Somebody please try to convince me that the FO has a plan.

KI Skins Fan · 03-13-2009, 10:09 AM

I am one frustrated Redskins fan. Here's what I see.

We've gone back to the same bad habits that have cost us draft picks and cap space and that I believe will surely doom us to continued mediocrity. The Jason Taylor fiasco, another of our customary panic moves, cost us dearly in draft picks. Albert Haynesworth, as great as he is, represents a whopping chunk of our cap space which seems to have precluded our making other FA moves.

Meanwhile, we have holes to fill - big holes. We need a RT, a SLB, a RDE, OL backups, a Kicker, a Punter, a PR, and maybe more. Right now, it looks like we might bring back Daniels and Washington. That's nice, but, at this point in their careers they're only stop-gap solutions.

Even with Haynesworth, this doesn't look to me like a team that is poised to make a playoff run in the tough NFC East. Sure, I wanted Haynesworth, but what do I know? I'm just a dumb fan who loves to watch great football players do their thing in B&G. I don't need to have a plan. But shouldn't the FO have one? If they do, I just can't see it.

If you can detect a plan in all this, clue me in. Also, what do you think the plan should be?

koepke25 · 03-13-2009, 10:23 AM

Don't get down just yet. It could be worse. We will address either DE, OT or SLB with our 1st pick in the draft. There will still be some players cut before training camp that we can pick up to hopefully help us in the other positions.

The AH signing helps us with the DE position as well. Whoever lines up next to him will have a huge advantage even if he isn't a stud. Heyer/Jansen are can handle the position (short term) if we go SLB or DE in the draft.

As for K, P & PR I think we could be better but I wouldn't worry just yet. ARE sucks so hopefully we will use either Moss or Hall to return punts.

Don't forget that our defense was pretty good last year without AH. Both Washington and JT had bad years and missed a lot of time. I also think by bringing back Dock we have intantly upgraded the OL.

We still have holes that need to be addressed but I am holding out hope!

MTK · 03-13-2009, 10:27 AM

They don't have a plan. They tack up pictures of free agents and draft picks and toss darts at them. They also get a lot of their info from playing Madden and simming through the franchise mode.

SmootSmack · 03-13-2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They don't have a plan. They tack up pictures of free agents and draft picks and toss darts at them. They also get a lot of their info from playing Madden and simming through the franchise mode.

What do you know? Listen, let me tell you how it works...they use a Ouija board

dblanch66 · 03-13-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What do you know? Listen, let me tell you how it works...they use a Ouija board

...and a magic 8 ball.

Trample the Elderly · 03-13-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dblanch66

...and a magic 8 ball.

You guys are all wrong! They use tea leaves.

53Fan · 03-13-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You guys are all wrong! They use tea leaves.

Leaves or bags? I heard someone say Vinny was a teabagger. Whatever that means.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-13-2009, 10:32 AM

Matty:

Be careful here. You might give away the fact that you have a secret camera located in the Skins' FO Conference Room. If they find it, they'll confiscate it.

Defensewins · 03-13-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They don't have a plan. They tack up pictures of free agents and draft picks and toss darts at them. They also get a lot of their info from playing Madden and simming through the franchise mode.

Aahhh.
That is why our draft last year sucked. I hope their aim is better this year.

The Goat · 03-13-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They don't have a plan. They tack up pictures of free agents and draft picks and toss darts at them. They also get a lot of their info from playing Madden and simming through the franchise mode.

LMAO... I think this is worthy of sig-status.

skinsfan69 · 03-13-2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They don't have a plan. They tack up pictures of free agents and draft picks and toss darts at them. They also get a lot of their info from playing Madden and simming through the franchise mode.

Matty I'm curious to know what you or any of the other mods think of our front office. It seems like you guys take the side of the FO. Maybe I'm wrong but it just kinda seems that way. Do you actually think they're good at what they do?

MTK · 03-13-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Matty I'm curious to know what you or any of the other mods think of our front office. It seems like you guys take the side of the FO. Maybe I'm wrong but it just kinda seems that way. Do you actually think they're good at what they do?

Yes we're all front runners and support the front office no matter what.

I'm not going to even bother getting into it because it's been covered plenty of times before.

If that's the way you really think you're not paying very much attention.

SmootSmack · 03-13-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Matty I'm curious to know what you or any of the other mods think of our front office. It seems like you guys take the side of the FO. Maybe I'm wrong but it just kinda seems that way. Do you actually think they're good at what they do?

