How many starting RBs are worse than Portis?

[maroonandblack30]

I know our line is in shambles, but Portis leaves yards on the field. No explosiveness, no quickness, and he doesn't even think he needs to practice.

How did he not score on that 78 yard run? One defender, one blocker, and one CP = a FG???? Every other starting RB in the league scores easily.

He is a disgrace to the Burgandy and Gold!!!!!

[MTK]

CP is a middle of the pack kind of starter right now. We could do better, but we could do much worse. Behind a good OL I think he could still be very effective, but it's to the point now where I think it's time to shake things up. He's not worth the big dollars he's making and he's not a leader off the field. Time to move on.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

CP is a middle of the pack kind of starter right now. We could do better, but we could do much worse. Behind a good OL I think he could still be very effective, but it's to the point now where I think it's time to shake things up. He's not worth the big dollars he's making and he's not a leader off the field. Time to move on.

I agree, especially about the $. I dont know about being very effective but he'd be better behind a better O line. I would also add that he's not much of a leader on the field either since he almost never practices (I know he's dinged) and with the offense sputtering the way it is I think the vets need to step up in their preparation whether they are dinged or not.

I'd love to see things shaken up but Betts looks slower than CP. The Skins are really showing the effects of giving away draft picks because it seems they just dont have any young talent ready to step in and take the reigns.

[redsk1]

That's a little much to say he's a disgrace.

I understand your point though. He has slowed. I think we need to semi-clean house on the offensive side of the ball, CP included. Just look at our division.

B Jacobs and Bradshaw
Barber, Jones, and Choice
Westbrook and McCoy

I think they all have better "weapons" at RB than we do. Not to mention, Betts, who is average IMO as well.

[Southpaw]

I agree with the sentiment that Portis isn't as effective as he has been in the past. I'd also be willing to agree with the idea that he represents what's wrong with the Redskins organization, but to use the word "disgrace" to describe Clinton Portis is a bit over the line.

This offense(the offense that Gibbs put together) has sputtered for six seasons. The two times in those six seasons that Washington was able to make a playoff push, Clinton Portis was basically carrying the team on his back. Yes, he's lost his explosiveness and he probably doesn't have much tread left on the tires, but that certainly does not make him a disgrace.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by redsk1

That's a little much to say he's a disgrace.

I understand your point though. He has slowed. I think we need to semi-clean house on the offensive side of the ball, CP included. Just look at our division.

B Jacobs and Bradshaw
Barber, Jones, and Choice
Westbrook and McCoy

I think they all have better "weapons" at RB than we do. Not to mention, Betts, who is average IMO as well.

His lack of talent isn't why he is a disgrace IMO....its his lack of talent combined with his apparent unwillingness to work hard to overcome his eroding skills....HE WON"T EVEN PRACTICE!!!!! I don't know how Zorn keeps putting him on the field if he never practices, especially now that he is average at best.

Betts has no heart...he didn't even want to go to team where he could start after his breakout season in 2006, that tells me all I need to know about him.

The skins have WAY too may guys who are fat and happy cause they are getting paid....I swear the fans care more when they lose the 50% of the players.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

The skins have WAY too may guys who are fat and happy cause they are getting paid....I swear the fans care more when they lose the 50% of the players.

Great point...in a way I am a little glad that Snyder is getting to see how a lot of money doesn't necessarily result in a good team. We had little problems like Lloyd and Archuleta but now that the whole team has gone up in smoke, I wonder if he will make any adjustments.

Portis is not a disgrace, although he was never quite the touchdown machine he was in Denver, he has added a great chapter to the book on Redskins rushers, he's number 2 on the list in all-time yards, 3rd in all time carries and occupies the top 2 spots for yards in a season. So don't call him a disgrace, has he slowed, for sure, has he been given enough of an opportunity to succeed? I'm not so sure.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Great point...in a way I am a little glad that Snyder is getting to see how a lot of money doesn't necessarily result in a good team. We had little problems like Lloyd and Archuleta but now that the whole team has gone up in smoke, I wonder if he will make any adjustments.

Portis is not a disgrace, although he was never quite the touchdown machine he was in Denver, he has added a great chapter to the book on Redskins rushers, he's number 2 on the list in all-time yards, 3rd in all time carries and occupies the top 2 spots for yards in a season. So don't call him a disgrace, has he slowed, for sure, has he been given enough of an opportunity to succeed? I'm not so sure.

We need to insert the players we have who are hungry for success. There's no doubt in my mind that another coach (with a vision) wouldn't recognize a time in a game when a player like Anhony Alridge could be utilized. I don't want to hear about "fumbles" Portis fumbled the ball just this past Sunday, and there's also no doubt Alridge would have scored on the play Portis failed to do so. We have absolutely nothing to lose by utilizing our youth, the old "fat cats" are not getting the job done, if we can be 2-4 with them, we can't be any worse without them.

[bigant]

when you taken a beaten like he has the last year and half,your body wears down,believe me he is still very good, now our quarterback and head coach that,s a whole other subject.......................

[djnemo65]

It was really apparent in yesterday's game how much lateral quickness he's lost. He has no explosiveness out of his cuts anymore. Yeah he could do well behind a great line but so could most NFL backs. He's just a guy at this point, just one who happens to be making mega millions.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

It was really apparent in yesterday's game how much lateral quickness he's lost. He has no explosiveness out of his cuts anymore. Yeah he could do well behind a great line but so could most NFL backs. He's just a guy at this point, just one who happens to be making mega millions.

Clinton is a down hill runner now. He is a north and south runner, So I agree with you that he has lost his lateral quickness. But I would still take Portis because he runs hard and blocks well. He also plays through injuires that alot of other backs sit out games with.

[Green1]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

I know our line is in shambles, but Portis leaves yards on the field. No explosiveness, no quickness, and he doesn't even think he needs to practice.

How did he not score on that 78 yard run? One defender, one blocker, and one CP = a FG???? Every other starting RB in the league scores easily.

He is a disgrace to the Burgandy and Gold!!!!!

2 K. Smith DET and Hightower Cards, but they are all equally bad. Portis only started running hard after Betts started the 2nd half. But he should have got a chance to run it in, Zorn goes empty backfield after a 80 yard run! Mason should be starting running back he has explosiveness and quickness. Betts is just Portis with less speed but better hands.

[jamf]

he was a probowler last year and lead the league in rushing for most of the year.

He needs lanes to run through. Im in the minority here but I think he is still one of the better backs in the league.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by jamf

he was a probowler last year and lead the league in rushing for most of the year.

He needs lanes to run through. Im in the minority here but I think he is still one of the better backs in the league.

There are a lot of good rbs in the nfl, and most teams have one that is in their prime. CP isn't even a top 20 back at this point. To his credit, he can still block very well, but even in that dept. he seems less tenacious than in years past.

[Lotus]

I think this is Portis' last year with the Redskins.