From Mort's Chat (9/8/05)

BrudLee · 09-08-2005, 11:48 AM

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Nate (Houston): Mort, Last year alot of media were saying that Gibbs would have the ship righted by year 2, but this year 90% of the media have picked the Redskins to be bad again this year. What is your take? I think they have the potential to shock alot of people and win 10 games.

Chris Mortensen: (11:08 AM ET ) As we've gotten closer to the openers, I now list the Redskins as one of my potential "sleepers." Does that mean 10 wins? I guess it could but I don't see that many.

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Chris (Seattle): Who is your "sleeper team" in both the AFC and NFC to be this years "bolts"?? Meaning they go from a horrible record, to a winning record and a playoff/wild card berth??

Chris Mortensen: (11:42 AM ET ) Well, those teams are the Cowboys, Redskins & Giants....the Cardinals... the Bengals...the Titans...and maybe the Bucs.

It's not exactly "on board", but he's not using us as a punchline...

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-08-2005, 01:19 PM

I'd love to see how the Skins, Cowboys AND Giants all are going to go to the playoffs. That would be quite a feat.

gortiz · 09-08-2005, 01:31 PM

Now, this makes me happy cause I really respect Mort.

I hate the Eagles, really dislike the Cowboys and have no feelings about the Giants, but it would be cool if the latter two went to the playoffs, of cousre with us included ...

MTK · 09-08-2005, 02:16 PM

I know last year was pretty dismal, but it's really surprising to me to see how many people are so down on the Skins this year.

I mean it is Joe Gibbs we're talking about. It's amazing that so many have been so quick to write him off. We're also talking about a top ranked D led by Gregg Williams.

Of course we're a little biased here, but I'm just having a hard time seeing a team that won't be improved in 2005.

Schneed10 · 09-08-2005, 04:07 PM

I've always found Mort to be the most unbiased of all the ESPN experts. I like Golic too. But Mort doesn't hit you with any bias, he has nothing against Dan Snyder like Pastabelly, King, and Z do. He just calls it as he sees it.

He's not always right, but it's not like the experts are ever right. I agree with Mort on this one, the Skins have an opportunity to surprise people. Whether they will or not is up in the air, depends on turnovers, but you can't write them off to make the playoffs.

Schneed10 · 09-08-2005, 04:08 PM

PS Anybody feeling the Buccaneers a little bit? They might be pretty solid. I still think a lot of Gruden, and Cadillac looks like the real deal. They still have Griese though, that's a big strike against them.

la73hof · 09-08-2005, 04:23 PM

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Don't expect to see too much of Bears rookie running back Cedric Benson on Sunday. With Kyle Orton at the controls, it's a safe bet the Washington Redskins will send blitz after blitz. Putting Benson on the field too much could get Orton pummeled because the rookie running back may not have enough experience in blitz pickup and pass protection.
-- Daily Herald

Coach Lovie Smith would not shed any more light on his plans for running back Cedric Benson in the Bears' opener Sunday at Washington. The No. 4 pick suited up in full pads for the first time Wednesday and got in some limited hitting.
-- Chicago Sun-Times

Hopefully on special teams

What a biatch

MTK · 09-08-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

PS Anybody feeling the Buccaneers a little bit? They might be pretty solid. I still think a lot of Gruden, and Cadillac looks like the real deal. They still have Griese though, that's a big strike against them.

I can definitely see them being a surprise this year. Griese played pretty well for them last year, Cadillac Williams should be a great back for them, and Clayton was a nice find for them last year at WR.

I've always loved Gruden too.

skinsfanthru&thru · 09-08-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

PS Anybody feeling the Buccaneers a little bit? They might be pretty solid. I still think a lot of Gruden, and Cadillac looks like the real deal. They still have Griese though, that's a big strike against them.

I personally don't see them doing much and would have them ranked 3rd best in their own division behind Atlanta and Carolina and could slip behind New Orleans if NO plays up to their potential with the motivation to play well with what's happened down there.

monk81 · 09-08-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I know last year was pretty dismal, but it's really surprising to me to see how many people are so down on the Skins this year.

I mean it is Joe Gibbs we're talking about. It's amazing that so many have been so quick to write him off. We're also talking about a top ranked D led by Gregg Williams.

Of course we're a little biased here, but I'm just having a hard time seeing a team that won't be improved in 2005.

What floors me is all the respect the Giants seem to get, with an unproven QB, yet the knock on the Skins with the media is Ramsey......go figure.....

