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RedskinRat · 06-30-2004, 03:38 PM

I've just been told by a co-worker that the Redskins are looking to swap a offensive tackle for Ogunleye according to ESPN.

Anyone heard something about this?

Redskins_P · 06-30-2004, 03:47 PM

Where did you hear this? I wonder which tackle they're talking about.

MonkManiac · 06-30-2004, 03:53 PM

Better be Samuels.

memphisskin · 06-30-2004, 04:01 PM

Could be Samuels, with Brunell the starter the left side is the strong side now. I don't see it happening, but the guy can rush the passer and we do need that element on our d-line.

SKINSnCANES · 06-30-2004, 04:44 PM

that wold leave us a big whole at tackle. I trust Bugel though,a nd we would still have our first round pick then. I assume. Ya never know what Synder might throw in though.

Big C · 06-30-2004, 04:54 PM

bad trade. not worth it. keep both tackles and lets see how we do

MonkManiac · 06-30-2004, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

bad trade. not worth it. keep both tackles and lets see how we do

We've had both tackles for a couple of years now, and all I keep seeing is our QB getting sacked. Coaching will help, but Samuels has shown us he is far from irreplacable. If anything, the strong coaching of Bugel makes Samuels more expendable than in previous years. A young, pass-rushing DE is something we haven't had in a long, long time.

That said, who knows if this rumor is actually true...

ChillWill · 06-30-2004, 04:57 PM

That's not a good trade. I don't believe there is any substance to that.

Samuels has far more value than Ogunleye.

SKINSnCANES · 06-30-2004, 05:01 PM

Define more value. No one would give a first round pick for sameuls when we thougth about dealing him, plenty of peopel would give up a first of Ogunleye. Samuels has had what, two or three bad years in a row and giving up a lot of sacks. Ogunleye lead the AFC in sacks last year. As a straight up trade we get teh better player, doesnt mean we shoudl do the trade, but you brought up value. Why do you think Samuels has more value?

RedskinRat · 06-30-2004, 05:07 PM

But has anyone else got wind of this rumor or are the boys having a pop at me again?

Redskins_P · 06-30-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

But has anyone else got wind of this rumor or are the boys having a pop at me again?

I've been checking left and right eversince you posted this. I haven't come across anything yet.

As bad as Samuels has played the last few years, I would hate to see him go and become a great player somewhere else. I think he deserves another chance to prove himself under this new system.

MonkManiac · 06-30-2004, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

I've been checking left and right eversince you posted this. I haven't come across anything yet.

As bad as Samuels has played the last few years, I would hate to see him go and become a great player somewhere else. I think he deserves another chance to prove himself under this new system.

That's right, we don't want to see the Redskins become the Wizards...

Shane · 06-30-2004, 08:11 PM

There is no way I would make that trade. I believe in Chris Samuels. I throw out the last couple of years because of the system used - abysmally incompatible with NFL realities. Samuels will return to the Pro Bowl, possibly this year.

The fact is we can't patch every leak in this team overnight. There is always an Ogunleye out there, and if the timing and price are right, fine, sign him up.

Don't believe the baseless rumors. That agent Rosenhaus is trying to create a buyers climate for his client. You can't trust anything he says. The rumors are a lot of smoke signifying nothing.

Daseal · 06-30-2004, 05:07 PM

Because Samuels has nothing but a man rushing. Oguneleyeybnenenye has Jason Taylor and one of the strongest LB cores in the league. Not to mention, we all know that Samuels has the potential to be a devastating blocker, and now that we actually have an offensive line coach... Not to mention, we want to give our offense every option in the world.

ChillWill · 06-30-2004, 05:11 PM

SkinsNCanes,

Good question, I did not make my point clearly. I believe that Samuels, when performing to his potential, which I think Buges will bring out of him, will play at a higher level than Ogunleye. Ogunleye benefitted greatly from his counterpart on that Dolphins line. I'm not convinced that he will be as effective on our line.

Samuels has a lot to prove this year and I believe he will be a legit Pro Bowler for the first time in his career, this season.

06-30-2004, 03:38 PM	#1
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Rumor I've just been told by a co-worker that the Redskins are looking to swap a offensive tackle for Ogunleye according to ESPN. Anyone heard something about this?

06-30-2004, 04:44 PM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	that wold leave us a big whole at tackle. I trust Bugel though,a nd we would still have our first round pick then. I assume. Ya never know what Synder might throw in though. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

06-30-2004, 05:01 PM	#9
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Define more value. No one would give a first round pick for sameuls when we thougth about dealing him, plenty of peopel would give up a first of Ogunleye. Samuels has had what, two or three bad years in a row and giving up a lot of sacks. Ogunleye lead the AFC in sacks last year. As a straight up trade we get teh better player, doesnt mean we shoudl do the trade, but you brought up value. Why do you think Samuels has more value? __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

06-30-2004, 03:47 PM	#2
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	Where did you hear this? I wonder which tackle they're talking about.

06-30-2004, 03:53 PM	#3
MonkManiac Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA/DC Age: 42 Posts: 180	Better be Samuels.

06-30-2004, 04:01 PM	#4
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Could be Samuels, with Brunell the starter the left side is the strong side now. I don't see it happening, but the guy can rush the passer and we do need that element on our d-line.

06-30-2004, 04:54 PM	#6
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	bad trade. not worth it. keep both tackles and lets see how we do

06-30-2004, 04:57 PM	#8
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 70 Posts: 151	That's not a good trade. I don't believe there is any substance to that. Samuels has far more value than Ogunleye.

06-30-2004, 05:07 PM	#10
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	But has anyone else got wind of this rumor or are the boys having a pop at me again?

06-30-2004, 08:11 PM	#13
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	There is no way I would make that trade. I believe in Chris Samuels. I throw out the last couple of years because of the system used - abysmally incompatible with NFL realities. Samuels will return to the Pro Bowl, possibly this year. The fact is we can't patch every leak in this team overnight. There is always an Ogunleye out there, and if the timing and price are right, fine, sign him up. Don't believe the baseless rumors. That agent Rosenhaus is trying to create a buyers climate for his client. You can't trust anything he says. The rumors are a lot of smoke signifying nothing.

06-30-2004, 05:07 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Because Samuels has nothing but a man rushing. Oguneleyeybnenenye has Jason Taylor and one of the strongest LB cores in the league. Not to mention, we all know that Samuels has the potential to be a devastating blocker, and now that we actually have an offensive line coach... Not to mention, we want to give our offense every option in the world.

06-30-2004, 05:11 PM	#15
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 70 Posts: 151	SkinsNCanes, Good question, I did not make my point clearly. I believe that Samuels, when performing to his potential, which I think Buges will bring out of him, will play at a higher level than Ogunleye. Ogunleye benefitted greatly from his counterpart on that Dolphins line. I'm not convinced that he will be as effective on our line. Samuels has a lot to prove this year and I believe he will be a legit Pro Bowler for the first time in his career, this season.

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