To Read Option, or Not

SouperMeister · 01-09-2013, 04:45 PM

I may be in the minority on this, but I do not believe Shanny should abandon the read option. By the middle of the season, Griffin was so good at reading defensive ends, that when he opted to keep the ball, he always seemed to get 10+ yards untouched before either sliding or scampering out of bounds. Fact of the matter, his concussion against Atlanta and his initial LCL injury against Baltimore came when a passing play broke down, and he tried to get too much out of his legs instead of throwing the ball away or sliding earlier. It's on Griffin to get better at protecting himself in those situations.

What became clear to me is that a healthy Griffin running read option out of the pistol paralyzes even the most dominant defensive ends, forcing them to read then react. I strongly believe that if we run a normal pocket passing attack, Griffin will take more hits from the likes of JPP, Umenyiora, Trent Cole, and Demarcus Ware.

JoeRedskin · 01-09-2013, 05:05 PM

No disagreement from me. If he learns to slide and get out of bounds, Griffin can run the read all day long. Just like learning to take the sack when there is nowhere to go, however, Griffin needs to learn that sometimes, taking a loss or minimal gain on the R/O is the best play there is - no need to risk injury to win every play.

GMScud · 01-09-2013, 05:28 PM

I agree. Keep it going. It was unstoppable. Like you said, his injuries didn't happen running the RO. Also, you've got to think we'll upgrade the O-line to help those pocket passing situations too. A lot of our schemes this year put lipstick on a pig so to speak with regard to the quality of our O-line. They did a fine job zone-blocking for the running game, but the truth is they leave a lot to be desired as far as straight up pass-pro.

Ruhskins · 01-09-2013, 06:40 PM

Keep running it...although I wonder how long until NFL defenses can catch up? Still, kinda hard to defend it when you have a running-QB who can pass and not a QB like Tebow.

los panda · 01-09-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Keep running it...although I wonder how long until NFL defenses can catch up? Still, kinda hard to defend it when you have a running-QB who can pass and not a QB like Tebow.

holla

budw38 · 01-09-2013, 07:41 PM

I wouldn't scrap it , but wouldn't use it as often . upgrade the OL and we can line up and run downhill , not to mention better pass protection .

MTK · 01-09-2013, 07:51 PM

I think you can mix it in, but I think the natural evolution of the offense needs to continue to move away from it. You can still take advantage of his athleticism with the boots and play action off that.

Coff · 01-09-2013, 07:59 PM

It's been pointed out that a few of RG's injuries happened not on the read option but when he had to scramble. So the problem has more to do with what JoeRedskin mentioned, that he needs to develop finer instincts regarding when to slide or get out of bounds.

Two other things worth mentioning; first, we relied on the read option more after Davis went down. Assuming we re-sign him, the offense has one more weapon to use that lease a the importance of the option. Secondly, Shanny has mentioned nervous times that RG's potential goes far beyond what has heretofore been utilized in the offense, and (as Mattyk pointed out) the offense will continue to evolve with Griffin.

los panda · 01-09-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think you can mix it in, but I think the natural evolution of the offense needs to continue to move away from it. You can still take advantage of his athleticism with the boots and play action off that.

matty, when he comes back, he's going to be drew bledsoe

SmootSmack · 01-09-2013, 09:10 PM

Not two weeks ago we (well I at least) were praising the brilliance of the read option and how it completely neutralized Ware and the Dallas Cowboys.

I say keep it as part of the repertoire. More teams I think will use more before the Redskins use it less in my opinion

MTK · 01-09-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by los panda

matty, when he comes back, he's going to be drew bledsoe

We'll be transitioning to the Statue of Liberty offense

Hog1 · 01-09-2013, 09:48 PM

.......in West Virginia

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-09-2013, 09:54 PM

Only idiots who don't know what they're talking about think the read option offense somehow puts rg3 at greater risk of injury. As long as the offense works, keep running it.

Monkeydad · 01-10-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Keep running it...although I wonder how long until NFL defenses can catch up? Still, kinda hard to defend it when you have a running-QB who can pass and not a QB like Tebow.

Idea. Cut Rex and get Tebow for QB3. Dead serious.

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

We'll be transitioning to the Statue of Liberty offense

We need taller receivers. Bring back Marco Mitchell and Malcolm Kelly.

donofriose · 01-10-2013, 09:56 AM

Should not be a staple of the offense, but would be a good play to use on 2nd on 4 or short 2nd downs. Obviously the less hits Griffin takes the better. In my opinion he should only keep it if there is a wide open field and the DE crashes down, otherwise if its a staple of the offense teams will just start going right after griffin and making sure to hit him, even if it costs them a flag every once in a while, similar to what the Patriots did to Tebow when they tried to do it against the Pats. The Patriots just sent a DE only responsible for Tebow and every time he handed it off right away he would be hit.