That Guy · 09-09-2005, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by monk81

What floors me is all the respect the Giants seem to get, with an unproven QB, yet the knock on the Skins with the media is Ramsey......go figure.....

its cause eli was a #1 pick, his brother is peyton and the team around him is pretty bad, so if he's marginal, he's not going to be the worst part of their team...

STPainmaker · 09-09-2005, 01:29 AM

Mort's really hedging his bets by picking 6 sleepers.

12thMan · 09-09-2005, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

PS Anybody feeling the Buccaneers a little bit? They might be pretty solid. I still think a lot of Gruden, and Cadillac looks like the real deal. They still have Griese though, that's a big strike against them.

I really don't like teh Bucs this year either. I personally think, and this just me, that Gruden is a little overated. I think most would agree that he took over Dungy's team and basically won the Superbowl....granted he did great things in Oakland before.

But I feel the defense is losing a step because of age and no real upgrades. And I'm not too impressed with Griese.

Beemnseven · 09-09-2005, 09:19 AM

The problem with the Bucs is QB and the division they're in. You also have to wonder just how long their defense is going to stay in the top five.

Anybody else think this has got to be the year for the Colts? You'd have figured that by now, Tony Dungy being the defensive wizard he is would have turned that defense around. I figure if they can get homefield advantage, and the Patriots falter a bit, it could be the Colts in the Super Bowl.

Schneed10 · 09-09-2005, 11:07 AM

I laid a bet on the Colts to win the Super Bowl while I was in Vegas in August. At that point their odds were 6.5 - 1, which was good for 3rd best in the league. Now I believe Vegas is favoring them.

I definitely like them this year. The secondary is getting some decent playmakers. And Freeney and Simon make for a nice combo up front. I don't think the defense will be anything special, but probably better than it has been in the past.

09-08-2005, 01:19 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) I'd love to see how the Skins, Cowboys AND Giants all are going to go to the playoffs. That would be quite a feat. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-08-2005, 01:31 PM	#3
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) Now, this makes me happy cause I really respect Mort. I hate the Eagles, really dislike the Cowboys and have no feelings about the Giants, but it would be cool if the latter two went to the playoffs, of cousre with us included ... __________________ "If people are underestimating us," Jansen said, "there will be a rude awakening this year."

09-08-2005, 02:16 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) I know last year was pretty dismal, but it's really surprising to me to see how many people are so down on the Skins this year. I mean it is Joe Gibbs we're talking about. It's amazing that so many have been so quick to write him off. We're also talking about a top ranked D led by Gregg Williams. Of course we're a little biased here, but I'm just having a hard time seeing a team that won't be improved in 2005.

09-08-2005, 04:07 PM	#5
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) I've always found Mort to be the most unbiased of all the ESPN experts. I like Golic too. But Mort doesn't hit you with any bias, he has nothing against Dan Snyder like Pastabelly, King, and Z do. He just calls it as he sees it. He's not always right, but it's not like the experts are ever right. I agree with Mort on this one, the Skins have an opportunity to surprise people. Whether they will or not is up in the air, depends on turnovers, but you can't write them off to make the playoffs.

09-08-2005, 04:08 PM	#6
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) PS Anybody feeling the Buccaneers a little bit? They might be pretty solid. I still think a lot of Gruden, and Cadillac looks like the real deal. They still have Griese though, that's a big strike against them.

09-09-2005, 01:29 AM	#12
STPainmaker Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 524	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) Mort's really hedging his bets by picking 6 sleepers. __________________ REDSKINS FOR LIFE BEEETCH!!!!

09-09-2005, 09:19 AM	#14
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) The problem with the Bucs is QB and the division they're in. You also have to wonder just how long their defense is going to stay in the top five. Anybody else think this has got to be the year for the Colts? You'd have figured that by now, Tony Dungy being the defensive wizard he is would have turned that defense around. I figure if they can get homefield advantage, and the Patriots falter a bit, it could be the Colts in the Super Bowl.

09-09-2005, 11:07 AM	#15
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: From Mort's Chat (9/8/05) I laid a bet on the Colts to win the Super Bowl while I was in Vegas in August. At that point their odds were 6.5 - 1, which was good for 3rd best in the league. Now I believe Vegas is favoring them. I definitely like them this year. The secondary is getting some decent playmakers. And Freeney and Simon make for a nice combo up front. I don't think the defense will be anything special, but probably better than it has been in the past.

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