Secondary help and Returner in the Draft

j_j__l · 01-24-2006, 02:56 AM

With not having a #1 pick, i know we may not get a starter...but has anyone thought about Hester if he falls to our 3rd or 4th round picks...I know he will need alot of work on Deffense, but he would ad depth and speed and youth to a needed possition...and he would be a GREAT pick up for Special teams, where he can earn his Roster spot for 2 years before, we Springs is done and then he slides to the #2 CB spot opposite of Rogers. What do you guys think????

70Chip · 01-24-2006, 03:24 AM

One guy that I was impressed with this year and I don't even know if hes a senior or what. He may be a freshmen for all I know but he was impressive to me. Chancey Stuckey from Clemson. Did anyone else see him this year? Also the other Moss from Miami. The first starting brother wr tandem in history.

Redskins8588 · 01-24-2006, 03:37 AM

I think that we should try a 3rd round pick on little Moss. I mean he is blazing fast, I think I read somewhere that when they played backyard football Santana and his brother had to be on opposite teams because they were the only two that could cover each other. To go along with his speed is his returning abliities, I have heard however that his hands are not as good as big brothers. I say we pick him, use him on special teams and groom him to be a WR, also if he is as fast as they say that will be hard to cover him and Santana...

Darrell_Green_28 · 01-24-2006, 04:50 AM

Don't we have a 2nd round pick?

j_j__l · 01-24-2006, 07:30 AM

We have a 2nd round pick...and I wouldn't mind getting Mosses brother, but as of right now they are expecting him to go early in the 2nd...before we pick...and I really wouldn't want 2 of the same type of WR's...I dont think they would complement each other as well as we would like.

dmek25 · 01-24-2006, 07:36 AM

do you guys want moss because of his name?he wasnt the go to guy in miami,and mel kiper predicted he was at best a late pick(not in the first 2 rounds)

Redskins8588 · 01-24-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

do you guys want moss because of his name?he wasnt the go to guy in miami,and mel kiper predicted he was at best a late pick(not in the first 2 rounds)

I heard the same thing about him being a late pick thats why I said 3rd round.

FRPLG · 01-25-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I heard the same thing about him being a late pick thats why I said 3rd round.

A third rounder should be able to contribute now and be a starter by the second half of his second season. I would say any first day picks(rounds 1,2 or 3) are quality players and shouldn't be used for "chances" or "flyers". Not that he is a flyer. Just wanted to state that I think 3rd rounders need to be solid prospects and not just guys with speed or size. They needed to have done something in college worth taking them on the first day. I am concerned that Moss wasn't even the #1 guy in Miami. He wasn't too special. Contrast him to what his brother did when he was there. Santana was IT. The dude did everything. The only reason he wasn't a top 3 pick was his size.

Big C · 01-24-2006, 07:37 AM

we just kind of need another reciever, and having 2 mosses would mean that it would be near impossible to blanket both, leaving one open

j_j__l · 01-24-2006, 07:39 AM

I think people like the name and his speed...but i would rather find a Solid Possesion WR, that has speed...this way Patten can be on one side, Moss can move around in the slot...and the other WR (J.Jurvicous)can command some kind of coverage (Warm Body)that none of the other WR on our roster could....

Beemnseven · 01-24-2006, 08:22 AM

As far as secondary help goes, do you guys remember our interest in Jeremetrius Butler from the Rams a couple of years back? He was an RFA, and the Rams wound up matching our offer, but I'm wondering if he's an UFA now. Then again, they probably signed him to a long term deal.

I think it's still vital to add maybe one more solid prospect in the secondary. Springs has been solid for us, but sometimes his health can be an issue, and Williams' defense depends heavily on cornerbacks.

j_j__l · 01-24-2006, 08:33 AM

That's what i was trying to bring up...GW, needs depth at secondary.This past year we did it with alot of Vet. Safties...but you know he would like someone faster then Harris as the nickle and a mix of youth for depth at CB...that's why i brought up Hester..and he could EASILY replace Brown as our KR and PR next year and be our Dime CB for the next 2 years and then move to Nickle or # 2 CB with Rogers when Springs leaves via CAP or Retire.

Beemnseven · 01-24-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by j_j__l

That's what i was trying to bring up...GW, needs depth at secondary.This past year we did it with alot of Vet. Safties...but you know he would like someone faster then Harris as the nickle and a mix of youth for depth at CB...that's why i brought up Hester..and he could EASILY replace Brown as our KR and PR next year and be our Dime CB for the next 2 years and then move to Nickle or # 2 CB with Rogers when Springs leaves via CAP or Retire.

