If we do draft Gaines Adams where do we put him?

[Dirtbag59]

Gaines Adams seems like he would fit in nicely here in Washington. I mean who wouldn't want a dominant college end that runs in the 4.6 range (4.64 to be exact) whos childhood dream seems to be playing for the Washington Redskins.

The problem is that Gaines is considered undersized for a defensive end. Also consider the fact that the organization is pretty happy with Andre Carter on the right side (usually used for speed rushers). I mean maybe he could be our own version of Lenord Little (undersized Left DE) but he was complimented by Grant Winstrom during the Rams super bowl run.

So my question is if we do draft Gaines Adams where do we put him?

[GoSkins!]

Next to Randy Thomas at lunch.

He needs help from a professional eater.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Not trying to be a jerk, but did you really need to start a 3rd thread about Gaines Adams?

[holcknowsbest]

if we draft him you have to put him opposite phillip daniels on 1st and 2nd down then bring in carter for daniels on third downs....use him in situations...maybe drop daniels down inside with griffin and line up with adams, griff, daniels, carter.....thats how i see it going down if we draft a defensive end who is 260

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Gaines Adams seems like he would fit in nicely here in Washington. I mean who wouldn't want a dominant college end that runs in the 4.6 range (4.64 to be exact) whos childhood dream seems to be playing for the Washington Redskins.

The problem is that Gaines is considered undersized for a defensive end. Also consider the fact that the organization is pretty happy with Andre Carter on the right side (usually used for speed rushers). I mean maybe he could be our own version of Lenord Little (undersized Left DE) but he was complimented by Grant Winstrom during the Rams super bowl run.

So my question is if we do draft Gaines Adams where do we put him?

If we draft him, he's got to go behind Andre Carter on the depth chart. We simply can't afford to play both of them. They will have to compete for the starting job (that's not a bad thing).

Draft Branch (or Okoye).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we draft him, he's got to go behind Andre Carter on the depth chart. We simply can't afford to play both of them. They will have to compete for the starting job (that's not a bad thing).

Draft Branch (or Okoye).

He would take Daniels position at LDE

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we draft him, he's got to go behind Andre Carter on the depth chart. We simply can't afford to play both of them. They will have to compete for the starting job (that's not a bad thing).

Draft Branch (or Okoye).

that is crazy we could play them both look at the cols robert mathis and dwight freeney they both start oposite each other and they each had 10 plus sacks in 2005 we can do that carter and adams would create alot of pressure and cause alot of interceptions for carlos rogers (if he can hold on to them) sean taylor, and hopefully nate clements

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we draft him, he's got to go behind Andre Carter on the depth chart. We simply can't afford to play both of them. They will have to compete for the starting job (that's not a bad thing).

Draft Branch (or Okoye).

that is crazy we could play them both look at the colts robert mathis and dwight freeney they both start oposite each other and they each had 10 plus sacks in 2005 we can do that carter and adams would create alot of pressure and cause alot of interceptions for carlos rogers (if he can hold on to them) sean taylor, and hopefully nate clements

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

that is crazy we could play them both look at the colts robert mathis and dwight freeney they both start oposite each other and they each had 10 plus sacks in 2005 we can do that carter and adams would create alot of pressure and cause alot of interceptions for carlos rogers (if he can hold on to them) sean taylor, and hopefully nate clements

Do you really want to strive to be a lesser version of the Colts defense?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Do you really want to strive to be a lesser version of the Colts defense?

Hey they did win the SB and they played great in the postseason.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hey they did win the SB and they played great in the postseason.

True enough, but I've gotta agree with GTripp, I don't like the idea of two pure-pass rushers lined up as our DEs. It might be good for the pass rush, but hurt our already porous run-defense.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hey they did win the SB and they played great in the postseason.

That unit did a heck of a job 4 weeks in a row.

But they clearly overachieved the standard they set for themselves through the entire regular season.

I am hesitant to believe that the Colts defensive system will work for a prolonged period of time without the talent.

[70Chip]

Could we please get off this idea that Adams and Carter are the same player or even comparable. One is a consensus top ten pick and the other was a cast off from a team that won like three games.

Everybody wanted Branch but 1. Like me, the coaches know we don't need a DT as badly as a DE and, 2. it turns out Branch is lazy.

I still say they should trade down though.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Could we please get off this idea that Adams and Carter are the same player or even comparable. One is a consensus top ten pick and the other was a cast off from a team that won like three games.

Everybody wanted Branch but 1. Like me, the coaches know we don't need a DT as badly as a DE and, 2. it turns out Branch is lazy.

I still say they should trade down though.

I think that if Adams hits his potential he will be better than Carter vs. both the pass and the run.

But the point remains that he would be replacing Andre Carter, not helping him. Replacing Carter means 10 million MORE pissed away on top of Archuleta's 10 mil and Lloyd's 10 mil.

We don't have the money to keep wasting. We can't afford to not get SOME return on our 2006 investment. We have to make this Carter thing work.

I don't like it, but its the bed we made for ourselves.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Could we please get off this idea that Adams and Carter are the same player or even comparable. One is a consensus top ten pick and the other was a cast off from a team that won like three games.

They're obviously not exactly alike, but they're definately comparable. Both are speed rushers (I heard Adams called himself as much at the combine), both are about 260 lbs., and neither is known for being stout against the run. I don't see how comparisons can't be drawn. Moreover, I doubt that Adams is particularly strong when he is willing to run the 40 because speed is his strength and is unwilling to do the bench press. His failure to take part in the bench press exercise simply adds to the perception that he is not exactly strong (at least as far as Pro DEs go).

I don't doubt that Adams will have a good career. I don't doubt that Adams is a good pass-rushing DE. But, I do doubt that Adams and Carter would be an effective duo at stopping the run. He seems like more of an OLB in a 3-4 alignment than a true, every-down 4-3 DE.