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Bergman14 · 08-04-2004, 08:20 PM

Here is Pasquerelli's take on the redskins, it is harsh but may present a valid point:

Worst Case
Last spring, when Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder was in the midst of his annual free-agency spending spree, he announced to anyone naive enough to listen that the team's roster was set for the next three seasons.

Snyder
His rationale was that, from a competitive and salary-cap perspective, he could not afford to tear down his team so quickly, and to rebuild again.

A year later, though, Snyder has basically done just what he promised not to do. And as was the case in 2003, he is telling people that he has created a three-year window for the roster as currently configured. And therein, folks, lies the Redskins' worst-case scenario for the 2004 campaign.

Snyder is an instant-coffee kind of guy. For him, long-term planning pretty much consists of what might transpire during the next commercial break. And so, if you are a 'Skins fan, you're living in mortal fear that the owner too impatient to allow for development will deconstruct the product again.

Certainly it is the prerogative of any owner to run the team in the manner he sees fit. Given what the Redskins cost Snyder to buy, and the money he keeps sinking into his team, he has earned that right even more so than many of his NFL fraternity brothers. But at some juncture, you've got to provide time for the seeds of progress to take root, and that is a lesson totally foreign to Snyder's psyche.

Best Case
The best-case scenario is that coach Joe Gibbs, returning after an 11-season hiatus from the league, either wins quickly or convinces his boss that success isn't far off. What the club most needs is for Gibbs to restore a semblance of order, dignity and professionalism, and he seems well on the way to accomplishing some of those pursuits.

The Redskins run their camp as if it is Stalag Snyder, with more security than you might expect to encounter at some government facility, but there is no denying that the team is better run than at any time in the failed Steve Spurrier experiment.

Washington fans will disagree, and adamantly, we're sure, with the best-case bottom line. But in the ever-competitive NFC East, garnering a playoff spot will be difficult, even for Gibbs. Progress would be an 8-8 or 9-7 record, and Gibbs convincing the owner that such an accomplishment should be viewed as a springboard for future success and not just the latest excuse to start over again.

Riggo44 · 08-04-2004, 09:51 PM

If SS had come back.(Thank God he didn't!) The roster might not have changed so much. But Gibbs needs different personnel for his system!! I think this team will stick together for a while!

love them hogs · 08-04-2004, 09:52 PM

I hope your right.Although we all know how Danny boy is.

That Guy · 08-04-2004, 10:42 PM

Big P loves hating on LDS, whether its merited or not, sometimes when its not even remotely relevant, so.... grain of salt on his danny-bashing.

saden1 · 08-05-2004, 01:26 AM

I'm surprised no one posted a link to the latest pasta belly article

He's hate'ing as usual. First class

extraordinaire.

SmootSmack · 08-05-2004, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riggo44

If SS had come back.(Thank God he didn't!)

Damn, for a second there I thought you were talking about me. I was like 'what did I do'?

Daseal · 08-05-2004, 01:29 AM

We've been in salary cap hell for how long? Someone give Snyder the respect he needs for being able to manage the 'skins cap better than any other team in the league.

bedlamVR · 08-05-2004, 05:46 AM

What is Pasta's valid point?

The Redskins allways turn over enough money to fund Snyders "reckless" spending each year . He could quite happiliy pocket that money and field a team of mediocre players but he doesn't he gives the coaches what they feal they need to succeed what is reckless or irrisponsible about that? . He may have an input but from what i have red other than Ramsey and the 2000 bust team the players brought in the players brought in have been the choices of HC in charge.

Xhadow · 08-05-2004, 08:04 AM

Not to mention that the Redskins are the most finacially successful franchise in sports, (unfortunately with Dallas and the NY Yankees running a close second and third) so as long as Mr Snyder keeps this team together for more than half a season we should have a lot to look forward to.

MTK · 08-05-2004, 08:15 AM

The only way we're going to prove guys like this wrong is results on the field. 10-6 or 11-5 would go a long way to shut Lenny P up.

kingerock · 08-05-2004, 09:17 AM

he'll find something else to gripe about even with a good record. He's like a political pundant. No matter what's happening, if you are on the other side of it, you'll find a reason to moan and groan.

JoeGibbsIsBack · 08-05-2004, 01:12 PM

This guys a clown anyway, I hate reading him.

SkinsRock · 08-06-2004, 09:50 AM

A 5-11 record usually calls for a roster overhaul...especially with a new coaching staff. Pastabelly is a Snyder hating idiot. I do agree that a 10-6 or 11-5 record and a good playoff run will do very well to shut him and the rest of them up. But of course, Gibbs will be given all the credit then....that he did it in spite of Danny. They will overlook the fact that Dan hired him to learn from Gibbs, and to win.
I really don't care what they say as long as the Skins play good football and win frequently, which I am completely confident they will do under Gibbs.

