Fixing the Secondary

SirLK26 · 02-13-2014, 02:07 PM

As we all well know, the secondary is in need of some help this offseason. So here's where you post your plan for fixing the secondary.

Safety:

Cut/Let Walk: Reed Doughty, Trenton Robinson

Sign in FA: Chris Clemons-1 year, Kendrick Lewis-3 years

Resign: Brandon Meriweather-1 year, Jose Gumbs-1 year

Draft: No one. Unless, of course, Deone Bucannon falls to the 4th. LOL.

UDFAs: Johnathan Dowling, Daniel Sorensen. Obviously, any projected UDFA can easily be drafted, but assuming these two aren't, I'd love to bring them in to compete for depth.

Cornerback

Cut/Let Walk: Josh Wilson, E.J. Biggers

Sign in FA: Alterraun Verner-5 years, Chris Owens-1 year

Resign: DeAngelo Hall-2 years

Draft: Ricardo Allen

UDFAs: Phillip Gaines, Dexter McDougle

DynamiteRave · 02-13-2014, 02:12 PM

I can agree with all of this except we absolutely need to cut Meriweather and I'd rather keep Doughty.

NC_Skins · 02-13-2014, 02:14 PM

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Cut/Let Walk: Reed Doughty,

Hell no. He's the one bright spot in the group. I'd much rather have him than BM.

SirLK26 · 02-13-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I can agree with all of this except we absolutely need to cut Meriweather and I'd rather keep Doughty.

Well, I'm sure many fans agree that Meriweather needs to go. But my thinking is that he can stay on a 1 year deal and compete with Clemons for the starting SS spot. He played well near the end of last year, and he's our hardest hitter. And if you release Meriweather and Clemons gets hurt, then you have Thomas, who is practically a rookie, starting. I want depth in the secondary, particulary safety, this next year.

Ruhskins · 02-13-2014, 02:18 PM

Doughty is a solid backup and a very good special teams player. Unless his play starts to decline or we can find someone to fit both roles, I'm okay keeping him.

I think the team needs to part ways with Merriweather, but as long as we have a solid replacement.

diehardskin2982 · 02-13-2014, 03:36 PM

At Corner:
re-sign DeAngelo Hall and E.J. Biggers
Sign Tracy Porter or Sam Shields
Draft Shaquille Richardson

At Safety:
FS Jairus Byrd and SS Chris Clemmons
sign Taylor Mays
resign Reed Doughty

Chico23231 · 02-13-2014, 03:52 PM

Resign hall to a 1 or 2 year deal. Sign Sam shields to a josh Wilson-like deal. Let biggers, wilson walk. Plan on Crawford, Minnefield, and Amerson back.

At SS, let Rambo, Thomas and sign a vet ss to a 1 year deal to fight it out for the position. Sign a vet to a mult-year deal at Free Safety.

Buffalo Bob · 02-13-2014, 04:10 PM

Is there a good pass rusher in the draft? A good pass rush can make a bad secondary look good.

SkinsFanOttawa · 02-13-2014, 04:15 PM

Louis Delmas was just cut by the Lions for salary cap reasons. I am not sure what type of $$ he'll be looking for but I would put him up there right after Byrd as far as top free agent safeties go. I think the Redskins should looking into using some of the money they'd use to sign Meriweather and put it towards signing Delmas instead.

jamf · 02-13-2014, 04:16 PM

Cut Doughty? No! he is one of the very few players that earned his paycheck last year. The veteran minimum for a guy who is consistent and respected by his teammates is worth it.

To fix the secondary, you need to fix the Dline.

SkinsFanOttawa · 02-13-2014, 04:23 PM

Just to clarify Delmas is a strong safety and Byrd is a free safety. Meriweather is naturally a strong safety so that's why I'd much rather have Delmas than him. I'm just not sure what need is greater strong or free.

over the mountain · 02-13-2014, 04:35 PM

add a no 1 corner and a legit starting safety.

I like merriweather and thought he was the only safety who has the ability to play above average and occasionally ball.

doughty is an ideal vet back up on a cheap deal.

we def need another legit safety. someone average to above average at least. the other safety position should not be left up to hoping rambo or thomas make huge improvements.

corner - add a legit no 1, hall at 2 and amerson as the 3 ready to step in in case 1 or 2 gets injured.

Paintrain · 02-13-2014, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

Cut Doughty? No! he is one of the very few players that earned his paycheck last year. The veteran minimum for a guy who is consistent and respected by his teammates is worth it.

To fix the secondary, you need to fix the Dline.

Let's not go overboard on Doughty. He's a solid special teams player and plays the run ok. He can't cover a stationary target. Great team guy, if he comes back on a low money deal and is relegated to special teams only, I'm all for it. He shouldn't get any defensive snaps after the preseason.

skinsfan69 · 02-13-2014, 05:30 PM

The secondary is a mess. Josh Wilson? You have to go! Not a good free agent signing at all. Rambo? I understand getting beat in coverage cause you're a rookie. But why can't you tackle? Merriweather? No fundamentals in tackling. But at least he wants to hit someone. For me it's a simple solution. Improve the pass rush and hope that we get better play from the young guys and the guys that were hurt. I WOULD NOT sign Byrd because we have two drafted guys at safety that need to develop.

