Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay

SouperMeister · 11-19-2007, 09:17 PM

Based on Pro Football Weekly's observations, I would look for a heavy dose of Portis this week:

Despite those occasional lapses in football judgment, the Bucs are one of the few consistent teams in the NFC this season — they almost always stop the pass on defense and squeeze just enough out of an average offense to win.

Tampa Bay, however, has a hard time beating teams that commit to the run and pound the ball at them on the ground for 60 minutes, as evidenced in losses to the Colts, Lions, and Jaguars. This week’s matchup with the Redskins poses a great challenge as they take on RB Clinton Portis, who could expose one of the Bucs’ few weaknesses.

If June, MLB Barrett Ruud, and WLB Derrick Brooks are interested in establishing their crew as a defense that can shut down a strong run offense, they have a perfect opportunity to do so at Raymond James Stadium against Washington.

GMScud · 11-19-2007, 09:26 PM

Not to mention starting LB Cato June just got picked up for DUI for driving while hammered on his birthday. These guys never cease to amaze me. All that money, and they get behind the wheel drunk. I mean, a millionaire is out celebrating his birthday and he can't spring for a limo or at least a cab?? Come on.

We're certainly not gonna throw 54 times against Tampa. Portis should get double the 12 carries he had against Dallas. It's a must win IMO.

SouperMeister · 11-19-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Not to mention starting LB Cato June just got picked up for DUI for driving while hammered on his birthday. These guys never cease to amaze me. All that money, and they get behind the wheel drunk. I mean, a millionaire is out celebrating his birthday and he can't spring for a limo or at least a cab?? Come on.

We're certainly not gonna throw 54 times against Tampa. Portis should get double the 12 carries he had against Dallas. It's a must win IMO.

That would be huge if June is disciplined and misses the game, but I wouldn't count on that. TB is a small, very fast defense traditionally, so we need to be very physical with them to try to break their will.

SFREDSKIN · 11-19-2007, 10:30 PM

I doubt that he misses the game. Brandon marshall WR Denver also got popped for DUI and is still playing, then look at Travis Henry, etc. Discipline is slow.

WillH · 11-19-2007, 10:33 PM

Yeah, it is probably the best idea to pound the ball this weekend. I just got done saying in another thread, however, that I would hate to lose this spark in our passing game. I guess the best solution to that problem may be to attack on the ground and then once you've tired them out a bit start the gun slinging.

chrisl4064 · 11-19-2007, 11:39 PM

I think we will definately pound the ball. Im actually interested to see though how the Bucs attack our defense and if we make any improvements in that area. I'm not at all worried about our offense. Joey Galloway poses a huge deep threat and may have the same result as what T.O. did to us unless signifigant improvements are made in the secondary.

WillH · 11-20-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisl4064

I think we will definately pound the ball. Im actually interested to see though how the Bucs attack our defense and if we make any improvements in that area. I'm not at all worried about our offense. Joey Galloway poses a huge deep threat and may have the same result as what T.O. did to us unless signifigant improvements are made in the secondary.

I was thinking early that it seemed as if when Springs was on TO in man coverage he did a pretty decent job. TO caught that first TD on him, and caught a few first downs, but he didn't give up any big plays. I wonder why GW didn't just keep Springs manned up on TO all game. I am sure he had his reasons, but it seemed odd after TO's 3rd TD they didn't go back to that...oh well.

Anyways, perhaps we can put Springs on Galloway all game, and abandon the 2-deep zone because it doesn't seem to be working w/o Taylor. But I dont know, is it even plausible to shadow a man all game? It seems to me that if it were we would have done that on TO, so maybe the rookies just have to learn to make better reads.

MTK · 11-20-2007, 08:37 AM

Taking a page from Gruden... Pound the rock! Pound the rock!

mredskins · 11-20-2007, 08:42 AM

Seriously when is Tampa Bay moving to the NFC East? We play them every year in Tampa it feels like. I am sick of playing them. UGH!!!!

rypper11 · 11-20-2007, 09:00 AM

Tampa's offense is based around the big play. If we play boring defense with them and force them to long drive we should be successful. I've watched a couple of TB games this year and I'm really not impressed. Except for the highlight catches that they seem to get every game their offense is pretty bad. I don't think that any of their receivers will take the short pass and the poundings that go with them the way other teams have against us this year. IMO, part of TO's 2nd half success last week was the short routes he was running all first half and the SKins made adjustments to stop them. So, of course, he ran down the center and scored from long distance. I just don't think Galloway will be able to withstand the hitting of the short stuff to open up the long.

