How Will Collins Peform Down The Stretch???

[Redskin Warrior]

I think it is possibly we can win out, but now that JC is out for 3-4 weeks at least. It gives the other teams a chance to gameplan for Collins his mobility might be a problem since we do have a banged up o-line. Last night he wasn't stepping up in the pocket and throwing the ball but then again he hasn't playing in real game speed in years so it might be a little rust. How do you think he will do down the stretch of these 3-4 weeks?

[CPAlltheWay012]

i say go mark brunell

i just don't trust collins..

[SFREDSKIN]

I was watching him last night and he seemed a little slow and tends to hold onto the ball a little long (he didn't get sacked). On the positives he knows the system very well, which should help. I just worry that if pressure is applied how he would deal with it.

[squrrelco3]

I'm skeptical...like I mentioned in another thread, there is a reason this guy was a career backup...I have a feeling we might see Brunell again before the end of the season.

[CPAlltheWay012]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I was watching him last night and he seemed a little slow and tends to hold onto the ball a little long (he didn't get sacked). On the positives he knows the system very well, which should help. I just worry that if pressure is applied how he would deal with it.

Yea but he fumbled the ball... I just really hope he keeps it together and puts on an act like we saw last night

[onlycollinsfaninBuf]

Originally Posted by CPAlltheWay012

i say go mark brunell

i just don't trust collins..

Very well. Surprised at how negative the Redskins fans are on this board after the game Collins had.

But that is what I expected of Collins. I am Bills fan and think that getting rid of Collins was the worst move I had ever seen by this franchise, giving up picks to get the unproven Johnson, wasting millions of dollars, and setting us back for years. Collins would still be starting in Buffalo if the Bills hadn't blown it. I believe he would have been a pro bowl caliber quarterback.

During his 2nd year in the league he had to play (when Kelly was hurt) for three weeks, and Collins played great football--extremely accurate, fearless in the pocket, and smart with the football.

The next year he started and, I feel, played very well in the first part of the season, including leading the Bills to one of the biggest comebacks in NFL history. He was the victim of very poor decsions (and coaching) by the Bills.

I can only tell you what he looked like ten years ago, but here it is:

Collins has excellent arm strength and has a great long ball. His passes are very crisp and seem easy to catch as they are well placed.

He is very accurate. I believe he held the Michigan record for accuracy. he has shown it in the preseason on a regular basis. He will show that same accuracy when given a chance in the NFL.

He is unflappable in the pocket, was ever since he started those 3 games in his second year. In responses to this post I have read that he holds on to the ball too long. Well, maybe, but he is always looking down the field and going through his progressions, until he is out of time. That is what you want in a quarterback. He won't take a lot of bad plays though, gets rid of the ball or runs.

And he moves well, in the pocket and out of it if need be. He has good pocket presence and because of his athleticism and intelligence he is able to get away from pressure.

Very intelligent and you see it in his football.


I remember sitting in Rich Stadium and after a few nice long balls from Collins the old guy in front of me said he throws like Johhny Unitas. I agreed.

Hey, better late than ever. This is your quarterback of the future, even at 36

[MTK]

Originally Posted by onlycollinsfaninBuf

Very well. Surprised at how negative the Redskins fans are on this board after the game Collins had.

But that is what I expected of Collins. I am Bills fan and think that getting rid of Collins was the worst move I had ever seen by this franchise, giving up picks to get the unproven Johnson, wasting millions of dollars, and setting us back for years. Collins would still be starting in Buffalo if the Bills hadn't blown it. I believe he would have been a pro bowl caliber quarterback.

During his 2nd year in the league he had to play (when Kelly was hurt) for three weeks, and Collins played great football--extremely accurate, fearless in the pocket, and smart with the football.

The next year he started and, I feel, played very well in the first part of the season, including leading the Bills to one of the biggest comebacks in NFL history. He was the victim of very poor decsions (and coaching) by the Bills.

I can only tell you what he looked like ten years ago, but here it is:

Collins has excellent arm strength and has a great long ball. His passes are very crisp and seem easy to catch as they are well placed.

He is very accurate. I believe he held the Michigan record for accuracy. he has shown it in the preseason on a regular basis. He will show that same accuracy when given a chance in the NFL.

He is unflappable in the pocket, was ever since he started those 3 games in his second year. In responses to this post I have read that he holds on to the ball too long. Well, maybe, but he is always looking down the field and going through his progressions, until he is out of time. That is what you want in a quarterback. He won't take a lot of bad plays though, gets rid of the ball or runs.

And he moves well, in the pocket and out of it if need be. He has good pocket presence and because of his athleticism and intelligence he is able to get away from pressure.

Very intelligent and you see it in his football.


I remember sitting in Rich Stadium and after a few nice long balls from Collins the old guy in front of me said he throws like Johhy Unitas. I agreed.

Hey, better late than ever. This is your quarterback of the future, even at 36

Welcome to the board! Nice to know there's at least one Collins fan out there.

To address some of your points, we're not all negative. I was impressed as all hell with Collins the other night, I had no idea he had that in him. I'm hoping it wasn't a one time thing, if he can keep playing at that level the Skins will have a good shot at winning out.

I agree that he's accurate but I think his arm strength isn't what it once may have been. Some of his passes floated a bit, but to his credit they were on target.

He did look very cool in the pocket and he definitely knows the offense inside and out. I'm actually more optimistic about these last 3 games with Collins in there than I would have been with Campbell believe it or not.

[Ocliw]

Collins IS more familiar with the system and as far as other teams preparing for him ,he hasn't played enough to really be studied.

The bench curse worries me. How many times have we seen backups come in and play great(Ramsey)just to stink it up the next week.

I know my glass is half empty but after this season who's isn't.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Ocliw

Collins IS more familiar with the system and as far as other teams preparing for him ,he hasn't played enough to really be studied.
The bench curse worries me. How many times have we seen backups come in and play great(Ramsey)just to stink it up the next week.

I know my glass is half empty but after this season who's isn't.

TO that defense..Collins has been in the league longer than Ramsey..and...He has a better coach.

[Ocliw]

Originally Posted by pg86

TO that defense..Collins has been in the league longer than Ramsey..and...He has a better coach.

Ramsey was just the first one I thought of.There have been many others.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Ocliw

Ramsey was just the first one I thought of.There has been many others.

Name them...lol

Jeff Hostetlier right? Who else

[Ocliw]

Originally Posted by pg86

Name them...lol

Jeff Hostetlier right? Who else

Aw hell,I'll get right on it.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Ocliw

Collins IS more familiar with the system and as far as other teams preparing for him ,he hasn't played enough to really be studied.

The bench curse worries me. How many times have we seen backups come in and play great(Ramsey)just to stink it up the next week.

I know my glass is half empty but after this season who's isn't.

No disrespect to you buddy but you don't have to study Collins to see he is slow and holds the ball to long.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

No disrespect to you buddy but you don't have to study Collins to see he is slow and holds the ball to long.

Yeah but look at the time the line gives him Jesus he has the time of someone waiting for a bus!

[Ocliw]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

No disrespect to you buddy but you don't have to study Collins to see he is slow and holds the ball to long.

I was responding to your first post about other teams getting a chance to gameplan for him.