive Gibbs will stay on, after his contract, and just be our GM. Maybe Vinny will step aside!

j_j__l · 01-24-2006, 09:26 AM

This wouldn't surprise me at all...I think he would love to stay with US like Levy is now doing in Buffalo...but we would have to figure out who our Offensive Cord. will be??? I believe this will be a one year and done for Al....leaving for the RIGHT Head coaching spot after next year.

Schneed10 · 01-24-2006, 09:38 AM

Gregg Williams is definitely being groomed as our next head coach (which thrills me to death because I love the guy). But it's clear Gibbs is trying to structure the team in order to foster continuity. He knows that Bugel, Burns, and Breaux will be leaving when Gibbs retires. That would certainly explain why we have so many cooks in the kitchen right now, because Gibbs is trying to stock the cupboard so that when he leaves, the offensive coaching cupboard isn't left bare.

When you have SO many quality coaches, you're bound to see some of them leave for head coaching jobs. But that's why you have both Blache and Williams. And it's why you have a Bill Musgrave. If you lose one of those top guys, hopefully you have people on hand that can keep steering the ship in the right direction.

I don't mean to say Musgrave would be an automatic replacement for Saunders if he flies the coop. But he has been an offensive coordinator before, he has had some time to learn from Gibbs and absorb the offense, and he would be a logical choice.

Or we could just hire even more coaches!

SmootSmack · 01-24-2006, 09:50 AM

And I think in a couple of years time maybe Hixon and Byner assume larger roles. They could be elevated to coordinator status.

cpayne5 · 01-24-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by j_j__l

This wouldn't surprise me at all...I think he would love to stay with US like Levy is now doing in Buffalo...but we would have to figure out who our Offensive Cord. will be??? I believe this will be a one year and done for Al....leaving for the RIGHT Head coaching spot after next year.

According to Saunders, this is his last move. We'll see, though.

skns03 · 01-24-2006, 09:57 AM

it all depends if we keep wining on the field then no but by some wat we start losing then i would consider it

firstdown · 01-24-2006, 10:00 AM

So now that Gibbs won't be calling plays what will he be doing on the side lines during the games? Making calls like when to go for it on forth down, when to punt verse kick etc..?

Beemnseven · 01-24-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

So now that Gibbs won't be calling plays what will he be doing on the side lines during the games? Making calls like when to go for it on forth down, when to punt verse kick etc..?

There are many coaches, most of them in fact, that serve as the head coach, and leave coordinator duties to someone else. Jimmy Johnson did the same thing in Dallas -- Dave Wannstedt with defense, and Norv with offense. I think this is going to ease the burden on Gibbs, allow him to assume more 'motivational' duties on the sidelines, and he'll make the call on fourth down, punting, and so on.

scowan · 01-24-2006, 10:23 AM

I think Gibbs will be better able to judge the overall flow of the game better with the Playcalling duties removed from his mind on game day. He will be free to concentrate on the big picture and not the details of playcalling. I think maybe he has realized that he got too conservative in the past and played not to lose. The Chiefs, however, have always just kept pouring it on. We will have a fun team to watch next year, even if they don't improve!

Hog1 · 01-24-2006, 03:08 PM

The shape and structure of the organization Gibbs is building is interesting. It looks like its almost Co-coach's with GW, and Al Sharing the head coach duties. Joe is GM. Different it may be, but you can't help but get the feeling the power they are bringing to bear will create a Redskins juggernaut!

skinsguy · 01-24-2006, 03:33 PM

I like the direction this is heading. I was convinced, despite our struggles on offense, that we didn't need an offensive coordinator. However, I feel really good about having a guy like Saunders come into the fold. Gibbs is doing what he does best - organization! I haven't had this much confidence in this team in years!

scowan · 01-24-2006, 03:36 PM

The Skins are definitley building a more different coaching organization than anything I have ever seen in my 25+ years of following the NFL. Most assistant coaches move thru the ranks and improve on their skills in order to someday become a head coach and have their own organization. What Gibbs and Snyder are doing with the money they are paying these guys is basically giving Saunders and Williams headcoaching money to be assistants. And Synder is paying the people under Saunders and Williams so much more money than they could make as assistants somewhere else. It will truely be a powerful coaching staff in terms of knowledge and experience. We will only have to wait and see if it will translate into a further push into the playoffs. The players still have to make plays and execute. But they should easily be the most prepared team in the NFL each week next year. If it works, it could really change the way owners do their hiring, if they want to keep up with the Deep Pocket Owners like Synder.

JoeRedskin · 01-24-2006, 03:58 PM

Next year, GW and Al will be re -titled Deputy/Assistant/Associate Head Coaches. We will have 14 Assistant Head Coaches - one for each position and two to carry the Deputy/Assistant/Associate Head Coaches water; 17 Offensive/Defensive Coordinators (INSERT POSITION OF SPECIALIZATION); 23 Quality Control Coaches (for each side Offense & Defense); and Danny Smith.

70Chip · 01-24-2006, 04:45 PM

I think they should keep Gibbs on as Team President in Perpetuity. Just Like Bob Jones at Augusta National.

Gibbs is God · 01-24-2006, 05:07 PM

everything is perfect rite now. gibbs contract goes 3 more seasons, and gregg williams just signed a 3 year contract which brings him rite 2 the end of gibbs coaching days. i think it wud be fitting if gregg williams then stepped in as head coach (b/c he defently deserves it either in washington or for another organization). by that point, if gibbs isnt to preoccupied with nascar, he wud b a perfect choice for GM.

