Dan Snyder losing respectability?

[Skinny Tee]

[From JLC Insider:
"Spagnuolo and Jim Mora both pulled out on the Redskins and went on to lucrative deals elsewhere. Gregg Williams was on the verge of pulling out several times with Joe Gibbs urging him not to. Bill Cowher and Pete Carroll didn't want the job under this front office structure at all.

Looks like a highly devalued position. Hard to spin it any other way."]

Snyder's ill repute is starting to preceed him now. Coaches are now not even dumb enough to jeopardize their advancement for the windfall of riches that awaits them here as HC.

If Jim Fassel doesn't scream devalued position I don't know what does.

[SFREDSKIN]

Is he in the Bidwell, Al Davis category? I think his big ego is the problem.

[LMsexyAO]

I think there are several coaches would want to work for the owner with the highest paid coaching and players staff. Who the hell wouldn't? Snyder writes any check to make this team better. Although he does treat the fans poorly, the only thing Synder is really guilty of in this coach-finding process is caring to much about the future of this team.

So far no one has yet to be publically OFFERED a job, so you can hardly say they are turning SNYDER down.

[Hail2theskins]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

I think there are several coaches would want to work for the owner with the highest paid coaching and players staff. Who the hell wouldn't? Snyder writes any check to make this team better. Although he does treat the fans poorly, the only thing Synder is really guilty of in this coach-finding process is caring to much about the future of this team.

So far no one has yet to be publically OFFERED a job, so you can hardly say they are turning SNYDER down.

Would you want to be the HC of a team with NO control of your own staff? Seriously, thats like starting a business and having some 3rd party choosing your partners for you, who wants that?

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by Hail2theskins

Would you want to be the HC of a team with NO control of your own staff? Seriously, thats like starting a business and having some 3rd party choosing your partners for you, who wants that?

No, it's nothing like that at all. The new coach will have no financial repurcussions for failure if that should happen. This situation is much closer to an executive board hiring in a CEO after they have put in place a solid management team. That happens all the time in business and it the expected norm for the most part. This coach is getting paid (well I might add) to manage players and staff, and that is nothing like starting a business.

[texasskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Hail2theskins

Would you want to be the HC of a team with NO control of your own staff? Seriously, thats like starting a business and having some 3rd party choosing your partners for you, who wants that?

I must admit that I do like some of the things Dan Snyder has done in the community he lives in, it's hard not to appriciate that.

But getting down to football he is not a very good owner. What has this team won in the time he has been the owner? We've had three playoff appreances and that's it. Two of those three came in the four years Gibbs came back. Joe again has left the team in much better shape than he found it. I'm sure that Dan has his reasons for taking so long to hire a HC but still there must be something wrong with his approach in all of this that has keep him for hiring someone by now or that has made others say I don't want the job. It might be that no other coach wants to work for him other as the HC other than Fassal. Tell me that Meeks or Spags is not a much better choice than Fassal and Gregg Williams certainly was. The truth is The Washington Redskins have not been worth a damn under the ownership of Dan Synder and that's just that. I hope he sells the team soon. Because we as fans will never celebrate another world title with the team under Dan and his flunky Vinny C. Jack Kent Cook didn't agree with a lot of things Joe Gibbs wanted to do when Joe worked for Cook but he did so and things turned out pretty damn good I'd say, four Super Bowl trips and three Lombardi trophies to show for it.
Dan should have listen to Gibbs and hired Williams and things would have turned out much better for the team. It's truly a shame that this team is probably going to be around mediocore or worse with all of the talent it has just because the owner can't or want listen to the man who got this team back into the playoff 2 out of 4 years after being out of the league for 12 years and as I said earlier he has left the team in far better shape than he found it. It's a sad, sad time for the team and the fans.

But I've been pulling for the Skins for to long now to turn away so I'll just hope that things turn out well no matter who Dan hire as the HC.

So no I wouldn't want to be the guy hired as head coach after the OC and DC have been put in place. Because I would feel like I didn't have any control or the respect of the other coaches or the players.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by texasskinsfan

I must admit that I do like some of the things Dan Snyder has done in the community he lives in, it's hard not to appriciate that.

