Stephon Heyer-Our Right Tackle!!

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 06-09-2009, 02:30 PM

I recently purchased NFL Game Rewind off of NFL.com and I was watching all of the Skins games from last season and I tell you I came away impressed with Heyer. He is an amazing pass blocker if only he could get stronger at the point of attack in the running game. It seems like Samuels was getting more help than Heyer when we passed te ball. I hope he does get the start for the upcoming season. Heyer will be someone to watch this season as an up-and-comer. When Jansen came into the starting the lineup the running game picked up steam but the passing went down considerably. If we are going to better offensively in the passing game than Heyer is your guy. I believe he could be the left tackle and moved Samuels to the right tackle for some balance since left tackle really is known for their pass blocking and the right tackle for their running blocking.

The Goat · 06-09-2009, 02:41 PM

Like others have noted Heyer flashes pretty impressive talent. His issues are run-blocking, where he looks like a giant lost puppy part of the time, and staying healthy through a season (i don't think he's been able to do this yet).

53Fan · 06-09-2009, 05:14 PM

I think Heyer will hold his own this year. I didn't think he played bad last year when he was at RT.

SmootSmack · 06-09-2009, 05:52 PM

I'm always amused by the enthusiasm of your thread titles : )

Gmanc711 · 06-09-2009, 06:08 PM

I still think Heyer has a lot of upside and alot of potential. I'm still hesitant to be very excited about him starting at right tackle next year if he ends up winning the job... he has started quite a few games for us already, and for being an undrafted free agent, he has done a heck of a job so far and only looks to get better. However, I still am a little leary of him starting in 2009.

MTK · 06-10-2009, 08:13 AM

Heyer at LT? Pass.

Pocket$ $traight · 06-10-2009, 08:26 AM

Is he even as good as Bridges?

Pocket$ $traight · 06-10-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Heyer at LT? Pass.

Come on now. I almost spit my cereal on the laptop.

Schneed10 · 06-10-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Heyer at LT? Pass.

My sentiments exactly.

Problem is the hole in Heyer's game is so huge that we have to always run left when we really need to get yards on the ground. It makes us too predictable. That's why Zorn started Jansen at the end of last season, despite Jansen being relatively worthless.

I don't care how good a pass blocker he is, if he doesn't get significantly better as a run blocker this season, I'll be screaming for us to grab a top RT in next year's draft.

MTK · 06-10-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't care how good a pass blocker he is, if he doesn't get significantly better as a run blocker this season, I'll be screaming for us to grab a top RT in next year's draft.

My prediction is Bridges is the starting RT come week 1. I'm not as high on Heyer as some are. The kid has potential but he still has some pretty glaring weaknesses in run blocking and he needs to be more consisent overall.

Bridges is more physical and more polished at this point. I think he will beat Heyer out.

JoeRedskin · 06-10-2009, 08:59 AM

Let me ask this, which is more difficult to learn/be proficient at? run or pass blocking?

It strikes me that pass blocking requires much more athleticism and that, as such, you can teach a good pass blocker to run block, but you may not be able to teach a run blocker to pass block. (Similar to baseball where you can't teach heat; but u can teach a fastball piticher to mix it up).

IF Heyer can learn to bend and drive in the run blocking, he has the potential to be a MUCH better tackle. I admit its a big "if" and one that will only be demonstrated in game time. I truly hope it works out.

Schneed10 · 06-10-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Let me ask this, which is more difficult to learn/be proficient at? run or pass blocking?

It strikes me that pass blocking requires much more athleticism and that, as such, you can teach a good pass blocker to run block, but you may not be able to teach a run blocker to pass block. (Similar to baseball where you can't teach heat; but u can teach a fastball piticher to mix it up).

IF Heyer can learn to bend and drive in the run blocking, he has the potential to be a MUCH better tackle. I admit its a big "if" and one that will only be demonstrated in game time. I truly hope it works out.