01-24-2006, 09:21 AM	#1
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 56 Posts: 1,559	Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? I am sure with this latest move to bring in Al Saunders that many of you are as quick as me and have wondered as I have been the last few days if we may see Joe Gibbs become just our GM and not our GM/coach in a few years. With him assuming a more CEO type of position this next year, I think he is becoming more of an on-the-field General Manager, instead of our coach. It is very easy to me to see the progression taking place where either Greg Williams or Saunders will succeed Gibbs in 3 years if not sooner. I beleive Gibbs will stay on, after his contract, and just be our GM. Maybe Vinny will step aside!

01-24-2006, 09:26 AM	#2
j_j__l Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 72	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? This wouldn't surprise me at all...I think he would love to stay with US like Levy is now doing in Buffalo...but we would have to figure out who our Offensive Cord. will be??? I believe this will be a one year and done for Al....leaving for the RIGHT Head coaching spot after next year. __________________ World wide traveling SKINS FAN

01-24-2006, 09:38 AM	#3
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? Gregg Williams is definitely being groomed as our next head coach (which thrills me to death because I love the guy). But it's clear Gibbs is trying to structure the team in order to foster continuity. He knows that Bugel, Burns, and Breaux will be leaving when Gibbs retires. That would certainly explain why we have so many cooks in the kitchen right now, because Gibbs is trying to stock the cupboard so that when he leaves, the offensive coaching cupboard isn't left bare. When you have SO many quality coaches, you're bound to see some of them leave for head coaching jobs. But that's why you have both Blache and Williams. And it's why you have a Bill Musgrave. If you lose one of those top guys, hopefully you have people on hand that can keep steering the ship in the right direction. I don't mean to say Musgrave would be an automatic replacement for Saunders if he flies the coop. But he has been an offensive coordinator before, he has had some time to learn from Gibbs and absorb the offense, and he would be a logical choice. Or we could just hire even more coaches!

01-24-2006, 09:50 AM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? And I think in a couple of years time maybe Hixon and Byner assume larger roles. They could be elevated to coordinator status. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-24-2006, 09:57 AM	#6
skns03 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glen Allen Va Posts: 35	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? it all depends if we keep wining on the field then no but by some wat we start losing then i would consider it

01-24-2006, 10:00 AM	#7
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? So now that Gibbs won't be calling plays what will he be doing on the side lines during the games? Making calls like when to go for it on forth down, when to punt verse kick etc..?

01-24-2006, 10:23 AM	#9
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 56 Posts: 1,559	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? I think Gibbs will be better able to judge the overall flow of the game better with the Playcalling duties removed from his mind on game day. He will be free to concentrate on the big picture and not the details of playcalling. I think maybe he has realized that he got too conservative in the past and played not to lose. The Chiefs, however, have always just kept pouring it on. We will have a fun team to watch next year, even if they don't improve!

01-24-2006, 03:08 PM	#10
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? The shape and structure of the organization Gibbs is building is interesting. It looks like its almost Co-coach's with GW, and Al Sharing the head coach duties. Joe is GM. Different it may be, but you can't help but get the feeling the power they are bringing to bear will create a Redskins juggernaut! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-24-2006, 03:33 PM	#11
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? I like the direction this is heading. I was convinced, despite our struggles on offense, that we didn't need an offensive coordinator. However, I feel really good about having a guy like Saunders come into the fold. Gibbs is doing what he does best - organization! I haven't had this much confidence in this team in years! __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

01-24-2006, 03:36 PM	#12
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 56 Posts: 1,559	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? The Skins are definitley building a more different coaching organization than anything I have ever seen in my 25+ years of following the NFL. Most assistant coaches move thru the ranks and improve on their skills in order to someday become a head coach and have their own organization. What Gibbs and Snyder are doing with the money they are paying these guys is basically giving Saunders and Williams headcoaching money to be assistants. And Synder is paying the people under Saunders and Williams so much more money than they could make as assistants somewhere else. It will truely be a powerful coaching staff in terms of knowledge and experience. We will only have to wait and see if it will translate into a further push into the playoffs. The players still have to make plays and execute. But they should easily be the most prepared team in the NFL each week next year. If it works, it could really change the way owners do their hiring, if they want to keep up with the Deep Pocket Owners like Synder.

01-24-2006, 03:58 PM	#13
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? Next year, GW and Al will be re -titled Deputy/Assistant/Associate Head Coaches. We will have 14 Assistant Head Coaches - one for each position and two to carry the Deputy/Assistant/Associate Head Coaches water; 17 Offensive/Defensive Coordinators (INSERT POSITION OF SPECIALIZATION); 23 Quality Control Coaches (for each side Offense & Defense); and Danny Smith.

01-24-2006, 04:45 PM	#14
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? I think they should keep Gibbs on as Team President in Perpetuity. Just Like Bob Jones at Augusta National. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-24-2006, 05:07 PM	#15
Gibbs is God Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Richmond,VA Age: 33 Posts: 20	Re: Gibbs as the GM in 3 years?!? everything is perfect rite now. gibbs contract goes 3 more seasons, and gregg williams just signed a 3 year contract which brings him rite 2 the end of gibbs coaching days. i think it wud be fitting if gregg williams then stepped in as head coach (b/c he defently deserves it either in washington or for another organization). by that point, if gibbs isnt to preoccupied with nascar, he wud b a perfect choice for GM.

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