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Old 01-27-2009, 12:28 PM   #1
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Rumor: Giants Looking At Boldin To Replace Plax

Giants could make Anquan Boldin move to replace Plaxico Burress
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:35 PM   #2
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Re: Rumor: Giants Looking At Boldin To Replace Plax

Not if Fitz can help it

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Fitzgerald willing to restructure to keep Boldin «

I think Boldin is great, but I heard a pretty interesting interview the other day basically pointing out that over the years when Fitz has not been in the picture and the opposing defense puts their best corner on Boldin he's no great shakes.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #3
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Not if Fitz can help it

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I think Boldin is great, but I heard a pretty interesting interview the other day basically pointing out that over the years when Fitz has not been in the picture and the opposing defense puts their best corner on Boldin he's no great shakes.
Fitz is one of my favorite players in the NFL. Class guy on and off the field. But why should he have to restructure when the Cards have plenty of money ( under the cap ) to pay Boldin? Cards ought to be ashamed of themselves for not paying Boldin. This is one guy who deserves a new contract.
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Not if Fitz can help it

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I think Boldin is great, but I heard a pretty interesting interview the other day basically pointing out that over the years when Fitz has not been in the picture and the opposing defense puts their best corner on Boldin he's no great shakes.
Huh?
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Old 01-27-2009, 03:07 PM   #5
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Huh?

First let me say I don't agree with it, but it was this statistical analysis that said when Boldin was up against the game's elite receivers (usually Fitz gets that guy), Boldin's yards per catch and completion rate were ok. Basically saying that without Fitzgerald you may experience a significant drop-off in Boldin's peformance. Sort of how, but perhaps not to the extreme extent, of how Bryant Johnson kinda sucked this year.

Maybe it came from Football Outsiders, I forget
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First let me say I don't agree with it, but it was this statistical analysis that said when Boldin was up against the game's elite receivers (usually Fitz gets that guy), Boldin's yards per catch and completion rate were ok. Basically saying that without Fitzgerald you may experience a significant drop-off in Boldin's peformance. Sort of how, but perhaps not to the extreme extent, of how Bryant Johnson kinda sucked this year.

Maybe it came from Football Outsiders, I forget
I think that one was Joyner. At least that's what I remember.
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First let me say I don't agree with it, but it was this statistical analysis that said when Boldin was up against the game's elite receivers (usually Fitz gets that guy), Boldin's yards per catch and completion rate were ok. Basically saying that without Fitzgerald you may experience a significant drop-off in Boldin's peformance. Sort of how, but perhaps not to the extreme extent, of how Bryant Johnson kinda sucked this year.

Maybe it came from Football Outsiders, I forget
Couldn't they say the same about Fitz without Boldin? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Boldin lead the NFL in recieving TD's this year even after missing a few weeks because someone decided to amputate his face?

I know that you do not agree. this reminds me of a stat from the 90's where the commentators said something like "the Bills have a better winning percentage when Bruce Smith isn't in the game". That was back when he was a stellar DE. The Bills would not have wanted to face any offense without Bruce Smith if they could help it.

Some of these guys just like to bring up pointless stats and pass them off as knowlege and pray that you do no realize that they are talking out of their ass. That's how they continue to get paid.
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Not if Fitz can help it

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I think Boldin is great, but I heard a pretty interesting interview the other day basically pointing out that over the years when Fitz has not been in the picture and the opposing defense puts their best corner on Boldin he's no great shakes.
This fact intrigued me, which made me to look up the facts (Boldin and Fitzgerald are ones of my favorite players).. And I think this fact is incorrect.. In Boldin's first year (2003), he had 101 catches for 1,377 along with 8 TDs.. However in his second year, his production fell down - only 56 catches for 623 yards.. The second year (2004) is when Larry Fitzgerald came in, he did not do so well either - 58 catches for 780 yards.. I think it's because of the QBs situation, I also checked the 2004 rooster list.. Turns out that Luke McCown, Shaun King, and John Navarre were the QBs - I am going to assume that McCown was the one throwing balls to the receivers.. Jeff Blake (I have no idea who he is) was the one who threw balls in 2003 - I believe he retired after that season..

The 2005 season was when Kurt Warner came in.. Boldin had 102 catches for 1,402 yards and Fitzgerald had 103 catches for 1409 yards.. Those facts are enough for me to say that the fact of Boldin wouldn't be great when Fitzgerald isn't on the field is moot..

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Jeff Blake (I have no idea who he is) was the one who threw balls in 2003
A bit off topic, but does this remark make anyone else feel old?

As far as Boldin, I wouldn't mind having him in Washington, but they'd end up having to get rid of Randle El. Even if that did happen, they would still have a log jam at receiver with Moss, Boldin, Kelly, Thomas, and Thrash.
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A bit off topic, but does this remark make anyone else feel old?
I figured it must have been a joke
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A bit off topic, but does this remark make anyone else feel old?

As far as Boldin, I wouldn't mind having him in Washington, but they'd end up having to get rid of Randle El. Even if that did happen, they would still have a log jam at receiver with Moss, Boldin, Kelly, Thomas, and Thrash.
Not me, I'm 20 so I pretty much feel young

I am not saying that Skins should try and trade for Boldin.. In fact, I think Skins should stay away from this situation.. Because we have only four picks and we already got two new WRs from last year.. However, I would love to see Boldin in Skins uniform only if it would not cause any long-term problems in future.. What I was trying to prove was that the comment about Boldin's performance without Fitzgerald SmootSmack heard is invalid..
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A bit off topic, but does this remark make anyone else feel old?
Yes, I will be only 25 next month and I am a chick lol. I didn't think it was a joke, I just thought there are some really young people on this board.
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Re: Rumor: Giants Looking At Boldin To Replace Plax

Just don't let Boldin hang out with Plax-he might get his leg shot off.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:45 PM   #14
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Just don't let Boldin hang out with Plax-he might get his leg shot off.
You know your dead wrong for that comment
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I'm a big fan of Boldin. I wish the Skins could land him.
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