Foxsports Wide Receiver/Tight End Rankings

steveo395 · 07-15-2006, 04:08 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5785564

This thing is retarded...how could they put the redskins 13th...they are at least top 5

and look at the teams they put ahead of us, it's rediculous...and they don't even give good reasons

That Guy · 07-15-2006, 06:04 PM

lloyd and el aren't really proven and our QB isn't peyton manning. I disagree with it a bit too though. dallas, pittsburg, NE and SD are too high, KC might be (but its hard to argue based on the numbers). NE and pittsburg have no #2s right now yet both make the top 10? rookie WRs tend to suck (though randy moss and anquan boldin did well).

That Guy · 07-15-2006, 06:30 PM

"Sinorice Moss may hope to be his brother, but that is about as likely as Eli Manning being as good as his brother."

MightyJoeGibbs · 07-15-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

"Sinorice Moss may hope to be his brother, but that is about as likely as Eli Manning being as good as his brother."

I really hope Eli and my boy sinorice suffer from Billy Ripken Disorder and never hold a stat toward their brothers.

MTK · 07-15-2006, 06:37 PM

Dallas #1?

C'mon

5RINGS · 07-15-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Dallas #1?

C'mon

Why not?

TO is top four - even if you can't stand him you can't name four better WR in the L.

Glenn led the league in Yards per catch.

Witten is a Top 5 TE.

Can anyone else match that?

KC probably yeah might be better, Indy probably, might be better, Seattle? not with those drops and without Jurivicious.

But Dallas isn't out of the equation.

Is Washington better than 13th?

I think so but it hinges on EL and Lloyd. Cooley and Moss are top level up where mamma keeps the peanut butter, but I am not sold on EL and Lloyd. I think they are two #3 recievers.

steveo395 · 07-15-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Why not?

TO is top four - even if you can't stand him you can't name four better WR in the L.

Glenn led the league in Yards per catch.

Witten is a Top 5 TE.

Can anyone else match that?

KC probably yeah might be better, Indy probably, might be better, Seattle? not with those drops and without Jurivicious.

But Dallas isn't out of the equation.

Is Washington better than 13th?

I think so but it hinges on EL and Lloyd. Cooley and Moss are top level up where mamma keeps the peanut butter, but I am not sold on EL and Lloyd. I think they are two #3 recievers.

Randle El might be a #3 receiver, but no way Lloyd is. I think it is amazing that he put up those numbers with quarterbacks who were that bad. Hey remember when Lloyd put up 142 and 2 tds week 3 against the cowboys. Then he had Alex Smith starting 7 games and Cody Pickett starting 2 games...so thats 9 games where its pretty much not possible to do well. Lloyd still had 2 other 100 yard games when he didn't have these two terrible qbs. He was also the only receiving threat that they had, so he always had the best people covering him. He is definitely a legitimate #2 receiver, which is all that he has to be.

People also said that Moss was only a #3 receiver.

hooskins · 07-16-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

Randle El might be a #3 receiver, but no way Lloyd is. I think it is amazing that he put up those numbers with quarterbacks who were that bad. Hey remember when Lloyd put up 142 and 2 tds week 3 against the cowboys. Then he had Alex Smith starting 7 games and Cody Pickett starting 2 games...so thats 9 games where its pretty much not possible to do well. Lloyd still had 2 other 100 yard games when he didn't have these two terrible qbs. He was also the only receiving threat that they had, so he always had the best people covering him. He is definitely a legitimate #2 receiver, which is all that he has to be.

People also said that Moss was only a #3 receiver.

Exactly Moss had one decent season with the NYJ, and after that people considered he was washed up, etc. If you remember the trade with Coles, every Skins fan was pissed and unsure about Moss. The media gave the SKins and Danny Boy alotta shit for such a bad trade. But Gibbs saw potential and I guess that is all that really matters. He saw potential with Lloyd, because of his good performance with shitty QB's. If you compare the Lloyd pickup to getting Moss last year, the Lloyd pickup looks much better at this point in time, so hopefully Lloyd will blossom into a good reciever for our system.

