Jansen's Future in Doubt?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

The Washington Post's Jason LaCanfora wrote and interesting story on the Redskins Insider. He implies, in passing, that Jansen's future in D.C. could be in doubt. I would hate to lose Jansen if he is not willing to restructure AND Dockery if negotiations do not progress with his re-signing.

Although the Washington Post has been known to make a few "reporting errors," Jason LaCanfora has a good reputation. I pray his report is more speculative than fact-based, hence it's posting on the web in lieu of printing in the paper.

The Redskins have begun contacting agents for several key players hoping to create additional space under the 2007 salary cap, and re-worked receiver James Thrash's deal last week, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Thrash, 32, who has been a special-teams stalwart and solid receiver in limited duty, was set to make $1.3 million in base salary in 2007, but converted some of that money into a bonus, trimming about $380,000 of Washington's cap. He also received a two-year extension as part of the deal, the sources said.

The Redskins need to compel several more players to lower their cap figures in order to make space to sign free agents as they seek to improve a 5-11 team. They have approached several key veterans already, sources said, and will likely speak with agents for quarterback Mark Brunell, cornerback Shawn Springs, tackle Jon Jansen, and defensive linemen Renaldo Wynn and Phillip Daniels, among others.

Teams must be under the cap, estimated at $109 million, in early March, which is when clubs are eligible to begin signing free agents from other teams.

Folks, keep an eye on the Springs and Brunell and Jansen situations. All three could get plenty interesting, and, by interesting I mean sticky.

[12thMan]

I think they would cut Brunell before they let Jansen go. I'm not too worried about them letting, what, the longest tenured Skin go.

He'll be around, count on that.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

For some reason I feel like we're going to be into "sky is falling" mode from a few key losses this offseason and come into the season and surprise everyone. Just like last year we were considering ourselves Super Bowl contenders, the opposite happens this year.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think they would cut Brunell before they let Jansen go. I'm not too worried about them letting, what, the longest tenured Skin go.

He'll be around, count on that.

Not if they think he hasnt recovered from his achilles injury, He clearly hasnt been the same since.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think they would cut Brunell before they let Jansen go. I'm not too worried about them letting, what, the longest tenured Skin go.

He'll be around, count on that.

No doubt they would get rid of Brunell before Jansen. Schneed - what type of cap savings would we get from cutting Brunell?

[Schneed10]

With Brunell, the answer is simple. If he doesn't take a paycut, then cut his ass. I don't see what's so sticky about that one. He's simply not worth keeping. Collins could do just as good as Brunell in a backup role at this point.

On Jansen, I'm not understanding what could get sticky there, either. Unless the Skins are trying to extend him in the process of restructuring; in that case maybe he'd ask for more money? I dunno.

And with Springs, I'm thoroughly confused as well.

From what I know about the cap, I wouldn't anticipate any snafus with a basic restructure. Makes me wonder what La Canfora knows about the 'Skins intentions. If the Skins are hesitant to go with a basic restructure, that would show that they're beginning to think about the long term. Or maybe La Canfora is just misinformed.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by jamf

Not if they think he hasnt recovered from his achilles injury, He clearly hasnt been the same since.

I tell what, they would much rather keep a 31 yr. old, durable tackle coming off an injury almost two years ago, than a 37 year QB coming off major shoulder surgery, who will undoubtedly ride the pine this year.

Dontcha think?

[dmek25]

I'm all for line continuity, but Jansen's play last season was below average. he needs to pick it up if the skins are to be successful

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Bill B

No doubt they would get rid of Brunell before Jansen. Schneed - what type of cap savings would we get from cutting Brunell?

Cut him as a prior-to-June 1st, save $2.1 million in 2007, with no dead-cap carrying over to 2008.

Cut him as a post-June 1st, save $5.1 million in 2007, with a dead-cap hit of $3.1 million in 2008.

[SmootSmack]

Imagine you're Jon Jansen for a second though. You've been in the league a long time, you're body has been beat down and broken in places you didn't even know you had. You've got a blossoming career post-football in television.

So now the Redskins approach you for a restructure. You could accept. Or you could also think "Wait, do I really need to be playing football anyway? And if I do, as much as I may love this team. At some point it's gotta be about me. And I want a ring, and how long do I have to wait here to get one?

Bottom line, it takes two to tango...and agree to restructured contracts

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I would be surprised, but not shocked, if we let Jansen go. Anyone have his numbers?

[Schneed10]

Cutting Jansen as a prior-to-June 1st, save $2.65 million in 2007, with no dead-cap carrying over to 2008.

Cutting Jansen as a post-June 1st, save $4.2 million in 2007, with a $1.6 million dead-cap hit in 2008.

If they're asking him to simply restructure, he's not going to object because he'd still get what his contract says is coming to him. If they're asking him to extend the contract beyond 2008 (because that's the last year as it stands now), then maybe they're haggling.

Or, he'd certainly object if they're asking him to take a paycut. The question for him would be where can I make more money, on the open market or here in Washington with my salary reduced? He's scheduled to make $4.25 million in base salary in 2007. That could be what's going on here: the Skins might be trying to leverage him into taking a pay cut. The Skins might be saying dude, you won't get a better deal than what your current contract says. In fact, accept a $1 million pay cut, because you still won't get a better deal than that. Then he'd have a decision to make.

ALL SPECULATION. It very well could be that La Canfora has it all wrong, and that Jansen is going to just do a simple restructure, and there'll be no problem. Who knows. But he's definitely got me intrigued. Everyone keep their radar up on this issue, if you hear anything please post it, because I'd love to try to interpret what's going on.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Cut him as a prior-to-June 1st, save $2.1 million in 2007, with no dead-cap carrying over to 2008.

Cut him as a post-June 1st, save $5.1 million in 2007, with a dead-cap hit of $3.1 million in 2008.

Thanks Schneed.

I actually though Jansen played pretty good and thought we were set on the offensive line. I think both sides need eachother. If the Redskins were to get rid of Jansen that would be a pretty big hit over 2007/2008, than we would have to dish out a big chunk of change to get a replacement -so to the Skins that would be a bad thing. Plus the Skins would have to get a new guy to learn all the schemes/plays - so from the Redskins perspective I think they would want to keep him.

From Jansens perspective I think he sees himself as worth more to the Skins than another team because the Skins want to keep continuity on the line and go into next season not having to wait a half a season(guess here) or more for the line to get used to eachother. Also, as many have pointed out other teams are probably a little scared to dish out big bucks on a player with an previous achilles injury and if Jansens agent is any good he would probably tell Jansen the same thing - that it would be in his best interest to work out a new contract.

Finally wouldn't staying in the same system with the same lineman be to Jansens benefit? If he went to a new team wouldn't he have to relearn that teams scheme and his fellow linemens tendencies? Plus would Jansen want to displace his family when he probably is on his last contract and has 3-5 years left?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I would be surprised, but not shocked, if we let Jansen go. Anyone have his numbers?

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[GTripp0012]

I have a theroy that basically says that an offensive line can replace one guy a year with little to no dropoff. I'm not too worried about either Dockery or Jansen right now, but the front office has to make sure that we don't lose both of them. Thats basically like starting from scratch.