Addressing a real need

jdlea · 03-10-2005, 11:36 AM

Now that we have Moss, Patten, McCants, Jacobs and Thrash I think we could get by with that receiving corps. I don't think that we will have one or two individuals really break out, but I think we could have an offense similar to that of the Pats.

Which leads me to the draft. All I've seen is that Shawn Merriman will be the first DE taken. I think we should take a look at him. I don't know much about him or if he is dominant, but I know he is a pass rusher. We didn't have much of a pass rush from our front four last year and while we did a good job of masking that, I think we need to get better up front. I think he would be a good pick at 9.

SKINSnCANES · 03-10-2005, 11:43 AM

If they want to go dline then this guy would be a threat, and he would suit Williams diverse playcalling because he can easily step back into the linebacker role for coverage and have someone else blitz to mix things up. Him and lavar could have a field day messing with the tackles head, or even better both blitz.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2005, 11:46 AM

If we WERE to go with a DE, I would say Merriman or James.

Duffman003 · 03-10-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

but I think we could have an offense similar to that of the Pats.

the only problem is we don't have Tom Brady who is a better quarterback then Patrick

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-10-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffman003

the only problem is we don't have Tom Brady who is a better quarterback then Patrick

smart wise yes, physical talent no. but if thats what smarts gets u over physical talent we need to us one of them, or atleast hope Brunnel drops some knowledge on Ramsey from his earlier playing days.

jdlea · 03-10-2005, 12:07 PM

Clearly Brady has a better head on his shoulders when he is on the field. However, I think there are a lot of QBs who could flourish without having a number one receiver. If you run a system where you don't have to try to get a guy 100 balls a year. I think that having a system where you simply have a receiving corps is the answer in today's NFL. Especially now that corners can't touch receivers anymore.

e16bball · 03-10-2005, 12:22 PM

I see the point about having a WR corps. However, to play devil's advocate, I wonder what Donovan McNabb would tell you about it not being important to have a go-to-receiver. He was a good QB before TO, but when TO came around, his statistics ALL skyrocketed. I think that kind of addition would/could really upgrade our offensive attack. A good passrushing DE would help but I don't think it would significantly upgrade our D, especially with LaVar returning. We can now attack off the edges with both of our OLBs.

So I guess my point is, if we have any chance at Mike Williams, we should jump at it. But Merriman is a pretty good consolation prize; some people think he has the tools to be a Julius Peppers type of player with his freakish athleticism. Also, the Cowboys want him badly so it would be nice to screw them over.

jdlea · 03-10-2005, 12:24 PM

I agree that a number one can put your team over the top...no doubt. However, I think that Williams and Edwards are gonna be gone. So, I think they should think about a DE because I just htink it would awesome to have a great DE. I'm too young to remember Charles Mann, so I would like to see one here now.

56FAN · 03-10-2005, 12:36 PM

Anybody Know What's Up With David Boston?, He Was Released And Maybe
We Could Get Him Some What Cheap. He Needs To Restart His Career. And If Big If He Is Really Healthy He Could Help Then We Can Replenish The D.

celts32 · 03-10-2005, 12:57 PM

I still think WR is the biggest need on the team. Ramsey is not Tom Brady...he needs a serious playmaker at WR to make this offense work.

skins052bgr8 · 03-10-2005, 12:58 PM

I like the recieving corp as well, though they may not be spectacular or that one standout, I can't figure out why Darnerian or is it Darcarian like Spurrier used to call him, can't be that red zone threat. How many times did Spurrier use that little out with McCants inside the 10 and put 6 on the board. He seems to me to be a possession receiver and even has some speed to get down field.

Is the guy a basket case, attitude problems, to worried about his singing career? I'm lost to the lack of use of him besides the special teams, but as poor as we were in the red zone. I would definitely consider bringing him in along with cooley a threat in the red zone and use betts to somewhat power the middle. Little triple threat action.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e16bball

I see the point about having a WR corps. However, to play devil's advocate, I wonder what Donovan McNabb would tell you about it not being important to have a go-to-receiver. He was a good QB before TO, but when TO came around, his statistics ALL skyrocketed. I think that kind of addition would/could really upgrade our offensive attack. A good passrushing DE would help but I don't think it would significantly upgrade our D, especially with LaVar returning. We can now attack off the edges with both of our OLBs.

So I guess my point is, if we have any chance at Mike Williams, we should jump at it. But Merriman is a pretty good consolation prize; some people think he has the tools to be a Julius Peppers type of player with his freakish athleticism. Also, the Cowboys want him badly so it would be nice to screw them over.

I completely agree with that statement. If Williams is there, he's worth the chance. Again, I say what was our strength last year? Defense. What, if any, position do we need a major upgrade at? Wide receiver. So if we have a shot at Williams, I say take it.

