'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out

hooskins · 11-10-2006, 01:19 PM

Lurking around a cowboys forum, I came upon a link to this blog, and this article comparing the situation of both QBs. Surprisingly this Boys fan seems to understand why Campbell didnt come in, better than most Skins fans

Yakuza Rich Dallas Cowboys Blog: Romo vs. Campbell – Different Circumstances Make for Different Choices

His other stuff is pretty good too, doesnt seem to be bias.

RedskinRat · 11-10-2006, 01:24 PM

This is like asking the guy on the corner with the cup and the sign how to run a Fortune 500 business.

He's a Cow-Whores fan.

MTK · 11-10-2006, 01:54 PM

Just from reading the title he has a point, different circumstances make for different choices.

RedskinRat · 11-10-2006, 02:00 PM

When I rule the World (not long now) all Cow-Whores fans will be kept on a gimp leash and only allowed out on game-day.

hooskins · 11-10-2006, 02:53 PM

Exactly Matty, for those of you that are too lazy or ignorant to read, the article basically says that Romo has been with the team for 4 years. He already knows the system.

Campbell is with the 6th different offense since his first year in Auburn. Gibbs wants him to sit an extra year, bc his learning curve is higher.

Yeah Campbell was first rounder, but at the same time, 4 years of being in one system has huge benefits. If we put in Campbell in a must win situation, it might shatter his confidence, the confidence of the fans, and the city. That is why you keep him aside, until the season is pretty much over.

RR, the whole point of me posting this blog, was that this fan(whatever you may think about him) has it right. It is almost sad that most fans here dont realize that, but a Cowboys fan does....

RedskinRat · 11-10-2006, 02:56 PM

So Campbell has been in a different scheme in ever year he's played Football since college.

He's a high draft pick, obviously not stupid, has the physical skills we need, has the support of the team and fans.

I think it's the right choice long-term.

I was kidding about the boys fan. Should I have gone with the purple (J/K) font?

hooskins · 11-10-2006, 02:59 PM

Yeah, the purple would have done it.

dmek25 · 11-10-2006, 03:09 PM

very good read, especially considering where it came from. everyone on this board that wants Campbell now should probably read this. with that being said, i still want to see Campbell if the skins get eliminated early

hooskins · 11-10-2006, 03:15 PM

I agree with you too Dmek, but it is crucial that Campbell comes in after the season is officially lost(yeah I am changing my opinion from what I had in the previous weeks). That way he comes into a no pressure situation, which I feel would be the best for his development.

saden1 · 11-10-2006, 04:29 PM

He speaks the truth even if he is a Cowboys fan.

offiss · 11-10-2006, 05:15 PM

I am curious what does 4 different offensive schemes in college have to do with an offensive scheme in the NFL?

Regardless if you played in the same system for 4 years in college is meaningless if you then go to the NFL and have to learn an entirely different scheme, the same scheme in college may have allowed for more success in college, but it's back to square one once you hit the NFL.

Now as far as a new offensive scheme in the NFL, doesn't every QB have to learn one at one time or another? How about Brunell hasen't he had to learn a whole new offensive scheme?

Now here's the difference between Romo and Campbell, Parcells had to get a QB and fast when he realized his starter was a crack head, so in comes Bledsoe and a quick fix, meanwhile dallas uses it's top picks to build thier team while grooming an undrafted QB which cost them nothing, [much easier to sit on a player under those circumstances] the word has been Parcells wanted to switch over to Romo much sooner but was afraid he may lose Bledsoe as a backup [retirement] and would be up a creek without a paddle if Romo struggled or was injured, but Bledsoe was basically doing the same things as Brunell only Bledsoe would take more hit's. What Mr. Cowboy fails to point out as well is the cowboy's were never committed to Romo early on, they were committed to Drew Henson in whom they gave up an early rd draft pick to get, they also tried to get him onto the field but as I predicted he was an utter failure, which left Dallas in search of a future QB, that is when they turned to Romo and started to give him some serious attention. We do not have a future backup with starter potential unless of coarse it's Campbell, which is not good news for us.

There is nothing wrong taking your time with a QB if he's a late round pick or a walk on, but to give up as much as we gave up for Campbell makes it much more difficult, those extra picks could have been used on another corner, perhaps line depth or starter, that pick has the potential to really set us back if it doesn't pan out, not only for what we gave up, but for the time wasted on a player who just doesn't have it. Theoreticly it could be 4 to 5 years before we really know about Campbell, considering his contract will be up around then, as well as the fact that we went about building a win now team the pick doesn't make sense. Further more I don't care how long he sits on the bench and "learns" I personally believe that almost alway's a QB has to spend 3 full years starting to really become a legitamate QB in the NFL, yes it has happened sooner but those are the exceptions. Meanwhile we continue to struggle with an over the hill QB, I do believe it would be much more beneficial to struggle with the future for future progress, than wrestle with the past for future failure!

