Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin

SmootSmack · 01-22-2007, 10:38 PM

Just 31 years old. A week ago he's thinking he'll be offensive coordinator of the Raiders. Next thing you know he's head coach

ESPN.com - NFL - Raiders zero in on coach, have deal with USC's Kiffin

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 01-22-2007, 11:02 PM

I guess all I can say is...at least we're not the raiders

Duffman003 · 01-22-2007, 11:21 PM

meh, you never know about coaches

FRPLG · 01-22-2007, 11:49 PM

Talk about second choice.

Wonder what his dad thinks after spending his whole career toiling as an assistant and his kid goes and gets a big dance job from the guy on the moon? So does anyne think this won't be a total disaster? He's supposed to manage this team that is in disarray? The team is in total chemistry melt down with no leadership from within and a guy who is younger than a 1/3 of the team is going to come in a demand respect and lead them? Brilliant!

mooby · 01-23-2007, 12:02 AM

You know, I'd give him a shot. There is plenty of undiscovered coaching talent out there waiting for their shot. I thought Sean Payton was a worthless assistant that should've stayed with the Cowboys before the season but look what he did. Anything has to be better then Art Shell though. At least the Raiders have the first pick in the draft to build around though. The Raiders already have their defense set, or at least it would appear so. All they need is some help on the offense.

FRPLG · 01-23-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

The Raiders already have their defense set, or at least it would appear so. All they need is some help on the offense.

Their defense was an abberation. They played the pass well because everyone ran on them constantly and they were always losing. They need some help there two. They are nowhere near a team that can win 8 games.

GTripp0012 · 01-23-2007, 12:05 AM

It's a good choice.

Davis had to scramble to find just a candidate; ended up landing a young offensive mind with a pedigree. Now there is talk that Sarkisian could join the team as the O Coordinator. Anyway, this probably turned out as well as a Raider coaching search possibly could.

mooby · 01-23-2007, 12:09 AM

Well I just checked the stats and while Oakland did have the 24th ranked run defense, they still had the #3 defense in the entire NFL. So they are doing something right on that team. It's not much to gloat about but if they can get some help in terms of offense and run defense they will be better.

FRPLG · 01-23-2007, 12:35 AM

Notice Indy and Oakland are 2 and 1 is passing d. Then notice the attempts. They had the least amount of attempts against them of any team in the league also. The fact that their run d was so bad was a main reason their pass d was so 'good'. I am not saying their pass wasn't decent. Just that the stats don't tell the whole story. Watching them several times made realize just how bad their run d was and just how under challenged their pass d was.

It also made me want to poke my eyes out. But that's a whole other issue.

GTripp0012 · 01-23-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Notice Indy and Oakland are 2 and 1 is passing d. Then notice the attempts. They had the least amount of attempts against them of any team in the league also. The fact that their run d was so bad was a main reason their pass d was so 'good'. I am not saying their pass wasn't decent. Just that the stats don't tell the whole story. Watching them several times made realize just how bad their run d was and just how under challenged their pass d was.

It also made me want to poke my eyes out. But that's a whole other issue.

Pass defense ratings are always flawed by those crazy attempts. But that 24th against the run figure is also skewed by attempts. I don't think they were the 3rd best defense in the NFL. More like somewhere between 8th and 10th. Still, theres no basis to say it was an abberation (outside of opinion), when they have one of the better secondaries in the NFL.

mooby · 01-23-2007, 12:41 AM

That's a good point. I'm not denying they are the worst team in the league. I just think that they have a shot at being a 7 or 8 win team next year, provided they try to make themselves better through free agency and the draft.

dmek25 · 01-23-2007, 05:01 AM

maybe this weakens tampa bay, too. maybe the old man goes to oakland to run their defense

That Guy · 01-23-2007, 12:08 PM

the raiders have drafted a lot of speed (in fact, when making a mock draft, only look at the 40 times, and you know who the raiders are taking months ahead of time).