2BIG2BSKINNY · 11-20-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Seriously when is Tampa Bay moving to the NFC East? We play them every year in Tampa it feels like. I am sick of playing them. UGH!!!!

I guess till we start to dominate them they will keep adding them to the sked! The SKINS don't beat the bucs unless it is playoff time! It sure feels like a playoff game as this is a must win!

tickets are still available for $50 bucs! i use to make this trip every time we played...not this year.

dmek25 · 11-20-2007, 11:45 AM

past history shows Clinton Portis with some good success against Tampa. the infamous Alstott elbow game, Portis was running wild. i agree with most, lets run the damn ball

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

past history shows Clinton Portis with some good success against Tampa. the infamous Alstott elbow game, Portis was running wild. i agree with most, lets run the damn ball

Remember his first carry as a Redskin? Broke right and took off down the sideline for a long score. Man, after that play I thought we bent over the Broncos. (not to start that whole debate...)

MTK · 11-20-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

past history shows Clinton Portis with some good success against Tampa. the infamous Alstott elbow game, Portis was running wild. i agree with most, lets run the damn ball

CP gashed them pretty good in that game.

I'd love to see a repeat of that, just with a different ending to the game of course.

11-19-2007, 09:17 PM	#1
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay Based on Pro Football Weekly's observations, I would look for a heavy dose of Portis this week: Despite those occasional lapses in football judgment, the Bucs are one of the few consistent teams in the NFC this season — they almost always stop the pass on defense and squeeze just enough out of an average offense to win. Tampa Bay, however, has a hard time beating teams that commit to the run and pound the ball at them on the ground for 60 minutes, as evidenced in losses to the Colts, Lions, and Jaguars. This week’s matchup with the Redskins poses a great challenge as they take on RB Clinton Portis, who could expose one of the Bucs’ few weaknesses. If June, MLB Barrett Ruud, and WLB Derrick Brooks are interested in establishing their crew as a defense that can shut down a strong run offense, they have a perfect opportunity to do so at Raymond James Stadium against Washington.

11-19-2007, 09:26 PM	#2
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay Not to mention starting LB Cato June just got picked up for DUI for driving while hammered on his birthday. These guys never cease to amaze me. All that money, and they get behind the wheel drunk. I mean, a millionaire is out celebrating his birthday and he can't spring for a limo or at least a cab?? Come on. We're certainly not gonna throw 54 times against Tampa. Portis should get double the 12 carries he had against Dallas. It's a must win IMO. __________________ Tardy

11-19-2007, 10:30 PM	#4
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay I doubt that he misses the game. Brandon marshall WR Denver also got popped for DUI and is still playing, then look at Travis Henry, etc. Discipline is slow.

11-19-2007, 10:33 PM	#5
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,592	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay Yeah, it is probably the best idea to pound the ball this weekend. I just got done saying in another thread, however, that I would hate to lose this spark in our passing game. I guess the best solution to that problem may be to attack on the ground and then once you've tired them out a bit start the gun slinging.

11-19-2007, 11:39 PM	#6
chrisl4064 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lake Travis, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 786	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay I think we will definately pound the ball. Im actually interested to see though how the Bucs attack our defense and if we make any improvements in that area. I'm not at all worried about our offense. Joey Galloway poses a huge deep threat and may have the same result as what T.O. did to us unless signifigant improvements are made in the secondary.

11-20-2007, 08:37 AM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay Taking a page from Gruden... Pound the rock! Pound the rock! __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-20-2007, 08:42 AM	#9
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13,007	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay Seriously when is Tampa Bay moving to the NFC East? We play them every year in Tampa it feels like. I am sick of playing them. UGH!!!!

11-20-2007, 09:00 AM	#10
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay Tampa's offense is based around the big play. If we play boring defense with them and force them to long drive we should be successful. I've watched a couple of TB games this year and I'm really not impressed. Except for the highlight catches that they seem to get every game their offense is pretty bad. I don't think that any of their receivers will take the short pass and the poundings that go with them the way other teams have against us this year. IMO, part of TO's 2nd half success last week was the short routes he was running all first half and the SKins made adjustments to stop them. So, of course, he ran down the center and scored from long distance. I just don't think Galloway will be able to withstand the hitting of the short stuff to open up the long. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

11-20-2007, 11:45 AM	#12
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Interesting PFW Take on Tampa Bay past history shows Clinton Portis with some good success against Tampa. the infamous Alstott elbow game, Portis was running wild. i agree with most, lets run the damn ball __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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