I thought Hester would be considered a Round 1 prospect.

skinspt-11 · 01-24-2006, 03:52 PM

Hester Doesn't even want to play CB. Thats why he moved to WR. Plus he wasn't good a CB. Kiper has Moss as a top 32 player on his chart. So Moss may not even make it to our 2nd round pick.

FRPLG · 01-25-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by skinspt-11

Hester Doesn't even want to play CB. Thats why he moved to WR. Plus he wasn't good a CB. Kiper has Moss as a top 32 player on his chart. So Moss may not even make it to our 2nd round pick.

Where did you see Kiper having Moss so high?

01-24-2006, 03:37 AM	#3
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft I think that we should try a 3rd round pick on little Moss. I mean he is blazing fast, I think I read somewhere that when they played backyard football Santana and his brother had to be on opposite teams because they were the only two that could cover each other. To go along with his speed is his returning abliities, I have heard however that his hands are not as good as big brothers. I say we pick him, use him on special teams and groom him to be a WR, also if he is as fast as they say that will be hard to cover him and Santana... __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

01-24-2006, 04:50 AM	#4
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Robert, Louisiana Age: 57 Posts: 2,119	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft Don't we have a 2nd round pick?

01-24-2006, 07:30 AM	#5
j_j__l Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 72	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft We have a 2nd round pick...and I wouldn't mind getting Mosses brother, but as of right now they are expecting him to go early in the 2nd...before we pick...and I really wouldn't want 2 of the same type of WR's...I dont think they would complement each other as well as we would like. __________________ World wide traveling SKINS FAN

01-24-2006, 07:36 AM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft do you guys want moss because of his name?he wasnt the go to guy in miami,and mel kiper predicted he was at best a late pick(not in the first 2 rounds)

01-24-2006, 07:37 AM	#9
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft we just kind of need another reciever, and having 2 mosses would mean that it would be near impossible to blanket both, leaving one open __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

01-24-2006, 02:56 AM	#1
j_j__l Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 72	Secondary help and Returner in the Draft With not having a #1 pick, i know we may not get a starter...but has anyone thought about Hester if he falls to our 3rd or 4th round picks...I know he will need alot of work on Deffense, but he would ad depth and speed and youth to a needed possition...and he would be a GREAT pick up for Special teams, where he can earn his Roster spot for 2 years before, we Springs is done and then he slides to the #2 CB spot opposite of Rogers. What do you guys think???? __________________ World wide traveling SKINS FAN

01-24-2006, 03:24 AM	#2
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft One guy that I was impressed with this year and I don't even know if hes a senior or what. He may be a freshmen for all I know but he was impressive to me. Chancey Stuckey from Clemson. Did anyone else see him this year? Also the other Moss from Miami. The first starting brother wr tandem in history. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-24-2006, 07:39 AM	#10
j_j__l Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 72	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft I think people like the name and his speed...but i would rather find a Solid Possesion WR, that has speed...this way Patten can be on one side, Moss can move around in the slot...and the other WR (J.Jurvicous)can command some kind of coverage (Warm Body)that none of the other WR on our roster could.... __________________ World wide traveling SKINS FAN

01-24-2006, 08:22 AM	#11
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft As far as secondary help goes, do you guys remember our interest in Jeremetrius Butler from the Rams a couple of years back? He was an RFA, and the Rams wound up matching our offer, but I'm wondering if he's an UFA now. Then again, they probably signed him to a long term deal. I think it's still vital to add maybe one more solid prospect in the secondary. Springs has been solid for us, but sometimes his health can be an issue, and Williams' defense depends heavily on cornerbacks.

01-24-2006, 08:33 AM	#12
j_j__l Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 72	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft That's what i was trying to bring up...GW, needs depth at secondary.This past year we did it with alot of Vet. Safties...but you know he would like someone faster then Harris as the nickle and a mix of youth for depth at CB...that's why i brought up Hester..and he could EASILY replace Brown as our KR and PR next year and be our Dime CB for the next 2 years and then move to Nickle or # 2 CB with Rogers when Springs leaves via CAP or Retire. __________________ World wide traveling SKINS FAN

01-24-2006, 03:52 PM	#14
skinspt-11 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Secondary help and Returner in the Draft Hester Doesn't even want to play CB. Thats why he moved to WR. Plus he wasn't good a CB. Kiper has Moss as a top 32 player on his chart. So Moss may not even make it to our 2nd round pick.

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