01-09-2013, 04:45 PM	#1
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	To Read Option, or Not I may be in the minority on this, but I do not believe Shanny should abandon the read option. By the middle of the season, Griffin was so good at reading defensive ends, that when he opted to keep the ball, he always seemed to get 10+ yards untouched before either sliding or scampering out of bounds. Fact of the matter, his concussion against Atlanta and his initial LCL injury against Baltimore came when a passing play broke down, and he tried to get too much out of his legs instead of throwing the ball away or sliding earlier. It's on Griffin to get better at protecting himself in those situations. What became clear to me is that a healthy Griffin running read option out of the pistol paralyzes even the most dominant defensive ends, forcing them to read then react. I strongly believe that if we run a normal pocket passing attack, Griffin will take more hits from the likes of JPP, Umenyiora, Trent Cole, and Demarcus Ware.

01-09-2013, 05:05 PM	#2
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: To Read Option, or Not No disagreement from me. If he learns to slide and get out of bounds, Griffin can run the read all day long. Just like learning to take the sack when there is nowhere to go, however, Griffin needs to learn that sometimes, taking a loss or minimal gain on the R/O is the best play there is - no need to risk injury to win every play. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-09-2013, 05:28 PM	#3
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: To Read Option, or Not I agree. Keep it going. It was unstoppable. Like you said, his injuries didn't happen running the RO. Also, you've got to think we'll upgrade the O-line to help those pocket passing situations too. A lot of our schemes this year put lipstick on a pig so to speak with regard to the quality of our O-line. They did a fine job zone-blocking for the running game, but the truth is they leave a lot to be desired as far as straight up pass-pro. __________________ Tardy

01-09-2013, 06:40 PM	#4
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: To Read Option, or Not Keep running it...although I wonder how long until NFL defenses can catch up? Still, kinda hard to defend it when you have a running-QB who can pass and not a QB like Tebow. __________________ R.I.P. #21

01-09-2013, 07:41 PM	#6
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: To Read Option, or Not I wouldn't scrap it , but wouldn't use it as often . upgrade the OL and we can line up and run downhill , not to mention better pass protection .

01-09-2013, 07:51 PM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: To Read Option, or Not I think you can mix it in, but I think the natural evolution of the offense needs to continue to move away from it. You can still take advantage of his athleticism with the boots and play action off that. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-09-2013, 07:59 PM	#8
Coff Impact Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Halfmoon, NY Posts: 687	Re: To Read Option, or Not It's been pointed out that a few of RG's injuries happened not on the read option but when he had to scramble. So the problem has more to do with what JoeRedskin mentioned, that he needs to develop finer instincts regarding when to slide or get out of bounds. Two other things worth mentioning; first, we relied on the read option more after Davis went down. Assuming we re-sign him, the offense has one more weapon to use that lease a the importance of the option. Secondly, Shanny has mentioned nervous times that RG's potential goes far beyond what has heretofore been utilized in the offense, and (as Mattyk pointed out) the offense will continue to evolve with Griffin.

01-09-2013, 09:10 PM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: To Read Option, or Not Not two weeks ago we (well I at least) were praising the brilliance of the read option and how it completely neutralized Ware and the Dallas Cowboys. I say keep it as part of the repertoire. More teams I think will use more before the Redskins use it less in my opinion __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-09-2013, 09:48 PM	#12
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: To Read Option, or Not .......in West Virginia __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-09-2013, 09:54 PM	#13
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: To Read Option, or Not Only idiots who don't know what they're talking about think the read option offense somehow puts rg3 at greater risk of injury. As long as the offense works, keep running it. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

01-10-2013, 09:56 AM	#15
donofriose The Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,097	Re: To Read Option, or Not Should not be a staple of the offense, but would be a good play to use on 2nd on 4 or short 2nd downs. Obviously the less hits Griffin takes the better. In my opinion he should only keep it if there is a wide open field and the DE crashes down, otherwise if its a staple of the offense teams will just start going right after griffin and making sure to hit him, even if it costs them a flag every once in a while, similar to what the Patriots did to Tebow when they tried to do it against the Pats. The Patriots just sent a DE only responsible for Tebow and every time he handed it off right away he would be hit.

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