The Dan Snyder You Don't Know

SmootSmack · 02-07-2007, 12:18 AM

(from this past fall)

Joe Gibbs first met Dan Snyder at a group home for teenagers in early 1999. Gibbs, the legendary Redskins coach, was out of football and into racing cars on the NASCAR circuit; he was in Washington to raise funds for Youth for Tomorrow, a residential facility in Manassas for at-risk teens that he had founded in 1986.

The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com)

mooby · 02-07-2007, 01:09 AM

That was a great article. I really believe that Snyder has taken a step back in terms of handling football operations and letting Joe Gibbs do his thing. If he keeps maturing as a owner we could see some real progess on the field in the next few years.

dmek25 · 02-07-2007, 05:01 AM

i often wonder why so many people hate dan snyder. ill take him over a cheap ass owner like jeff lurie, any day

Daseal · 02-07-2007, 07:19 AM

Quote:

That was a great article. I really believe that Snyder has taken a step back in terms of handling football operations and letting Joe Gibbs do his thing. If he keeps maturing as a owner we could see some real progess on the field in the next few years.

While I agree that Dan Snyder has matured since his initial Jeff George, Deion, Smith, etc spending spree when he first came in, giving any coach GM and coaching responsibilities is a bad move.

Hog1 · 02-07-2007, 07:20 AM

I'm with you D. He has definately been to involved in the past. Made some bad personel decisions. However, he knows NO bounds to get the players he thinks can help the skins. He is financially masterful in running the Skins, and is a DIE hard Skins fan.

Daseal · 02-07-2007, 09:25 AM

Exactly, I wouldn't trade Snyder for any owner in the league. He does a great job massaging the cap, but I question some of the front office stuff. I think we've seen enough of Vinny/Joe Gibbs in player acquisition. I think we've had enough years struggling, we need to find a nice mix of FA guys (mainly Washington types, guys who aren't high profile, bring in roleplayers [we got lucky with Washington, he's a pimp].

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-07-2007, 09:38 AM

People dislike Snyder because of the Snyder-orchestrated 2000 spending spree, rumors that he has orchestrated every other spending spree since 2000, and because rumors (some substantiated by members of the press) abound that the guys is a total jerk in person and is incredibly cocky.

FRPLG · 02-07-2007, 10:49 AM

People dislike Snyder for many reasons. This article did a great job showing them. He has presided over what is at best at medicore team(the biggest crime of all), the Post is an enemy and seems to relish it, and he doesn't seem to really care what anyone thinks of him. I have thought for a while that he gets a bad rap and this article just brings that into focus. No one is perfect but Snyder gets railed on for it while everyone else gets to live their life.not being perfect.

I think in the end winning is going to be the only way he can turn the tide now.

dblanch66 · 02-07-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

People dislike Snyder because of the Snyder-orchestrated 2000 spending spree, rumors that he has orchestrated every other spending spree since 2000, and because rumors (some substantiated by members of the press) abound that the guys is a total jerk in person and is incredibly cocky.

"Members of the press"...yeah...they are a bunch of really really nice people. jeesh.
Dallas Sucks.

Monkeydad · 02-07-2007, 11:42 AM

That was a GREAT article. Knowing him a little more personally through that article really makes me respect him a little more. There are so many misconceptions about him. I guess with anyone who doesn't engage in constant rebuttals with the scum in the media will end up being painted in a certain way.

Honestly, I'm glad he stopped wasting time with them.

Yes, he's made some mistakes...any of us would've if we woke up owner of the Redskins without any experience, but he's really turned into an outstanding owner with the help of Joe Gibbs.

This season was a disaster, but we can't really blame the ownership. Injuries to Portis, Moss, Springs, etc. and our defense that was patched together with a lot of backups and special-teamers was just too much to overcome. With Jason Campbell and better luck than this season (couldn't get any worse), we'll be winners again and for a long time.

70Chip · 02-07-2007, 11:46 AM

I'm no fan of Snyder, but if I have to choose between the Redskins and the Washington Post, I'm taking the Redskins. **** Donald Graham and **** his family.

The most interesting line in the story is this one:

"...When the Snyders traveled to be with the surrogate who gave birth to their son, the Rodgerses went along. ..."

I had to read that one twice before the meaning set in. The rich lead different lives than you or I.

Monkeydad · 02-07-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

I'm no fan of Snyder, but if I have to choose between the Redskins and the Washington Post, I'm taking the Redskins. **** Donald Graham and **** his family.

The most interesting line in the story is this one:

"...When the Snyders traveled to be with the surrogate who gave birth to their son, the Rodgerses went along. ..."

I had to read that one twice before the meaning set in. The rich lead different lives than you or I.

Not really...that's a situation that any of us could face, not being able to conceive a child (from either spouse). This isn't an uncommon procedure. With the mess that it entails to adopt a child, it's not a bad route and still gets the father's genes into the child. Everyday people like us often spend more money than they have trying to conceive a child. Snyder just had the cash on hand to do the same thing.

skinsfan69 · 02-07-2007, 01:49 PM

Nice article but I'M TIRED OF LOSING. We just went 5-11 and in 04 we went 6-10! with one of the highest payrolls in the NFL. Something is really wrong here! Sounds like Snyder has thin skin. He's hurt because the media rips him. Well he deserves all the crap that he gets, and if he can't handle it then sell the team. I'm personally tired of Snyder and the way he runs things. It's getting old. He needs to put his foot down and tell Gibbs and Vinny the FA way is not working and bring in the best GM money can buy. If Gibbs doesn't like it then retire. Mike Holgrem gave up his GM power so why can't Gibbs???? And he needs to tell his butt buddy Vinny to get lost. WTF has Vinnny done besides kiss Danny's ass? I heard on NFL Network that other respected personel men around the NFL think Vinny is just a joke. But I bet on March 1st, salary cap space will be cleared, Redskins One will have a full tank of gas and off we go.................