That Guy · 07-16-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Exactly Moss had one decent season with the NYJ, and after that people considered he was washed up, etc. If you remember the trade with Coles, every Skins fan was pissed and unsure about Moss. The media gave the SKins and Danny Boy alotta shit for such a bad trade. But Gibbs saw potential and I guess that is all that really matters. He saw potential with Lloyd, because of his good performance with shitty QB's. If you compare the Lloyd pickup to getting Moss last year, the Lloyd pickup looks much better at this point in time, so hopefully Lloyd will blossom into a good reciever for our system.

according to football outsiders, santana moss has been crazy good (top 10-15) for at least the last 3 years... WAY WAY WAY above coles et al.

wolfeskins · 07-16-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Why not?

TO is top four - even if you can't stand him you can't name four better WR in the L.

1-marvin harrison
2-chad johnson
3-steve smith
4-santana moss

i'd take any of those 4 over T.O

until last year, randy moss, was also considered better than T.O

5RINGS · 07-16-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

1-marvin harrison
2-chad johnson
3-steve smith
4-santana moss

i'd take any of those 4 over T.O

until last year, randy moss, was also considered better than T.O

Harrison isn't even the best WR on his team anymore.
Chad Johnson is getting into the top 5 but he is not there yet.
No arguement on steve smith
Santana Moss has had one (1) year at the Top 5 level. If he can continue to play at that level, he is top 5 no doubt. But he needs to show more than one year.

Reggie Wayne
Torry Holt
Steve Smith
TO

Coming up fast behind those four are,
Randy Moss
Santana Moss
Chad Johnson
Fitzgerald

5RINGS · 07-16-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Harrison isn't even the best WR on his team anymore.
Chad Johnson is getting into the top 5 but he is not there yet.
No arguement on steve smith
Santana Moss has had one (1) year at the Top 5 level. If he can continue to play at that level, he is top 5 no doubt. But he needs to show more than one year.

Reggie Wayne
Torry Holt
Steve Smith
TO

Coming up fast behind those four are,
Randy Moss
Santana Moss
Chad Johnson
Fitzgerald

I looked at this list again and I thought that it is really hard to pick a top four. I don't have Boldin in there, I don't have Harrison there.

Really it is Smith first then a pack of about 10 players
johnson
TO
Moss
Moss
Fitz
Boldin
Harrison
Wayne
Holt
Ward

After Smith, it is easy to make a case for almost all of those guys for 2-4.

Giantone · 07-17-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Harrison isn't even the best WR on his team anymore.
Chad Johnson is getting into the top 5 but he is not there yet.
No arguement on steve smith
Santana Moss has had one (1) year at the Top 5 level. If he can continue to play at that level, he is top 5 no doubt. But he needs to show more than one year.

Reggie Wayne
Torry Holt
Steve Smith
TO

Coming up fast behind those four are,
Randy Moss
Santana Moss
Chad Johnson
Fitzgerald

\\\

You're only the best if you play and why didn't TO play last year ?You also need a QB that can get the ball to him,Cowboys are done and it will only take 1 TO blowup.:smashfrea

TheInspector · 07-17-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Harrison isn't even the best WR on his team anymore.

Why do you think Harrison isn't the best WR on the Colts?

Monkeydad · 07-17-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Why not?

TO is top four - even if you can't stand him you can't name four better WR in the L.

Glenn led the league in Yards per catch.

Witten is a Top 5 TE.

Can anyone else match that?

KC probably yeah might be better, Indy probably, might be better, Seattle? not with those drops and without Jurivicious.

Don't forget they have Bledsoe throwing to them...that CAN'T help. Owens is overrated...he's only good when he wants to be and that's not very often.

We are DEFINATELY better than this stupid ranking stated.

07-15-2006, 06:37 PM	#5
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07-15-2006, 04:08 PM	#1
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Foxsports Wide Receiver/Tight End Rankings http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5785564 This thing is retarded...how could they put the redskins 13th...they are at least top 5 and look at the teams they put ahead of us, it's rediculous...and they don't even give good reasons __________________

07-15-2006, 06:04 PM	#2
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Foxsports Wide Receiver/Tight End Rankings lloyd and el aren't really proven and our QB isn't peyton manning. I disagree with it a bit too though. dallas, pittsburg, NE and SD are too high, KC might be (but its hard to argue based on the numbers). NE and pittsburg have no #2s right now yet both make the top 10? rookie WRs tend to suck (though randy moss and anquan boldin did well).

07-15-2006, 06:30 PM	#3
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Foxsports Wide Receiver/Tight End Rankings "Sinorice Moss may hope to be his brother, but that is about as likely as Eli Manning being as good as his brother."

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