But getting down to football he is not a very good owner. What has this team won in the time he has been the owner? We've had three playoff appreances and that's it. Two of those three came in the four years Gibbs came back. Joe again has left the team in much better shape than he found it. I'm sure that Dan has his reasons for taking so long to hire a HC but still there must be something wrong with his approach in all of this that has keep him for hiring someone by now or that has made others say I don't want the job. It might be that no other coach wants to work for him other as the HC other than Fassal. Tell me that Meeks or Spags is not a much better choice than Fassal and Gregg Williams certainly was. The truth is The Washington Redskins have not been worth a damn under the ownership of Dan Synder and that's just that. I hope he sells the team soon. Because we as fans will never celebrate another world title with the team under Dan and his flunky Vinny C. Jack Kent Cook didn't agree with a lot of things Joe Gibbs wanted to do when Joe worked for Cook but he did so and things turned out pretty damn good I'd say, four Super Bowl trips and three Lombardi trophies to show for it.
Dan should have listen to Gibbs and hired Williams and things would have turned out much better for the team. It's truly a shame that this team is probably going to be around mediocore or worse with all of the talent it has just because the owner can't or want listen to the man who got this team back into the playoff 2 out of 4 years after being out of the league for 12 years and as I said earlier he has left the team in far better shape than he found it. It's a sad, sad time for the team and the fans.

But I've been pulling for the Skins for to long now to turn away so I'll just hope that things turn out well no matter who Dan hire as the HC.

So no I wouldn't want to be the guy hired as head coach after the OC and DC have been put in place. Because I would feel like I didn't have any control or the respect of the other coaches or the players.

Dang we let GW go and I guess or SB went right out the door with him. How do you know if we are better off with GW by his record as a head coach?

[saden1]

You've got to ask yourself "Would I work for Snyder?"

Hell, if I were Fassel I would pull out too. I'm surprised he is still around seeing how he is just a bootycall.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

You've got to ask yourself "Would I work for Snyder?"

Hell, if I were Fassel I would pull out too. I'm surprised he is still around seeing how he is just a bootycall.

Where else is gonna get an offer? If he sticks with the Skins he gets a huge payday. Suck it up for a year and make a shit ton of money.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Where else is gonna get an offer? If he sticks with the Skins he gets a huge payday. Suck it up for a year and make a shit ton of money.

He seems desperate...I don't like desperate people.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by saden1

You've got to ask yourself "Would I work for Snyder?"

Hell, if I were Fassel I would pull out too. I'm surprised he is still around seeing how he is just a bootycall.

hahaha never thought of it that way but youre right, fassel is the ugly chick with big tits you keep around for when your desperate.

go skins!

[WillH]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

I think there are several coaches would want to work for the owner with the highest paid coaching and players staff. Who the hell wouldn't? Snyder writes any check to make this team better. Although he does treat the fans poorly, the only thing Synder is really guilty of in this coach-finding process is caring to much about the future of this team.

So far no one has yet to be publically OFFERED a job, so you can hardly say they are turning SNYDER down.

Wasn't Jim Mora offered the job?

[BaltimoreSkins]

The national media seems to think DS FUBARed this coaching search and so do many local personalities here in B-more. I have to imagine it is the same scenario in other markets as well. The primary argument being that he hired coordinators prior to HC.

[squrrelco3]

The problem with this thread title is you need to have respectability to lose it.

Justified or not, Dan Snyder has p*ssed off so many of the other owners by running coaches salaries through the roof and overpaying for bad talent, not to mention that he's gotten the worst PR since Satan, that no one is giving him the benefit of the doubt and everyone is going to go out of their way to see to it that he doesn't get a damn thing be it coaches or whatever without paying through the nose.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by squrrelco3

The problem with this thread title is you need to have respectability to lose it.

Justified or not, Dan Snyder has p*ssed off so many of the other owners by running coaches salaries through the roof and overpaying for bad talent, not to mention that he's gotten the worst PR since Satan, that no one is giving him the benefit of the doubt and everyone is going to go out of their way to see to it that he doesn't get a damn thing be it coaches or whatever without paying through the nose.

Well said. If you want to get a raise, interview with Snyder or have your agent talk about a possible Redskins job.