Daseal · 02-07-2007, 03:20 PM

Skinsfan, I'd love to see Snyder put his foot down and tell Gibbs after going 6-10 he needs to spend a bit more time working on coaching and less on bringing in free agents. Unfortunately, like most of this board Snyder sees Gibbs as some sort of golden god that can do no harm. When fact of the matter is Gibbs took us to the playoffs once and that was because we have a mauling offensive line, a beast named Portis, and a great defense.

MTK · 02-07-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

When fact of the matter is Gibbs took us to the playoffs once and that was because we have a mauling offensive line, a beast named Portis, and a great defense.

So did Gibbs have nothing to do with that success?

02-07-2007, 12:18 AM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	The Dan Snyder You Don't Know (from this past fall) Joe Gibbs first met Dan Snyder at a group home for teenagers in early 1999. Gibbs, the legendary Redskins coach, was out of football and into racing cars on the NASCAR circuit; he was in Washington to raise funds for Youth for Tomorrow, a residential facility in Manassas for at-risk teens that he had founded in 1986. The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-07-2007, 01:09 AM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know That was a great article. I really believe that Snyder has taken a step back in terms of handling football operations and letting Joe Gibbs do his thing. If he keeps maturing as a owner we could see some real progess on the field in the next few years.

02-07-2007, 05:01 AM	#3
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know i often wonder why so many people hate dan snyder. ill take him over a cheap ass owner like jeff lurie, any day __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-07-2007, 07:20 AM	#5
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know I'm with you D. He has definately been to involved in the past. Made some bad personel decisions. However, he knows NO bounds to get the players he thinks can help the skins. He is financially masterful in running the Skins, and is a DIE hard Skins fan. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

02-07-2007, 09:25 AM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know Exactly, I wouldn't trade Snyder for any owner in the league. He does a great job massaging the cap, but I question some of the front office stuff. I think we've seen enough of Vinny/Joe Gibbs in player acquisition. I think we've had enough years struggling, we need to find a nice mix of FA guys (mainly Washington types, guys who aren't high profile, bring in roleplayers [we got lucky with Washington, he's a pimp]. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

02-07-2007, 09:38 AM	#7
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know People dislike Snyder because of the Snyder-orchestrated 2000 spending spree, rumors that he has orchestrated every other spending spree since 2000, and because rumors (some substantiated by members of the press) abound that the guys is a total jerk in person and is incredibly cocky.

02-07-2007, 10:49 AM	#8
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know People dislike Snyder for many reasons. This article did a great job showing them. He has presided over what is at best at medicore team(the biggest crime of all), the Post is an enemy and seems to relish it, and he doesn't seem to really care what anyone thinks of him. I have thought for a while that he gets a bad rap and this article just brings that into focus. No one is perfect but Snyder gets railed on for it while everyone else gets to live their life.not being perfect. I think in the end winning is going to be the only way he can turn the tide now.

02-07-2007, 11:42 AM	#10
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know That was a GREAT article. Knowing him a little more personally through that article really makes me respect him a little more. There are so many misconceptions about him. I guess with anyone who doesn't engage in constant rebuttals with the scum in the media will end up being painted in a certain way. Honestly, I'm glad he stopped wasting time with them. Yes, he's made some mistakes...any of us would've if we woke up owner of the Redskins without any experience, but he's really turned into an outstanding owner with the help of Joe Gibbs. This season was a disaster, but we can't really blame the ownership. Injuries to Portis, Moss, Springs, etc. and our defense that was patched together with a lot of backups and special-teamers was just too much to overcome. With Jason Campbell and better luck than this season (couldn't get any worse), we'll be winners again and for a long time.

02-07-2007, 11:46 AM	#11
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know I'm no fan of Snyder, but if I have to choose between the Redskins and the Washington Post, I'm taking the Redskins. ** Donald Graham and ** his family. The most interesting line in the story is this one: "...When the Snyders traveled to be with the surrogate who gave birth to their son, the Rodgerses went along. ..." I had to read that one twice before the meaning set in. The rich lead different lives than you or I. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

02-07-2007, 01:49 PM	#13
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know Nice article but I'M TIRED OF LOSING. We just went 5-11 and in 04 we went 6-10! with one of the highest payrolls in the NFL. Something is really wrong here! Sounds like Snyder has thin skin. He's hurt because the media rips him. Well he deserves all the crap that he gets, and if he can't handle it then sell the team. I'm personally tired of Snyder and the way he runs things. It's getting old. He needs to put his foot down and tell Gibbs and Vinny the FA way is not working and bring in the best GM money can buy. If Gibbs doesn't like it then retire. Mike Holgrem gave up his GM power so why can't Gibbs???? And he needs to tell his butt buddy Vinny to get lost. WTF has Vinnny done besides kiss Danny's ass? I heard on NFL Network that other respected personel men around the NFL think Vinny is just a joke. But I bet on March 1st, salary cap space will be cleared, Redskins One will have a full tank of gas and off we go.................

02-07-2007, 03:20 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: The Dan Snyder You Don't Know Skinsfan, I'd love to see Snyder put his foot down and tell Gibbs after going 6-10 he needs to spend a bit more time working on coaching and less on bringing in free agents. Unfortunately, like most of this board Snyder sees Gibbs as some sort of golden god that can do no harm. When fact of the matter is Gibbs took us to the playoffs once and that was because we have a mauling offensive line, a beast named Portis, and a great defense. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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