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Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Worst Cornerback Charting Stats 2010
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | DeAngelo Hall Quote:
Some of you complained about my stats in the other DeAngelo Hall thread were dated and he had done much better since those stats. Well, here you go fellow Skins fans. Our very own DeAngelo Hall showing he's all flash and no substance. Bottom 10 Cornerbacks in Success Rate, 2010 Player Team Charted Targets Yd/Pass Rk Avg. Pass Distance YAC Rk Success Rate Rk #2 DeAngelo Hall WAS 88 10.5 81 10.4 5.8 81 39% 82 Bottom 10 Cornerbacks in Yards per Pass, 2010 Player Team Charted Targets Yd/Pass Rk Avg. Pass Distance YAC Rk Success Rate Rk #3 DeAngelo Hall WAS 88 10.5 81 10.4 5.8 81 39% 82 Bottom 10 Cornerbacks in YAC Allowed, 2010 Player Team Charted Targets Yd/Pass Rk Avg. Pass Distance YAC Rk Success Rate Rk #3 DeAngelo Hall WAS 88 10.5 81 10.4 5.8 81 39% 82 Enough of this "oh he made the pro-bowl and was MVP and had 6 ints". He is not our best cover CB by far and the numbers prove it. Edit: A list of the best rated CBs in 2010 FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Best Cornerback Charting Stats 2010 |
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
Compares really poorly to Rogers and Buchanon (as well as Tryon), which is the important stuff.
We need to improve our pass coverage at many positions. Hall, who remains under contract, is probably not a target to be replaced this offseason. Especially with the Rogers contract uncertainty. I doubt Hall will be here still in 2012. But he would appear safe for now.
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
Pointless IMO we all know how hall plays he's a ball hawk and gambler no shock here
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
Having a free safety that can cover and Landry back in the line up should help him improve these numbers.
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
Can't hurt.
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
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I think Ed Reed is a player who really is right more than he's wrong when he drops coverage and gambles, and generates a disproportional amount of turnovers. More turnovers in 10 games this year than Hall had in 16. Reed also might be a hall of famer some day, so perhaps it's a bad comparison. Point is, I don't think big play gamblers also have to be poor coverage players. Ed Reed, I don't think, is better than average at covering, but he's at least that.
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
deangelo hall, over rated this year? without a doubt. a liability most of the time? probably.
But I still like him on our team. He adds that x-factor our defense needs. These numbers are kind of disturbing, and I didn't know he was that bad in his blown coverages, but for the sake of me having a little optimism I'm going to chalk it up to the creator of these numbers not understanding the schemes/coverage responsibilities. |
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
Where are all the d-hall fanboys now?
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
I am shocked he isn't the worst...cutler really saved him.
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
Are we cross-comparing safeties and cb's itt?
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
I'm a huge DHall fan, the guy makes plays. He beat Dallas and Chicago basically by himself
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
I like him too........ But for every pick he gives up three touchdowns.
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
DeAngelo Hall has earned ALL of the praise and critcism that he has recieved. He earned his trip to the Pro Bowl and He earned his MVP status. He has also earned your loathfulness. Let me just say that no one is perfect in this league. He did enough good to overcome the bad and was considerd among the best by fans, players, and sports writers alike...SUCK IT!
The problem that I have with these so called numbers is this: Did they take into account what his actual responsibility was on each and every play? I'll answer that "No, they did not." I guarentee you that they said "D Hall was the closest guy, so it must have been his responsibility." Stuff like that is easy to say about any player that is all over the field. All joking aside the bottom line is this. He takes risks and more often that not it benefits the team. Tight coverage is only good for so long because QB's will eventually complete passes against someone like Carlos Rogers and we saw it happen for years. We could not get a turnover to save our life. You need a guy like Hall who can take away opportunities. So what if he gives up some yards on big plays too! I will take his good with his bad any day of the week...especially on Sunday. |
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
I'd prefer a player more complete at the position. There are no specialists when it comes to starting CB's, you can either play all aspects of the position or you can't. Tackling is just as much a requirement of the position as is interceptions and coverage skills.
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Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)
Lord we need a CBA
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