I don't think a guy coming straight from college into his first gig under that owner has much of a chance. If they win 8 games i'd be completely floored... they'll get a joke schedule too.

skinsfan69 · 01-23-2007, 12:15 PM

HORRIBLE HIRE!!!!!!! What are the Raiders thinking? AL DAVIS IS SUCH A TOOL. He just wants a coach that he can push around. He would never hire anyone that demands respect. How is a 31 year old punk with barely any NFL experience going to command respect in the locker room? And don't give me comparisions to Mangini. At least Mangini coached under Belichick for several years. I'm sure the vets are just laughing. Raiders are the worst run team in the NFL. Even worse than us.

01-22-2007, 10:38 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin Just 31 years old. A week ago he's thinking he'll be offensive coordinator of the Raiders. Next thing you know he's head coach ESPN.com - NFL - Raiders zero in on coach, have deal with USC's Kiffin __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-22-2007, 11:02 PM	#2
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 40 Posts: 896	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin I guess all I can say is...at least we're not the raiders

01-22-2007, 11:49 PM	#4
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin Talk about second choice. Wonder what his dad thinks after spending his whole career toiling as an assistant and his kid goes and gets a big dance job from the guy on the moon? So does anyne think this won't be a total disaster? He's supposed to manage this team that is in disarray? The team is in total chemistry melt down with no leadership from within and a guy who is younger than a 1/3 of the team is going to come in a demand respect and lead them? Brilliant!

01-23-2007, 12:02 AM	#5
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin You know, I'd give him a shot. There is plenty of undiscovered coaching talent out there waiting for their shot. I thought Sean Payton was a worthless assistant that should've stayed with the Cowboys before the season but look what he did. Anything has to be better then Art Shell though. At least the Raiders have the first pick in the draft to build around though. The Raiders already have their defense set, or at least it would appear so. All they need is some help on the offense.

01-23-2007, 12:05 AM	#7
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin It's a good choice. Davis had to scramble to find just a candidate; ended up landing a young offensive mind with a pedigree. Now there is talk that Sarkisian could join the team as the O Coordinator. Anyway, this probably turned out as well as a Raider coaching search possibly could. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

01-22-2007, 11:21 PM	#3
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 602	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin meh, you never know about coaches __________________ give me food, feed me lunch 'you want water?', B#### give me punch - D12

01-23-2007, 12:09 AM	#8
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin Well I just checked the stats and while Oakland did have the 24th ranked run defense, they still had the #3 defense in the entire NFL. So they are doing something right on that team. It's not much to gloat about but if they can get some help in terms of offense and run defense they will be better.

01-23-2007, 12:35 AM	#9
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin Notice Indy and Oakland are 2 and 1 is passing d. Then notice the attempts. They had the least amount of attempts against them of any team in the league also. The fact that their run d was so bad was a main reason their pass d was so 'good'. I am not saying their pass wasn't decent. Just that the stats don't tell the whole story. Watching them several times made realize just how bad their run d was and just how under challenged their pass d was. It also made me want to poke my eyes out. But that's a whole other issue.

01-23-2007, 12:41 AM	#11
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin That's a good point. I'm not denying they are the worst team in the league. I just think that they have a shot at being a 7 or 8 win team next year, provided they try to make themselves better through free agency and the draft.

01-23-2007, 05:01 AM	#12
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin maybe this weakens tampa bay, too. maybe the old man goes to oakland to run their defense __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

01-23-2007, 12:08 PM	#13
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin the raiders have drafted a lot of speed (in fact, when making a mock draft, only look at the 40 times, and you know who the raiders are taking months ahead of time). I don't think a guy coming straight from college into his first gig under that owner has much of a chance. If they win 8 games i'd be completely floored... they'll get a joke schedule too.

01-23-2007, 12:15 PM	#14
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Raiders Reach Agreement with USC's Lane Kiffin HORRIBLE HIRE!!!!!!! What are the Raiders thinking? AL DAVIS IS SUCH A TOOL. He just wants a coach that he can push around. He would never hire anyone that demands respect. How is a 31 year old punk with barely any NFL experience going to command respect in the locker room? And don't give me comparisions to Mangini. At least Mangini coached under Belichick for several years. I'm sure the vets are just laughing. Raiders are the worst run team in the NFL. Even worse than us.

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