Quarterback Legends

wilsowilso · 08-19-2007, 10:53 PM

They rarely suffer season ending injuries. I think part of the elite skill set lies in the fact that they sense danger just a split second before even a very good quarterback might. There are some exceptions(McNabb is a Hall of Famer IMO and he has caught some bad breaks), but looking at the best of the best it seems that they have an uncanny ability to avoid the season ending injury. Any thoughts?

backrow · 08-19-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

They rarely suffer season ending injuries. I think part of the elite skill set lies in the fact that they sense danger just a split second before even a very good quarterback might. There are some exceptions(McNabb is a Hall of Famer IMO and he has caught some bad breaks), but looking at the best of the best it seems that they have an uncanny ability to avoid the season ending injury. Any thoughts?

Only in your IMO, not mine.

bigSkinsfan61 · 08-19-2007, 11:59 PM

mostly you are correct. I remember clearly when sonny jurgensen got hurt.It was his achillies tendon, and was done for the year. maybe this was just an isloated incident. Being a good redskins fan i just had to post a reply to this thread

jsarno · 08-20-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

They rarely suffer season ending injuries. I think part of the elite skill set lies in the fact that they sense danger just a split second before even a very good quarterback might. There are some exceptions(McNabb is a Hall of Famer IMO and he has caught some bad breaks), but looking at the best of the best it seems that they have an uncanny ability to avoid the season ending injury. Any thoughts?

Yes and no. I do agee with that to an extent, but look at Marino. He ruptured his achilles...so it can happen to anyone.
I also think that a good QB is made from a good line...so if you have a good line not only are you racking up numbers, but you're not being sacked often.

Show me a good qb and I'll show you a good or great line.

ps- No freakin way is McNabb a HOFer right now. Not even close.

dmek25 · 08-20-2007, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Yes and no. I do agee with that to an extent, but look at Marino. He ruptured his achilles...so it can happen to anyone.
I also think that a good QB is made from a good line...so if you have a good line not only are you racking up numbers, but you're not being sacked often.

Show me a good qb and I'll show you a good or great line.

ps- No freakin way is McNabb a HOFer right now. Not even close.

they usually work hand in hand. the good qback using the time he has, and knowing when to get rid of the ball. good thought, jsarno

jsarno · 08-20-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

they usually work hand in hand. the good qback using the time he has, and knowing when to get rid of the ball. good thought, jsarno

Thank you sir.
Hopefully our line can duplicate what they did last year for Campbell. If they do, we could see some really good things.

BigSKINBauer · 08-20-2007, 06:52 AM

Jason campbell has legs of steel. I didn't really see the hit at the stadium but watching the game over at home i can't believe he didn't tear anything.

JC=QB legend.

JoeRedskin · 08-20-2007, 01:29 PM

It kind of is a chicken and the egg thing. Are the great QB's only great b/c they were fortunate enough to not suffer a bad injury? OR Can a great QB avoid injury due to his talent and training?

IMO - Injuries are just part of the set of factors that determine the "legendary" status of any player. Many factors that permit a player to play well for a long time are controllable by the player - attitude, conditioning, film study. However, many factors are beyond a player's control - teammates, coaching, injuries. Yes, ability sometimes can overcome bad teammates, coaching and/or injuries but that, IMO, is extremely rare.

As with any great achievement - even those that appear to be based on individual achievement, luck and circumstances play a large part of any QB becoming "legendary". Would Peyton be as good as he is if he hadn't had quality receivers - Could he have succeeded with Atlanta's or Jacksonville's receiving corp or would he simply have been an Archie Manning redux (i.e. good QB on bad team)? What if Culpepper hadn't torn up his knee, was that something he could have avoided or just bad luck? Would Marino have been great if his teams had had a poruous line or would his quick release have saved him?

I think many "legendary" QB's got lucky and that, for the most part, injuries are beyond the control of any player.

08-19-2007, 10:53 PM	#1
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Quarterback Legends They rarely suffer season ending injuries. I think part of the elite skill set lies in the fact that they sense danger just a split second before even a very good quarterback might. There are some exceptions(McNabb is a Hall of Famer IMO and he has caught some bad breaks), but looking at the best of the best it seems that they have an uncanny ability to avoid the season ending injury. Any thoughts?

08-19-2007, 11:59 PM	#3
bigSkinsfan61 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: richmond va Age: 64 Posts: 252	Re: Quarterback Legends mostly you are correct. I remember clearly when sonny jurgensen got hurt.It was his achillies tendon, and was done for the year. maybe this was just an isloated incident. Being a good redskins fan i just had to post a reply to this thread __________________ I will choose freewill. alex, geddy, and neil permanent waves 1980"www.rush.com

08-20-2007, 06:52 AM	#7
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Quarterback Legends Jason campbell has legs of steel. I didn't really see the hit at the stadium but watching the game over at home i can't believe he didn't tear anything. JC=QB legend.

08-20-2007, 01:29 PM	#8
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Quarterback Legends It kind of is a chicken and the egg thing. Are the great QB's only great b/c they were fortunate enough to not suffer a bad injury? OR Can a great QB avoid injury due to his talent and training? IMO - Injuries are just part of the set of factors that determine the "legendary" status of any player. Many factors that permit a player to play well for a long time are controllable by the player - attitude, conditioning, film study. However, many factors are beyond a player's control - teammates, coaching, injuries. Yes, ability sometimes can overcome bad teammates, coaching and/or injuries but that, IMO, is extremely rare. As with any great achievement - even those that appear to be based on individual achievement, luck and circumstances play a large part of any QB becoming "legendary". Would Peyton be as good as he is if he hadn't had quality receivers - Could he have succeeded with Atlanta's or Jacksonville's receiving corp or would he simply have been an Archie Manning redux (i.e. good QB on bad team)? What if Culpepper hadn't torn up his knee, was that something he could have avoided or just bad luck? Would Marino have been great if his teams had had a poruous line or would his quick release have saved him? I think many "legendary" QB's got lucky and that, for the most part, injuries are beyond the control of any player. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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