Steve Czaban Article

[Bill B]

Here is a link to a new Stece Czaban article (sorry if someone already posted it).

OnMilwaukee.com Sports: It's enough to make a Redskins fan sick

What I found interesting in the article was this tibit

"Here's a little factoid that may interest you: since Dan Snyder took over in 1999, not a single high-priced free agent he has brought in has made the Pro Bowl. (NOTE: 2005 Pro-Bowlers Portis and Moss were traded for, remember. Give something to get something.)"

[SmootSmack]

Yeah well it's a travesty that Marcus Washington didn't make it the past couple of years. And as long as the Romos of the world are getting Pro Bowl nods then that game carries no weight.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, I wouldn't mention the Pro Bowl as any measure of talent.

Britney's cooch could make the Pro Bowl if it had a few good games.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yeah, I wouldn't mention the Pro Bowl as any measure of talent.

Britney's cooch could make the Pro Bowl if it had a few good games.

i would be willing to bet that cooch HAS had more then a few good games

[MTK]

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004.

Well then. There you go

[MTK]

Just for kicks here are our Pro Bowl selections since Snyder took over.

2000: Alexander, Bailey, Coleman, Davis

2001: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels

2002: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels

2003: Arrington, Bailey, Coles

2004: Washington

2005: Moss, Samuels

2006: Samuels

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just for kicks here are our Pro Bowl selections since Snyder took over.

2000: Alexander, Bailey, Coleman, Davis

2001: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels

2002: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels

2003: Arrington, Bailey, Coles

2004: Washington

2005: Moss, Samuels

2006: Samuels

Well, just for kicks:

Records for those years...

2000 8-8
2001 8-8
2002 7-9
2003 5-11
2004 6-10
2005 10-6
2006 5-11

Totals since Snyder started building his teams 49-63.

Let's not forget the general premise of Czaban's article.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Well, just for kicks:

Records for those years...

2000 8-8
2001 8-8
2002 7-9
2003 5-11
2004 6-10
2005 10-6
2006 5-11

Totals since Snyder started building his teams 39-63.

Let's not forget the general premise of Czaban's article.

Unless my math is wrong Snyder's win-loss record is 49-63. It still sucks and illustrates that given his involvement he's definitely not helping build a winning team.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004.

I guess Czab should do his research before his posts his article.

I will say though even if the Redskins are bad for 6 more years I will still be a fan that is emotionally attached to the team - I just feel bad for the season ticket holders that are locked in for 5 years and have to keep paying higher and higher prices to support all these moves.

[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit.

Washington wasn't considered a high priced Pro Bowl blockbuster when he was signed like AA, B. Smith or D. Sanders. He was added as a solid pickup and nothing more kind-of a "role player"...his career didn't take off till after he signed with the 'Skins (a rarity nowdays).

[MTK]

Originally Posted by squrrelco3

Washington wasn't considered a high priced Pro Bowl blockbuster when he was signed like AA, B. Smith or D. Sanders. He was added as a solid pickup and nothing more kind-of a "role player"...his career didn't take off till after he signed with the 'Skins (a rarity nowdays).

Washington signed a 6 year deal worth $25M and a bonus of $7M. Sorry but that's a little more than just a solid pickup or a role player. He was pretty highly regarded coming over from Indy.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit.

But was Washington a "high priced" free agent? I always thought he was more of a fair priced free agent.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story...

[Beemnseven]

Yep, and the fact of the matter is -- since Dan Snyder took over, his team has a losing record.