08-04-2004, 08:20 PM	#1
Bergman14 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Winston-Salem Age: 42 Posts: 138	More from the world of insider Here is Pasquerelli's take on the redskins, it is harsh but may present a valid point: Worst Case Last spring, when Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder was in the midst of his annual free-agency spending spree, he announced to anyone naive enough to listen that the team's roster was set for the next three seasons. Snyder His rationale was that, from a competitive and salary-cap perspective, he could not afford to tear down his team so quickly, and to rebuild again. A year later, though, Snyder has basically done just what he promised not to do. And as was the case in 2003, he is telling people that he has created a three-year window for the roster as currently configured. And therein, folks, lies the Redskins' worst-case scenario for the 2004 campaign. Snyder is an instant-coffee kind of guy. For him, long-term planning pretty much consists of what might transpire during the next commercial break. And so, if you are a 'Skins fan, you're living in mortal fear that the owner too impatient to allow for development will deconstruct the product again. Certainly it is the prerogative of any owner to run the team in the manner he sees fit. Given what the Redskins cost Snyder to buy, and the money he keeps sinking into his team, he has earned that right even more so than many of his NFL fraternity brothers. But at some juncture, you've got to provide time for the seeds of progress to take root, and that is a lesson totally foreign to Snyder's psyche. Best Case The best-case scenario is that coach Joe Gibbs, returning after an 11-season hiatus from the league, either wins quickly or convinces his boss that success isn't far off. What the club most needs is for Gibbs to restore a semblance of order, dignity and professionalism, and he seems well on the way to accomplishing some of those pursuits. The Redskins run their camp as if it is Stalag Snyder, with more security than you might expect to encounter at some government facility, but there is no denying that the team is better run than at any time in the failed Steve Spurrier experiment. Washington fans will disagree, and adamantly, we're sure, with the best-case bottom line. But in the ever-competitive NFC East, garnering a playoff spot will be difficult, even for Gibbs. Progress would be an 8-8 or 9-7 record, and Gibbs convincing the owner that such an accomplishment should be viewed as a springboard for future success and not just the latest excuse to start over again.

08-04-2004, 09:51 PM	#2
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	If SS had come back.(Thank God he didn't!) The roster might not have changed so much. But Gibbs needs different personnel for his system!! I think this team will stick together for a while! __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

08-05-2004, 01:26 AM	#5
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	More Pasta? Yes Please! I'm surprised no one posted a link to the latest pasta belly article He's hate'ing as usual. First class extraordinaire.

08-05-2004, 08:15 AM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	The only way we're going to prove guys like this wrong is results on the field. 10-6 or 11-5 would go a long way to shut Lenny P up. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-05-2004, 09:17 AM	#11
kingerock Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Killeen, TX Age: 49 Posts: 360	he'll find something else to gripe about even with a good record. He's like a political pundant. No matter what's happening, if you are on the other side of it, you'll find a reason to moan and groan. __________________ Redskins fan lost in Texas for 20 years. Need a ride to D.C.

08-04-2004, 09:52 PM	#3
love them hogs Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baltimore for now Age: 46 Posts: 235	I hope your right.Although we all know how Danny boy is.

08-04-2004, 10:42 PM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Big P loves hating on LDS, whether its merited or not, sometimes when its not even remotely relevant, so.... grain of salt on his danny-bashing.

08-05-2004, 01:29 AM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	We've been in salary cap hell for how long? Someone give Snyder the respect he needs for being able to manage the 'skins cap better than any other team in the league.

08-05-2004, 05:46 AM	#8
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	What is Pasta's valid point? The Redskins allways turn over enough money to fund Snyders "reckless" spending each year . He could quite happiliy pocket that money and field a team of mediocre players but he doesn't he gives the coaches what they feal they need to succeed what is reckless or irrisponsible about that? . He may have an input but from what i have red other than Ramsey and the 2000 bust team the players brought in the players brought in have been the choices of HC in charge.

08-05-2004, 08:04 AM	#9
Xhadow Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2	Not to mention that the Redskins are the most finacially successful franchise in sports, (unfortunately with Dallas and the NY Yankees running a close second and third) so as long as Mr Snyder keeps this team together for more than half a season we should have a lot to look forward to.

08-05-2004, 01:12 PM	#12
JoeGibbsIsBack Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 31	This guys a clown anyway, I hate reading him.

08-06-2004, 09:50 AM	#13
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	A 5-11 record usually calls for a roster overhaul...especially with a new coaching staff. Pastabelly is a Snyder hating idiot. I do agree that a 10-6 or 11-5 record and a good playoff run will do very well to shut him and the rest of them up. But of course, Gibbs will be given all the credit then....that he did it in spite of Danny. They will overlook the fact that Dan hired him to learn from Gibbs, and to win. I really don't care what they say as long as the Skins play good football and win frequently, which I am completely confident they will do under Gibbs.

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