Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade?

SmootSmack · 09-01-2010, 10:56 AM

Sources: Two trades being monitored by NFLPA - ESPN

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The NFL Players Association is monitoring a little-known "85-percent rule" in 2010 after two minor trades this week involving rookie players were made, according to union and league sources.

Under the rule, which is only applicable in an uncapped year, any drafted rookie that is cut by his team is guaranteed 85 percent of his first-year minimum-wage $310,000 salary.

However, the union believes the Redskins and Rams circumvented the rule when they exchanged rookie players in separate transactions earlier this week. The Redskins traded rookie tight end/fullback Dennis Morris to the Rams for a future conditional draft pick; the Redskins then acquired rookie linebacker Hall Davis, also for a conditional draft pick.

BigHairedAristocrat · 09-01-2010, 10:59 AM

so the redskins and rams engaged in a sham trade with the sole purpose of each team saving less than 300k each?

Monkeydad · 09-01-2010, 11:00 AM

Absolutely not.

They're BOTH players unlikely to make rosters of either team...so why not accuse the Rams also?

If Morris gets cut...both teams end up even...no compensatory picks OR acquired players.

diehard · 09-01-2010, 11:01 AM

That's not a lot of money by league standards. Ok, pay them their $310K.

SmootSmack · 09-01-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Absolutely not.

They're BOTH players unlikely to make rosters of either team...so why not accuse the Rams also?

If Morris gets cut...both teams end up even...no compensatory picks OR acquired players.

Um..they are accusing the Rams also

Monkeydad · 09-01-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Um..they are accusing the Rams also

Thread title isn't.

Chico23231 · 09-01-2010, 11:07 AM

It seemed like a very wierd deal when it occured and when we cut the guy we got, I thought it sounded fishy, but sounds like we were within the rules right?

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-01-2010, 11:09 AM

Think this is a little ridiculous if this was the reasoning behind the trade.

A 300,000 dollar check if used properly can really help some get there life off the ground in the right kind of way. I do not know much about this Davis guy, but this seems to be pretty shady if this is the reason.

These clubs have a ton of cash and the rules of the CBA need to be followed. How would this effect the clubs in question anyway? Take the 300k loss, for the Redskins who are worth 1.5 Billion Dollars this is pennies.

Monkeydad · 09-01-2010, 11:10 AM

Maybe we can tell the NFLPA and league to forget about this deal if we admit to tampering in the Haynesworth deal, and reverse that transaction...sending him back to the Titans.

CRedskinsRule · 09-01-2010, 11:13 AM

Maybe that was a little nudge that helped push these deals through, but I have a hard time seeing it as being the primary reason for the back to back trades. Funny, or sad, if it is.

FRPLG · 09-01-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Absolutely not.

They're BOTH players unlikely to make rosters of either team...so why not accuse the Rams also?

If Morris gets cut...both teams end up even...no compensatory picks OR acquired players.

The NFLPA doesn't care about teams ending up even. Maybe the NFL does but the players don't. The NFLPA cares that rules governing the compensation of their players are followed. If the two teams engaged in a sham trade to deny certain players their duly earned compensation, via the CBA, then the NFLPA is going to make an issue of it.

Schneed10 · 09-01-2010, 11:29 AM

Pretty compelling evidence against the Skins and Rams here, given that there was apparently no on-the-field motivation for the trades.

A slap on the wrist is probably in order.

BigHairedAristocrat · 09-01-2010, 11:38 AM

whether or not the rules were followed isnt even an issue here - what the skins and the rams did is allowed within the rules of the contract the NFLPA negotiated with the league.

I dont understand what, exactly, the NFLPA is expecting to happen here. really, all this will result in is the NFLPA wanting to close this loophole in the next CBA, and the league refusing to do so unless the NFLPA makes a concession. I would not be surprised at all if this whole thing was orchestrated to exploit a loophole the NFLPA didnt even know existed.

Kudos to the Redskins and Rams for giving the league extra leverage.

SmootSmack · 09-01-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Thread title isn't.

Longtimefan · 09-01-2010, 11:55 AM

Shades of GA revisited. No one manipulates DP's like the Allen's.

09-01-2010, 10:59 AM	#2
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? so the redskins and rams engaged in a sham trade with the sole purpose of each team saving less than 300k each? __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

09-01-2010, 11:00 AM	#3
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? Absolutely not. They're BOTH players unlikely to make rosters of either team...so why not accuse the Rams also? If Morris gets cut...both teams end up even...no compensatory picks OR acquired players. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

09-01-2010, 11:01 AM	#4
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? That's not a lot of money by league standards. Ok, pay them their $310K. __________________ *'Any NFL team will win with RG3. Imagine how exciting it will be watching him do it.'*

09-01-2010, 11:07 AM	#7
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,018	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? It seemed like a very wierd deal when it occured and when we cut the guy we got, I thought it sounded fishy, but sounds like we were within the rules right? __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

09-01-2010, 11:09 AM	#8
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? Think this is a little ridiculous if this was the reasoning behind the trade. A 300,000 dollar check if used properly can really help some get there life off the ground in the right kind of way. I do not know much about this Davis guy, but this seems to be pretty shady if this is the reason. These clubs have a ton of cash and the rules of the CBA need to be followed. How would this effect the clubs in question anyway? Take the 300k loss, for the Redskins who are worth 1.5 Billion Dollars this is pennies. __________________ Just win.

09-01-2010, 11:10 AM	#9
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? Maybe we can tell the NFLPA and league to forget about this deal if we admit to tampering in the Haynesworth deal, and reverse that transaction...sending him back to the Titans. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

09-01-2010, 11:13 AM	#10
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,695	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? Maybe that was a little nudge that helped push these deals through, but I have a hard time seeing it as being the primary reason for the back to back trades. Funny, or sad, if it is.

09-01-2010, 11:29 AM	#12
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? Pretty compelling evidence against the Skins and Rams here, given that there was apparently no on-the-field motivation for the trades. A slap on the wrist is probably in order. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

09-01-2010, 11:38 AM	#13
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? whether or not the rules were followed isnt even an issue here - what the skins and the rams did is allowed within the rules of the contract the NFLPA negotiated with the league. I dont understand what, exactly, the NFLPA is expecting to happen here. really, all this will result in is the NFLPA wanting to close this loophole in the next CBA, and the league refusing to do so unless the NFLPA makes a concession. I would not be surprised at all if this whole thing was orchestrated to exploit a loophole the NFLPA didnt even know existed. Kudos to the Redskins and Rams for giving the league extra leverage. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

09-01-2010, 11:55 AM	#15
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Did Redskins Bend Rules in Morris Trade? Shades of GA revisited. No one manipulates DP's like the Allen's. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

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