Holmgren: Redskins's Treatment of Zorn Was Wrong

[Redskin Warrior]

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Well he will mostly likely not be coach or GM now!!!

[Trample the Elderly]

What else is new?

[SmootSmack]

But then again Marty said he'd never work for Snyder

Still, like I mentioned in another thread (smart idea to start a new thread on this by the way), it just seems unlikely because I think it'd be too big a change for Holmgren to go from Paul Allen to Dan Snyder.

I also have a feeling that Holmgren could end up as the new President in Cleveland. Total gut feeling, based on nothing

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But then again Marty said he'd never work for Snyder

Still, like I mentioned in another thread (smart idea to start a new thread on this by the way), it just seems unlikely because I think it'd be too big a change for Holmgren to go from Paul Allen to Dan Snyder.

I also have a feeling that Holmgren could end up as the new President in Cleveland. Total gut feeling, based on nothing

Before or after?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Before or after?

That was a "before" comment.

[mcarey032]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But then again Marty said he'd never work for Snyder

Still, like I mentioned in another thread (smart idea to start a new thread on this by the way), it just seems unlikely because I think it'd be too big a change for Holmgren to go from Paul Allen to Dan Snyder.

I also have a feeling that Holmgren could end up as the new President in Cleveland. Total gut feeling, based on nothing

Did anyone think that this would happen? How would it look if he were to come in and take one of his former assistant's job? He would look like a total jerk for doing that. It would then limit the talent pool who would actually want to coach here.

[MTK]

He's speaking the truth. Still can't rule him out just based on these comments though.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He's speaking the truth. Still can't rule him out just based on these comments though.

Short of part ownership in the team he is completely out.

[SFREDSKIN]

Snyder pisses his option at an experienced, winning coach by stepping on his "Swinging Richard" once again. Maybe we can get Tom Cable.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Holmgren: Redskins’ treatment of Zorn was wrong «

Well he will mostly likely not be coach or GM now!!!

This could be his way of turning down the offer before it was even extended. I always wondered if he'd take the job after we canned Zorn.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

This could be his way of turning down the offer before it was even extended. I always wondered if he'd take the job after we canned Zorn.

Or his way of making a statement publicly rather than telling DS personally during an interview. That way, if he is interviewed, he can say, 'you already know how I feel about the way Jim was treated...'

[Paintrain]

I never felt he was much of a fit for the Redskins anyways. The sense I always got from him was that he wanted to be THE guy/face of an organization and Snyder won't let that happen. I'm still expecting a Shanahan or Gruden/Allen move in early January.

[BringBackJoeT]

I actually think that Holmgren's comments shouldn't be construed to be any indication of his willingness to come to Washington.

The fact is that the opinion that Zorn was mistreated in having his play calling duties removed is somewhat universal. Given this, and the fact that Holmgren worked with Zorn in Seattle, a failure by Holmgren to say anything negative about it when asked might make him look like he's pandering to the Washington front office in the hope of keeping himself in the successor discussion, even if he actually believes that it was the right move. His comments were basic--that Zorn didn't deserve the treatment. That's nothing that can't be smoothed over in a contract discussion. As has been pointed out, Marty's comments were more pointed before he accepted the job.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BringBackJoeT

I actually think that Holmgren's comments shouldn't be construed to be any indication of his willingness to come to Washington.

The fact is that the opinion that Zorn was mistreated in having his play calling duties removed is somewhat universal. Given this, and the fact that Holmgren worked with Zorn in Seattle, a failure by Holmgren to say anything negative about it when asked might make him look like he's pandering to the Washington front office in the hope of keeping himself in the successor discussion, even if he actually believes that it was the right move. His comments were basic--that Zorn didn't deserve the treatment. That's nothing that can't be smoothed over in a contract discussion. As has been pointed out, Marty's comments were more pointed before he accepted the job.

Agreed. At the end of the day the NFL is a business and these guys are professionals. I wouldn't read too much into any comments flying around between now and the end of the season.

Maybe Holmgren is, indeed, interested in the job but he's sort of drawing a line in the sand. Truth be told, that's the kind of guy Snyder needs around here. I'm not endorsing Holmgren, per se. I'm just saying.

The good thing about all of this is that is out in the open now. Everything. Our lack of depth, the lack of quality starters at certain positions, the coaching and bad management. Dan Snyder needs to change the way he's been doing business. He knows it, the fans knows, the entire NFL knows it. No one really cares about Zorn anymore. Isn't that odd? In a weird kinda of way, Jim Zorn's not on the hot seat anymore.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Agreed. At the end of the day the NFL is a business and these guys are professionals. I wouldn't read too much into any comments flying around between now and the end of the season.

Maybe Holmgren is, indeed, interested in the job but he's sort of drawing a line in the sand. Truth be told, that's the kind of guy Snyder needs around here. I'm not endorsing Holmgren, per se. I'm just saying.

The good thing about all of this is that is out in the open now. Everything. Our lack of depth, the lack of quality starters at certain positions, the coaching and bad management. Dan Snyder needs to change the way he's been doing business. He knows it, the fans knows, the entire NFL knows it. No one really cares about Zorn anymore. Isn't that odd? In a weird kinda of way, Jim Zorn's not on the hot seat anymore.

So true. Being a half glass full kind of guy, I'm happy to accept a 3 win season if it means that Snyder FINALLY recognizes his role in this embarrassment, and then brings in real football people to fix his mess. Most importantly, he must learn to stay the hell out of the way, because his handling of Zorn has killed what little credibility that we might have had with top coaching candidates.