I'm not going to speak for the other mods, but for myself I think

-They do a lot of things well that are overlooked by the team's fans because we all want 16-0 seasons with Lombardi trophies at the end every year

-Sometimes it may seem like I go overboard to defend the FO, but it's sometimes to provide the other perspective to the constant bashing

-I think if people took a step back they would see that a lot of other teams (even the best) make bad decisions and have bad luck. The idea that everyone else is doing it right and we're doing it wrong is naive

-A lot of people here are loving what the Giants did this offseason (so far). But we needed to improve our offensive and defensive lines and we've taken steps to do that. The Giants needed to find a WR and what have they done to address that? It's early and I expect they'll (although they deny it) use their draft picks and/or talent on the defensive line to get that WR. But they haven't yet.

-Are they good at what they do? In many ways yes. We've made several good choices in the draft and free agency. I know the common refrain is "Well how hard is to know to draft Sean Taylor?" Well, a lot of teams have made bad choices in the first round. And I know most have written off Thomas and Kelly. Well, that really just goes back to point #1.

-Could they be better? Of course. I'm not naive to mistakes they've made. The Duckett trade was disatrous and unneccesary, as one example. But we see a Chad Rinehart drafted in the 3rd round not starting and suddenly the thought is OMG, the Redskins suck! They don't know how to even draft a 3rd rounder...yeah, but we drafted Chris Cooley in the 3rd round, we drafted Derrick Dockery in the 3rd round (but we tend to forget that). We see Devin Thomas not playing much his first year and we think This moron was a waste of a pick! But at the same time we want the FO to build through the draft, be patient, and not go for the quick fix all the time

KI Skins Fan · 03-13-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They do a lot of things well that are overlooked by the team's fans because we all want 16-0 seasons with Lombardi trophies at the end every year.

Hey, I'm not that greedy! How about a playoff game or a winning season for starters?

SmootSmack · 03-13-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Hey, I'm not that greedy! How about a playoff game or a winning season for starters?

Didn't we have two winning seasons and two playoff appearances (with a win) in the last five years? Not great sure, but let's not act like we're just missing the playoffs year in and year out

03-13-2009, 10:23 AM	#2
koepke25 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4	Re: Somebody please try to convince me that the FO has a plan. Don't get down just yet. It could be worse. We will address either DE, OT or SLB with our 1st pick in the draft. There will still be some players cut before training camp that we can pick up to hopefully help us in the other positions. The AH signing helps us with the DE position as well. Whoever lines up next to him will have a huge advantage even if he isn't a stud. Heyer/Jansen are can handle the position (short term) if we go SLB or DE in the draft. As for K, P & PR I think we could be better but I wouldn't worry just yet. ARE sucks so hopefully we will use either Moss or Hall to return punts. Don't forget that our defense was pretty good last year without AH. Both Washington and JT had bad years and missed a lot of time. I also think by bringing back Dock we have intantly upgraded the OL. We still have holes that need to be addressed but I am holding out hope!

03-13-2009, 10:27 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Somebody please try to convince me that the FO has a plan. They don't have a plan. They tack up pictures of free agents and draft picks and toss darts at them. They also get a lot of their info from playing Madden and simming through the franchise mode. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-13-2009, 10:32 AM	#8
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Somebody please try to convince me that the FO has a plan. Matty: Be careful here. You might give away the fact that you have a secret camera located in the Skins' FO Conference Room. If they find it, they'll confiscate it. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-13-2009, 10:09 AM	#1
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Somebody please try to convince me that the FO has a plan. I am one frustrated Redskins fan. Here's what I see. We've gone back to the same bad habits that have cost us draft picks and cap space and that I believe will surely doom us to continued mediocrity. The Jason Taylor fiasco, another of our customary panic moves, cost us dearly in draft picks. Albert Haynesworth, as great as he is, represents a whopping chunk of our cap space which seems to have precluded our making other FA moves. Meanwhile, we have holes to fill - big holes. We need a RT, a SLB, a RDE, OL backups, a Kicker, a Punter, a PR, and maybe more. Right now, it looks like we might bring back Daniels and Washington. That's nice, but, at this point in their careers they're only stop-gap solutions. Even with Haynesworth, this doesn't look to me like a team that is poised to make a playoff run in the tough NFC East. Sure, I wanted Haynesworth, but what do I know? I'm just a dumb fan who loves to watch great football players do their thing in B&G. I don't need to have a plan. But shouldn't the FO have one? If they do, I just can't see it. If you can detect a plan in all this, clue me in. Also, what do you think the plan should be?

Somebody please try to convince me that the FO has a plan.

Locker Room Main Forum