Big C · 03-10-2005, 01:09 PM

merriman is really small for a DE, hes a tweener, probably best suited for the outside LB in a 3-4 scheme. i dont think right now he can be a 3 down player at DE, just a situational pass rusher until he ads some bulk

FRPLG · 03-10-2005, 01:10 PM

We need both a CB and a WR before a DE. I think we'll have a shot at a stud WR and we should take him. If we don't then there are still some quality CBs we could go after. I don't think any of the DEs or CBs are stud quality but here are some who will be good players.

MTK · 03-10-2005, 01:19 PM

I'd still go WR if we keep the #9 pick.

I just don't see DE as huge need. It would be nice, but the D was just fine last year without a superstar pass rusher.

Getting LaVar back should help improve our pass rush options, as well the continued development of Clemons.

03-10-2005, 11:36 AM	#1
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Addressing a real need Now that we have Moss, Patten, McCants, Jacobs and Thrash I think we could get by with that receiving corps. I don't think that we will have one or two individuals really break out, but I think we could have an offense similar to that of the Pats. Which leads me to the draft. All I've seen is that Shawn Merriman will be the first DE taken. I think we should take a look at him. I don't know much about him or if he is dominant, but I know he is a pass rusher. We didn't have much of a pass rush from our front four last year and while we did a good job of masking that, I think we need to get better up front. I think he would be a good pick at 9.

03-10-2005, 11:43 AM	#2
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Re: Addressing a real need If they want to go dline then this guy would be a threat, and he would suit Williams diverse playcalling because he can easily step back into the linebacker role for coverage and have someone else blitz to mix things up. Him and lavar could have a field day messing with the tackles head, or even better both blitz. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

03-10-2005, 11:46 AM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Addressing a real need If we WERE to go with a DE, I would say Merriman or James. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2005, 12:07 PM	#6
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Addressing a real need Clearly Brady has a better head on his shoulders when he is on the field. However, I think there are a lot of QBs who could flourish without having a number one receiver. If you run a system where you don't have to try to get a guy 100 balls a year. I think that having a system where you simply have a receiving corps is the answer in today's NFL. Especially now that corners can't touch receivers anymore.

03-10-2005, 12:22 PM	#7
e16bball Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 163	Re: Addressing a real need I see the point about having a WR corps. However, to play devil's advocate, I wonder what Donovan McNabb would tell you about it not being important to have a go-to-receiver. He was a good QB before TO, but when TO came around, his statistics ALL skyrocketed. I think that kind of addition would/could really upgrade our offensive attack. A good passrushing DE would help but I don't think it would significantly upgrade our D, especially with LaVar returning. We can now attack off the edges with both of our OLBs. So I guess my point is, if we have any chance at Mike Williams, we should jump at it. But Merriman is a pretty good consolation prize; some people think he has the tools to be a Julius Peppers type of player with his freakish athleticism. Also, the Cowboys want him badly so it would be nice to screw them over.

03-10-2005, 12:24 PM	#8
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Addressing a real need I agree that a number one can put your team over the top...no doubt. However, I think that Williams and Edwards are gonna be gone. So, I think they should think about a DE because I just htink it would awesome to have a great DE. I'm too young to remember Charles Mann, so I would like to see one here now.

03-10-2005, 12:36 PM	#9
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 63 Posts: 323	Re: Addressing a real need Anybody Know What's Up With David Boston?, He Was Released And Maybe We Could Get Him Some What Cheap. He Needs To Restart His Career. And If Big If He Is Really Healthy He Could Help Then We Can Replenish The D.

03-10-2005, 12:57 PM	#10
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Addressing a real need I still think WR is the biggest need on the team. Ramsey is not Tom Brady...he needs a serious playmaker at WR to make this offense work.

03-10-2005, 12:58 PM	#11
skins052bgr8 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Richmond, Va. Age: 49 Posts: 288	Re: Addressing a real need I like the recieving corp as well, though they may not be spectacular or that one standout, I can't figure out why Darnerian or is it Darcarian like Spurrier used to call him, can't be that red zone threat. How many times did Spurrier use that little out with McCants inside the 10 and put 6 on the board. He seems to me to be a possession receiver and even has some speed to get down field. Is the guy a basket case, attitude problems, to worried about his singing career? I'm lost to the lack of use of him besides the special teams, but as poor as we were in the red zone. I would definitely consider bringing him in along with cooley a threat in the red zone and use betts to somewhat power the middle. Little triple threat action.

03-10-2005, 01:09 PM	#13
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: Addressing a real need merriman is really small for a DE, hes a tweener, probably best suited for the outside LB in a 3-4 scheme. i dont think right now he can be a 3 down player at DE, just a situational pass rusher until he ads some bulk __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

03-10-2005, 01:10 PM	#14
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Addressing a real need We need both a CB and a WR before a DE. I think we'll have a shot at a stud WR and we should take him. If we don't then there are still some quality CBs we could go after. I don't think any of the DEs or CBs are stud quality but here are some who will be good players.

03-10-2005, 01:19 PM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Addressing a real need I'd still go WR if we keep the #9 pick. I just don't see DE as huge need. It would be nice, but the D was just fine last year without a superstar pass rusher. Getting LaVar back should help improve our pass rush options, as well the continued development of Clemons. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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