SirLK26 · 02-13-2014, 06:26 PM

Doughty is a good backup and ST player, for sure, but he's not good enough to rely on as a starter in case of injury, and he has no upside. I just think we need to move on from him.

02-13-2014, 02:07 PM	#1
SirLK26 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,141	Fixing the Secondary As we all well know, the secondary is in need of some help this offseason. So here's where you post your plan for fixing the secondary. Safety: Cut/Let Walk: Reed Doughty, Trenton Robinson Sign in FA: Chris Clemons-1 year, Kendrick Lewis-3 years Resign: Brandon Meriweather-1 year, Jose Gumbs-1 year Draft: No one. Unless, of course, Deone Bucannon falls to the 4th. LOL. UDFAs: Johnathan Dowling, Daniel Sorensen. Obviously, any projected UDFA can easily be drafted, but assuming these two aren't, I'd love to bring them in to compete for depth. Cornerback Cut/Let Walk: Josh Wilson, E.J. Biggers Sign in FA: Alterraun Verner-5 years, Chris Owens-1 year Resign: DeAngelo Hall-2 years Draft: Ricardo Allen UDFAs: Phillip Gaines, Dexter McDougle

02-13-2014, 02:12 PM	#2
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: Fixing the Secondary I can agree with all of this except we absolutely need to cut Meriweather and I'd rather keep Doughty. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

02-13-2014, 02:18 PM	#5
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: Fixing the Secondary Doughty is a solid backup and a very good special teams player. Unless his play starts to decline or we can find someone to fit both roles, I'm okay keeping him. I think the team needs to part ways with Merriweather, but as long as we have a solid replacement. __________________ R.I.P. #21

02-13-2014, 03:36 PM	#6
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Fixing the Secondary At Corner: re-sign DeAngelo Hall and E.J. Biggers Sign Tracy Porter or Sam Shields Draft Shaquille Richardson At Safety: FS Jairus Byrd and SS Chris Clemmons sign Taylor Mays resign Reed Doughty __________________ That got ugly fast

02-13-2014, 03:52 PM	#7
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,022	Re: Fixing the Secondary Resign hall to a 1 or 2 year deal. Sign Sam shields to a josh Wilson-like deal. Let biggers, wilson walk. Plan on Crawford, Minnefield, and Amerson back. At SS, let Rambo, Thomas and sign a vet ss to a 1 year deal to fight it out for the position. Sign a vet to a mult-year deal at Free Safety. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

02-13-2014, 04:10 PM	#8
Buffalo Bob The Starter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Beaverdam Virginia Age: 64 Posts: 2,137	Re: Fixing the Secondary Is there a good pass rusher in the draft? A good pass rush can make a bad secondary look good.

02-13-2014, 04:15 PM	#9
SkinsFanOttawa Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 17	Re: Fixing the Secondary Louis Delmas was just cut by the Lions for salary cap reasons. I am not sure what type of $$ he'll be looking for but I would put him up there right after Byrd as far as top free agent safeties go. I think the Redskins should looking into using some of the money they'd use to sign Meriweather and put it towards signing Delmas instead. __________________ "Sometimes it's not what you get for your team, it's what you're willing to give for them" - Robert Griffin III

02-13-2014, 04:16 PM	#10
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,348	Re: Fixing the Secondary Cut Doughty? No! he is one of the very few players that earned his paycheck last year. The veteran minimum for a guy who is consistent and respected by his teammates is worth it. To fix the secondary, you need to fix the Dline.

02-13-2014, 04:23 PM	#11
SkinsFanOttawa Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 17	Re: Fixing the Secondary Just to clarify Delmas is a strong safety and Byrd is a free safety. Meriweather is naturally a strong safety so that's why I'd much rather have Delmas than him. I'm just not sure what need is greater strong or free. __________________ "Sometimes it's not what you get for your team, it's what you're willing to give for them" - Robert Griffin III

02-13-2014, 04:35 PM	#12
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Fixing the Secondary add a no 1 corner and a legit starting safety. I like merriweather and thought he was the only safety who has the ability to play above average and occasionally ball. doughty is an ideal vet back up on a cheap deal. we def need another legit safety. someone average to above average at least. the other safety position should not be left up to hoping rambo or thomas make huge improvements. corner - add a legit no 1, hall at 2 and amerson as the 3 ready to step in in case 1 or 2 gets injured.

02-13-2014, 05:30 PM	#14
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Fixing the Secondary The secondary is a mess. Josh Wilson? You have to go! Not a good free agent signing at all. Rambo? I understand getting beat in coverage cause you're a rookie. But why can't you tackle? Merriweather? No fundamentals in tackling. But at least he wants to hit someone. For me it's a simple solution. Improve the pass rush and hope that we get better play from the young guys and the guys that were hurt. I WOULD NOT sign Byrd because we have two drafted guys at safety that need to develop.

02-13-2014, 06:26 PM	#15
SirLK26 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,141	Re: Fixing the Secondary Doughty is a good backup and ST player, for sure, but he's not good enough to rely on as a starter in case of injury, and he has no upside. I just think we need to move on from him.

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