Mike Williams Cut by Raiders

[freddyg12]

Raiders waive struggling WR Williams

I'm in no way suggesting that we pick this guy up. But for all those that wanted him in 05, now's our chance!

[dgack]

6'5", 230 pounds of underachiever who needs a second chance (or is that third chance?) Can he possibly be any worse than Lloyd?

It's easy to write the dude off but the Lions squad he was a part of was not very good at all, and when the Faiders are your "second chance", well...that's not saying much. I have to admit I'm not totally familiar with his struggles, but he didn't go out like Charles Rogers, so there might be something there. And he can't be that expensive.

I would not be at all surprised to see a team like New England who can afford to roll the dice on a dirt-cheap FA, sign a guy like Williams and have him thrive.

[hooskins]

Absolute trash(Williams not you)

[dgack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Absolute trash(Williams not you)

As in, locker room poison? Or is it a case of Westbrookitis (chronic lack of heart)?

[Stacks42]

Well Randy Moss was let go by the Raiders for not having any heart. Look at him now!

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Well Randy Moss was let go by the Raiders for not having any heart. Look at him now!

He's not OR never was a randy moss talent! Trashbag!

[Stacks42]

[quote=skinsfan_nn;371922]He's not OR never was a randy moss talent! Trashbag![/quote]

My point was.. Everyone said that R. Moss was done, he had lost a step. Well everyone was wrong. If given the right opportunity a player with great talent can excel in this league. Is there any doubt that M. Williams has talent, I doubt it. I think he lacks concentration, and motivation. With "the best coaches in the league" shouldnt we be able to get the the most out of this guy? At least a WR that is over 6 ft and under 30 wold be on our team, as a decoy if not a contributor. You can't debat the fact that beyond Moss and El, our WR is pretty mediocre.

And by the way, I hope that wasnt a personal insult.

[dgack]

That's just CRAZY talk!

Besides, he's never done anything.

I mean, besides the 2500 yards and 30 TD's he caught in his first two years at USC, but who looks at college stats?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by dgack

That's just CRAZY talk!

Besides, he's never done anything.

I mean, besides the 2500 yards and 30 TD's he caught in his first two years at USC, but who looks at college stats?

More importantly, who CARES about college stats? Explain exactly how those stats are relevant to a league where every CB is so fast that in order to beat him, your QB needs to get the ball out of his hands BEFORE you make your cut?

Williams is a HORRIBLE route runner. Yes he's big. Yes he has good hands. Yes, his speed is solid. But he has proven to be lazy in the NFL; his route-running has not improved one iota. Just like Brandon Lloyd, QBs simply can't count on him to be where he's supposed to be when running a route. In an Al Saunders system based on timing, Williams would be a disaster.

This isn't college. You can't simply go one-on-one like Palmer and Leinart say; you can't just toss the ball up and let him go get it, because safeties will get there. This is the NFL, where speed is paramount.

I didn't think this idea needed any serious analysis, because everybody and their brother knows that Mike Williams has been a disaster at the NFL level (coming to camp way out of shape in Detroit ring a bell??).

But anyway, there you have it, genuine thought. Now can we lock this thread down, because it has entered the realm of the retarded.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

If Kiffin (who coached MW at USC) is letting him go, I can't imagine that MW has anything to offer.

[MTK]

He's garbage.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He's garbage.

Anybody want to expound on this a little more? I don't understand the vitriol against this guy, other than the obvious "he was an overpaid first round bust".

Like I said, I didn't see any string of incidents with the law, or questions about his health. He's still extremely young, and hasn't ever played for a good pro team.

He may turn out to be a total bust who never catches on (a la Taylor Jacobs) but with the physical attributes the guy has, I don't see who wouldn't want to take a chance on the dude unless he is absolutely a headcase.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by dgack

Anybody want to expound on this a little more? I don't understand the vitriol against this guy, other than the obvious "he was an overpaid first round bust".

Like I said, I didn't see any string of incidents with the law, or questions about his health. He's still extremely young, and hasn't ever played for a good pro team.

He may turn out to be a total bust who never catches on (a la Taylor Jacobs) but with the physical attributes the guy has, I don't see who wouldn't want to take a chance on the dude unless he is absolutely a headcase.

That's pretty much what makes him garbage.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by dgack

Anybody want to expound on this a little more? I don't understand the vitriol against this guy, other than the obvious "he was an overpaid first round bust".

Like I said, I didn't see any string of incidents with the law, or questions about his health. He's still extremely young, and hasn't ever played for a good pro team.

He may turn out to be a total bust who never catches on (a la Taylor Jacobs) but with the physical attributes the guy has, I don't see who wouldn't want to take a chance on the dude unless he is absolutely a headcase.

He hasn't had any run-ins the law and he has been relatively injury-free. However, in Detroit, he had weight problems, didn't have a solid work ethic, and didn't play or practice well. I don't know how he was received in Oakland, but they obviously gave up on the kid. That Kiffin gave up on him says a lot IMO.

I don't think anyone hates the kid, we just think he's overpaid and dumb, lazy, and failing to take advantage of the opportunities afforded to him.

[dgack]

Hey, look, Green Bay is letting Koren "K-Drop" Robinson back on the roster, and that guy's an avowed alcoholic. So Williams has a taste for the buffet? Sign him to a min contract and put performance incentives in there.

Why hate on a guy just because Detroit and Chokeland paid him too much? If we can get him for peanuts and he realizes he's got a chance to play for a quality organization, so much the better. I'd think that anybody we sign at WR from now on would realize that there are legitimate opportunities to become a starting NFL WR3...