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Tiered minimum wage?
Hey guys, thought I'd run an idea a colleague and several others were discussing...
The subject of minimum wage and education came up. One guy brought up an idea that minimum wage should be tiered to represent your education level. Ungraduated from high school would be the base, GED would be the next level and high school diploma would be next. The idea would be to encourage students to at least finish their high school education. Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
Naw...I don't buy that one at all. For a lot of different reasons really. But I think the current system works well.
People haven't finished high school for a lot of different reasons, so bringing them in at lower rate could actually be a disincentive to finish high school. |
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
Actually the thought is raising the rate for the GED and HS graduates, the current base rate would be for non-high school graduates.
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
All I know is the current min. wage rate is a joke. Let's get it raised to a decent level first and go from there. It's not a livable wage as is.
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
Personally I think it should be, or at least a lot closer to being a livable wage than it is now.
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
Not necessary...most minimum wage jobs are FOR non-high school graduates anyways. There's no reason to have any qualification system for minimum wage and really, no reason to raise it. Working at these jobs are not permament arrangements, not intended for or used for raising a family (mostly kids looking for their first job or a summer job and retired people looking for something to do take the jobs) and it would actually hurt the entire US economy to raise the min wage. It would force the employers and businesses to raise prices to make up for their lost profits from the government-mandated payroll expense. McDonald's wouldn't pay for the rate hike, their customers would. Also, it would make a lot of employers have to cut the number of minimum wage employees they can afford to keep, so the "feel good" political tactic of raising the minimum wage would end up puttting a lot of the people they want to help out of work instead. We haven't even gotten into the higher-paid employees' demands of raises to stay the same "value" ahead of the kids at the counter or cleaning the windows.
If you have ANY skills at all, you can do better than a minimum wage job. Sure there are a lot of kids having babies, but they better not be relying on burger-flipping to support the child. |
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
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But you are right, minimum wage is not intended to support a family, and it should not be expected by anyone to do so.
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That ain't right. The world is 14.8% more expensive to live in today than it was 7 years ago. There needs to be an adustment made. It's not a boost by any means, it's just to get them back to where they were 7 years ago.
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
I didn't even get a 1% percent raise last year. I expressed my opinion during the yearly review about that. Two months later 35 employees were layed off, mostly irrelevant and overpaid territory sales staff. So, I decided to give them another chance...
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
Let's see what happens when the Senate gets a hold of this...
'100 hours': House passes minimum wage hike - CNN.com
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
Most jobs these days start at well above the minimum wage, so it really shouldn't be an issue.
As Buster said, minimum wage is not intended to be a livable wage. It's routinely for kids working part time while in high school/college to earn a few bucks. It should be incentive for those making minimum wage to bust their asses to make more money. I almost equate it to the newer grading systems in school...trying to get everyone to pass so they don't feel the negativity of failing. Raising the minimum wage will only help those people squeek by instead of working harder to gain their own incentives.
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Re: Tiered minimum wage?
They do something like this in Europe and some countries factor in age as well.
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