11-10-2006, 01:19 PM	#1
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out Lurking around a cowboys forum, I came upon a link to this blog, and this article comparing the situation of both QBs. Surprisingly this Boys fan seems to understand why Campbell didnt come in, better than most Skins fans Yakuza Rich Dallas Cowboys Blog: Romo vs. Campbell – Different Circumstances Make for Different Choices His other stuff is pretty good too, doesnt seem to be bias. __________________ Vacancy

11-10-2006, 01:24 PM	#2
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out This is like asking the guy on the corner with the cup and the sign how to run a Fortune 500 business. He's a Cow-Whores fan.

11-10-2006, 01:54 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out Just from reading the title he has a point, different circumstances make for different choices. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-10-2006, 02:00 PM	#4
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out When I rule the World (not long now) all Cow-Whores fans will be kept on a gimp leash and only allowed out on game-day.

11-10-2006, 02:53 PM	#5
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out Exactly Matty, for those of you that are too lazy or ignorant to read, the article basically says that Romo has been with the team for 4 years. He already knows the system. Campbell is with the 6th different offense since his first year in Auburn. Gibbs wants him to sit an extra year, bc his learning curve is higher. Yeah Campbell was first rounder, but at the same time, 4 years of being in one system has huge benefits. If we put in Campbell in a must win situation, it might shatter his confidence, the confidence of the fans, and the city. That is why you keep him aside, until the season is pretty much over. RR, the whole point of me posting this blog, was that this fan(whatever you may think about him) has it right. It is almost sad that most fans here dont realize that, but a Cowboys fan does.... __________________ Vacancy

11-10-2006, 02:56 PM	#6
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out So Campbell has been in a different scheme in ever year he's played Football since college. He's a high draft pick, obviously not stupid, has the physical skills we need, has the support of the team and fans. I think it's the right choice long-term. I was kidding about the boys fan. Should I have gone with the purple (J/K) font?

11-10-2006, 02:59 PM	#7
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out Yeah, the purple would have done it. __________________ Vacancy

11-10-2006, 03:09 PM	#8
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out very good read, especially considering where it came from. everyone on this board that wants Campbell now should probably read this. with that being said, i still want to see Campbell if the skins get eliminated early __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-10-2006, 03:15 PM	#9
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out I agree with you too Dmek, but it is crucial that Campbell comes in after the season is officially lost(yeah I am changing my opinion from what I had in the previous weeks). That way he comes into a no pressure situation, which I feel would be the best for his development. __________________ Vacancy

11-10-2006, 04:29 PM	#10
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out He speaks the truth even if he is a Cowboys fan. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

11-10-2006, 05:15 PM	#11
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: 'Boys fan take on why Romo is in, but Campbell is out I am curious what does 4 different offensive schemes in college have to do with an offensive scheme in the NFL? Regardless if you played in the same system for 4 years in college is meaningless if you then go to the NFL and have to learn an entirely different scheme, the same scheme in college may have allowed for more success in college, but it's back to square one once you hit the NFL. Now as far as a new offensive scheme in the NFL, doesn't every QB have to learn one at one time or another? How about Brunell hasen't he had to learn a whole new offensive scheme? Now here's the difference between Romo and Campbell, Parcells had to get a QB and fast when he realized his starter was a crack head, so in comes Bledsoe and a quick fix, meanwhile dallas uses it's top picks to build thier team while grooming an undrafted QB which cost them nothing, [much easier to sit on a player under those circumstances] the word has been Parcells wanted to switch over to Romo much sooner but was afraid he may lose Bledsoe as a backup [retirement] and would be up a creek without a paddle if Romo struggled or was injured, but Bledsoe was basically doing the same things as Brunell only Bledsoe would take more hit's. What Mr. Cowboy fails to point out as well is the cowboy's were never committed to Romo early on, they were committed to Drew Henson in whom they gave up an early rd draft pick to get, they also tried to get him onto the field but as I predicted he was an utter failure, which left Dallas in search of a future QB, that is when they turned to Romo and started to give him some serious attention. We do not have a future backup with starter potential unless of coarse it's Campbell, which is not good news for us. There is nothing wrong taking your time with a QB if he's a late round pick or a walk on, but to give up as much as we gave up for Campbell makes it much more difficult, those extra picks could have been used on another corner, perhaps line depth or starter, that pick has the potential to really set us back if it doesn't pan out, not only for what we gave up, but for the time wasted on a player who just doesn't have it. Theoreticly it could be 4 to 5 years before we really know about Campbell, considering his contract will be up around then, as well as the fact that we went about building a win now team the pick doesn't make sense. Further more I don't care how long he sits on the bench and "learns" I personally believe that almost alway's a QB has to spend 3 full years starting to really become a legitamate QB in the NFL, yes it has happened sooner but those are the exceptions. Meanwhile we continue to struggle with an over the hill QB, I do believe it would be much more beneficial to struggle with the future for future progress, than wrestle with the past for future failure!

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