To an extent you're probably right, but then again run blocking depends upon explosion off the ball so you can get to the guy in front of you faster, which takes lots of fast-twitch muscle strength. That part of it is God-given. You can improve upon it in the weight room, but only so much.

Heyer might be nimble on his feet, but I haven't seen much power.

Schneed10 · 06-10-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My prediction is Bridges is the starting RT come week 1. I'm not as high on Heyer as some are. The kid has potential but he still has some pretty glaring weaknesses in run blocking and he needs to be more consisent overall.

Bridges is more physical and more polished at this point. I think he will beat Heyer out.

I can definitely see that. In fact I'm hoping that happens, because it will signal that we've got something a bit better than what we had last season.

Once healthy, Heyer couldn't even beat out Jansen, who Zorn just saw fit to cut. You know the Skins don't like Heyer that much, otherwise they wouldn't have gone for Bridges and taken the flyer on Mike Williams.

MTK · 06-10-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I can definitely see that. In fact I'm hoping that happens, because it will signal that we've got something a bit better than what we had last season.

Once healthy, Heyer couldn't even beat out Jansen, who Zorn just saw fit to cut. You know the Skins don't like Heyer that much, otherwise they wouldn't have gone for Bridges and taken the flyer on Mike Williams.

Yeah it's pretty obvious by those moves that the team is not completely sold on the idea of Heyer as the starter.

MTK · 06-10-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

To an extent you're probably right, but then again run blocking depends upon explosion off the ball so you can get to the guy in front of you faster, which takes lots of fast-twitch muscle strength. That part of it is God-given. You can improve upon it in the weight room, but only so much.

Heyer might be nimble on his feet, but I haven't seen much power.

One of the knocks on Heyer on his Scouts Inc profile is he lacks that initial explosion in his run blocking.

06-09-2009, 02:30 PM	#1
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Queens Village, NY Age: 45 Posts: 349	Stephon Heyer-Our Right Tackle!! I recently purchased NFL Game Rewind off of NFL.com and I was watching all of the Skins games from last season and I tell you I came away impressed with Heyer. He is an amazing pass blocker if only he could get stronger at the point of attack in the running game. It seems like Samuels was getting more help than Heyer when we passed te ball. I hope he does get the start for the upcoming season. Heyer will be someone to watch this season as an up-and-comer. When Jansen came into the starting the lineup the running game picked up steam but the passing went down considerably. If we are going to better offensively in the passing game than Heyer is your guy. I believe he could be the left tackle and moved Samuels to the right tackle for some balance since left tackle really is known for their pass blocking and the right tackle for their running blocking. Last edited by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor; 06-09-2009 at 02:33 PM. Reason: Adding some info.

06-09-2009, 02:41 PM	#2
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Stephon Heyer-Our Right Tackle!! Like others have noted Heyer flashes pretty impressive talent. His issues are run-blocking, where he looks like a giant lost puppy part of the time, and staying healthy through a season (i don't think he's been able to do this yet). __________________ 24-34

06-09-2009, 05:14 PM	#3
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Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Stephon Heyer-Our Right Tackle!! I still think Heyer has a lot of upside and alot of potential. I'm still hesitant to be very excited about him starting at right tackle next year if he ends up winning the job... he has started quite a few games for us already, and for being an undrafted free agent, he has done a heck of a job so far and only looks to get better. However, I still am a little leary of him starting in 2009. __________________ #21

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JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Stephon Heyer-Our Right Tackle!! Let me ask this, which is more difficult to learn/be proficient at? run or pass blocking? It strikes me that pass blocking requires much more athleticism and that, as such, you can teach a good pass blocker to run block, but you may not be able to teach a run blocker to pass block. (Similar to baseball where you can't teach heat; but u can teach a fastball piticher to mix it up). IF Heyer can learn to bend and drive in the run blocking, he has the potential to be a MUCH better tackle. I admit its a big "if" and one that will only be demonstrated in game time. I truly hope it works out. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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