Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure?

[5RINGS]

Largely considered to be the leading candidate for the Dallas HC position, I wondered what the feeling was regarding Norville and his time in Washington. He was 7-6 the year he got fired (and had lost his last three games by 6 points)

Every Cowboys fan is watching Tape from the Aikman-Smith-irvin glory days and booking SB trips next year.

I seem to remember Washington not being too sad to see Norv leave.

[mooby]

I wasn't sad to see him leave. He brought us like one playoff trip in 6 years, and never produced up to expectations. I think he's better suited to being an offensive coordinator then a head coach.

[CrazyCanuck]

Failure.

Not a complete disaster but a failure IMO.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Failure.

Not a complete disaster but a failure IMO.

I second that.

"...booking superbowl trips..." haha.

[12thMan]

I tend to agree with CC. I think Norv is a solid coach, but in two coaching stints he hasn't really compiled anything of note. However, he was working for Al Davis and an inexperieced Dan Snyder.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I tend to agree with CC. I think Norv is a solid coach, but in two coaching stints he hasn't really compiled anything of note. However, he was working for Al Davis and an inexperieced Dan Snyder.

I agree,I think you can throw out the record in oakland,and turner is the only coach to get us to playoffs since gibbs first go round,if we would have had a decent fg kicker,we would have made the playoffs at least once more under norv,maybe twice.
I personally think norv has an undeserved reputation as sucking

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree,I think you can throw out the record in oakland,and turner is the only coach to get us to playoffs since gibbs first go round,if we would have had a decent fg kicker,we would have made the playoffs at least once more under norv,maybe twice.
I personally think norv has an undeserved reputation as sucking

I agree with you.... I still respect Norvo

[firstdown]

I think his stay here was about three years too long. Other coaches have failed and came back to prove they can be a head coach but I would not hang may hat on Norve. I like for everyone to succeed in life but not as a player or coach in our division.

[jamf]

I think he did ok.

When he arrived, the team was at the very beginning of the rebuilding stages.
Then he had to deal with a bunch of bad draft picks, Desmond Howard, Shular, and Westbrook. If they had lived up to the hype...

The team had to rebuild the whole offensive line, The WR Corp and find a QB.
I truly believe that if Dan Turk makes a clean snap in the Buccs playoff game, We win the superbowl that year( 99). We would've played the Rams in the championship game, Green, Bailey and Dishman would've shut down Holt and Bruce. So So Close.

and his stint with the raiders, Well everyone is going to fail with Al Davis in charge.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by jamf

I think he did ok.

When he arrived, the team was at the very beginning of the rebuilding stages.
Then he had to deal with a bunch of bad draft picks, Desmond Howard, Shular, and Westbrook. If they had lived up to the hype...

The team had to rebuild the whole offensive line, The WR Corp and find a QB.
I truly believe that if Dan Turk makes a clean snap in the Buccs playoff game, We win the superbowl that year( 99). We would've played the Rams in the championship game, Green, Bailey and Dishman would've shut down Holt and Bruce. So So Close.

and his stint with the raiders, Well everyone is going to fail with Al Davis in charge.

Agree, but i just remember thinking that we'll never in a million years hit that FG. I can't remember who was our kicker, but i wasn't too confident.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by jamf

I think he did ok.

When he arrived, the team was at the very beginning of the rebuilding stages.
Then he had to deal with a bunch of bad draft picks, Desmond Howard, Shular, and Westbrook. If they had lived up to the hype...

The team had to rebuild the whole offensive line, The WR Corp and find a QB.
I truly believe that if Dan Turk makes a clean snap in the Buccs playoff game, We win the superbowl that year( 99). We would've played the Rams in the championship game, Green, Bailey and Dishman would've shut down Holt and Bruce. So So Close.

and his stint with the raiders, Well everyone is going to fail with Al Davis in charge.

Norv had a lot of say in a couple of those picks, namely Shuler & Westbrook. I think he screwed up both.
I remember hoping we draft Sapp & we took Westbrook. Norv decided to go w/Frerotte instead of Shuler & I know that Gus is still playing, but Shuler was playing just as well at the time. I thought Norv gave up on him too soon.
Norv has probably not recieved enough grief for being partially responsible for Art Monk's departure. Monk was ready to sign the Skin's offer, but Norv said his roster spot was already gone.
In all fairness, he put together some decent offenses here & it wasn't all his fault that some of those teams sucked. But if it weren't for the timing of JKC's death, Norv would've been fired after the awful 98 season.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Norv had a lot of say in a couple of those picks, namely Shuler & Westbrook. I think he screwed up both.
I remember hoping we draft Sapp & we took Westbrook. Norv decided to go w/Frerotte instead of Shuler & I know that Gus is still playing, but Shuler was playing just as well at the time. I thought Norv gave up on him too soon.
Norv has probably not recieved enough grief for being partially responsible for Art Monk's departure. Monk was ready to sign the Skin's offer, but Norv said his roster spot was already gone.
In all fairness, he put together some decent offenses here & it wasn't all his fault that some of those teams sucked. But if it weren't for the timing of JKC's death, Norv would've been fired after the awful 98 season.

There were alot of "experts" who thought alot of Shuler coming out of college. It was Shuler and Dilfer.

I was sad to see Monk in a Jets uni, but it was probably time for him to hang it up. Its rare to see a player play for one team his entire career (Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, etc.).

[dmek25]

there are coaches in this league that are great co coordinators, and once they make the next step, for one reason or another, they fail. some men are meant to be head coaches, some aren't. i think turner is an above average offensive co coordinator. as a head coach, well.....

[dmek25]

and welcome back 5rings

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by dmek25

and welcome back 5rings

Thanks.


Tell you the truth, I can't stand the Cowboys boards right now. No one is talking about the senior bowl/draft/Super Bowl.

it is all coaching all the time.

And I think that Coaching is the one area of Professional Football that the Fans know the least about. So much of what they do goes on behind the scenes.

And I don't care who you hire as the Defensive Coordinator it just doesn't put any sizzle into the off season for me.

Unless that guy is also going to play shutdown Free Safety....

I'm happy to be here where fans are talking about the Players for the most part.