Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...

[Dr Do Itch Big]

Yea, yea I know it is coming from Florio, but it is very intresting. In a nut shell it states that since Dansby was franchise tagged twice, he would not be a RFA like most of the other "would have been's " expecting that big payday until the no CBA hit em. He states it would be a bidding war between us and Seattle???? oh yeah like they need a LB. I see another Hayensworth type deal on the eve of free agency. Which would be great, the dude is a beast! Your thoughts? Dansby is one of the few who won't be hurt by the uncapped year | ProFootballTalk.com


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Karlos Dansby

[sportscurmudgeon]

If there is one "unit" on a 4-12 Redskins' team that can be called "solid" linebacking would be that unit. Spending big bucks on a linebacker this year - - remember, a cap will be coming in future years if not in 2010 - - would not be a good strategic move.


Dansby is good. I'd pass...

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

If there is one "unit" on a 4-12 Redskins' team that can be called "solid" linebacking would be that unit. Spending big bucks on a linebacker this year - - remember, a cap will be coming in future years if not in 2010 - - would not be a good strategic move.


Dansby is good. I'd pass...

Say what? The linebacking unit is a huge problem area. There is no depth. Orakpo is not a linebacker, Wilson is not a linebacker Fletcher is old as dirt and McIntosh is straight up mediocre. Blades is a career backup on a bad team.

I don't want an expensive free agent unless they play oline, but our linebacking corps is a mess.

[Lotus]

If we are serious about switching to a 3-4, we will need to stock up on guys who can play 3-4 inside linebacker...like Dansby.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Say what? The linebacking unit is a huge problem area. There is no depth. Orakpo is not a linebacker, Wilson is not a linebacker Fletcher is old as dirt and McIntosh is straight up mediocre. Blades is a career backup on a bad team.

I don't want an expensive free agent unless they play oline, but our linebacking corps is a mess.

Agreed. London is old (but still awesome), Rocky is up and down and has degenerative knee issues, HB Blades is alright but will never be a stud, and like you said, Orakpo is not a natural LB by any stretch. Outside of those guys, we've got squat. LB, OL, and RB all need to be very big priorities this offseason.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. London is old (but still awesome), Rocky is up and down and has degenerative knee issues, HB Blades is alright but will never be a stud, and like you said, Orakpo is not a natural LB by any stretch. Outside of those guys, we've got squat. LB, OL, and RB all need to be very big priorities this offseason.

I'd also like to point out the irony that London has seemingly outlasted Antonio Pierce. London's just as old as Ray Lewis, and more durable, so I think it's safe to say that we may have him for 2 or 3 more years.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

If there is one "unit" on a 4-12 Redskins' team that can be called "solid" linebacking would be that unit. Spending big bucks on a linebacker this year - - remember, a cap will be coming in future years if not in 2010 - - would not be a good strategic move.


Dansby is good. I'd pass...

this whole post is a joke, but this is the biggest fallacy. once the cap goes away, it ain't coming back. you see something you like, buy it. its that simple

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this whole post is a joke, but this is the biggest fallacy. once the cap goes away, it ain't coming back. you see something you like, buy it. its that simple

I really hope that isnt the case...im for a cap. Lil' Danny gonna be thinking he George Steinbrenner. In regards to Dansby, he is worth a look and mos def a stud, but not worth 7 mil per year contract IMO...take that money and put into younger studs on the Oline (Evans or McNeil)

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I really hope that isnt the case...im for a cap. Lil' Danny gonna be thinking he George Steinbrenner. In regards to Dansby, he is worth a look and mos def a stud, but not worth 7 mil per year contract IMO...take that money and put into younger studs on the Oline (Evans or McNeil)

This is the thing about free agency that people are not realizing...I am not 100% sure about Evans, but McNeil would require us to trade picks in order to get him. The same goes for the threads about McNabb (who is still under contract) and Brandon Marshall (who I believe will be an RFA). These guys would cost us picks that we really cannot afford to lose.

While it is true that our focus should be on the offensive line with a lot of our offseason moves, Dansby at the right price, would be a good acquisition if indeed we are moving to a 3-4 defense since he won't be restricted like a lot of the other free agent names people are throwing around.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this whole post is a joke, but this is the biggest fallacy. once the cap goes away, it ain't coming back. you see something you like, buy it. its that simple

i realize you are just repeating what many others have said, but i think thats a big fat myth. there will be no cap in 2010, but itll be back in some form by 2011 or 2012. the owners, for the most part, WANT a salary cap... they think theyre paying players too much already. the players want a salary floor. something will be worked out.

Its also very possible that contracts written before a new CBA is reached (probably sometime in 2011) will not have to apply by all of the rules of the new CBA. Or, more likely, the contracts would apply, but non-compliant teams would face less strict penalties for non-compliance before the New CBA vs. non-compliance after the new CBA.

Whatever the case, I don't think teams should worry too much about the potential future ramifications of contracts signed in the capless year. I also think Dansby is a near-lock to become a Redskin if he choses not to resign with Arizona.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

If there is one "unit" on a 4-12 Redskins' team that can be called "solid" linebacking would be that unit. Spending big bucks on a linebacker this year - - remember, a cap will be coming in future years if not in 2010 - - would not be a good strategic move.


Dansby is good. I'd pass...

You couldn't be more wrong. Fletcher and McIntosh are great, but between Orakpo's part-time out-of-position play at LB along with Blades and Wilson...we're very shallow at the position.

[Ruhskins]

Dansby can be a solid FA acquisition and one of the few good/relatively young players that are not going to be RFAs with the uncapped year rules. I would say it will all depend on how much $$ he wants.

[Ruhskins]

So how 'bout this...

Rocky OLB, Fletch ILB, Dansby ILB, Orakpo OLB

Although...would Rocky be a good OLB in the 3-4? If not who else? Carter? I know he didn't like that much when he was in SF.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So how 'bout this...

Rocky OLB, Fletch ILB, Dansby ILB, Orakpo OLB

Although...would Rocky be a good OLB in the 3-4? If not who else? Carter? I know he didn't like that much when he was in SF.

Well, I think Chris Wilson could be a pretty solid 3-4 OLB. But you bring up a good point with Carter. He wasn't very good at all as an OLB in SF. He had a monster year this season in a 4-3. I think a switch to a 3-4 would squander his talents significantly.

Also, what would we do with Haynesworth? NT or DE? I can't imagine he'd be nearly as valuable in 3-4 as a 4-3. I think of the square peg-round hole analogy a lot of people used with Zorn and the offense the past few years. Seems like we'd be repeating that if we tried to use the 3-4 as our base next year. I'm fine with some 3-4 and 4-4 looks, but 4-3 really should be our base.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, I think Chris Wilson could be a pretty solid 3-4 OLB. But you bring up a good point with Carter. He wasn't very good at all as an OLB in SF. He had a monster year this season in a 4-3. I think a switch to a 3-4 would squander his talents significantly.

Also, what would we do with Haynesworth? NT or DE? I can't imagine he'd be nearly as valuable in 3-4 as a 4-3. I think of the square peg-round hole analogy a lot of people used with Zorn and the offense the past few years. Seems like we'd be repeating that if we tried to use the 3-4 as our base next year. I'm fine with some 3-4 and 4-4 looks, but 4-3 really should be our base.

I would use AH as a DE in the 3-4, use him the same way that the Ravens use Haloti Ngata. As for the NT, ideally I would try to get Casey Hampton...dream scenario would be snatching Wilfork from Darth Hoody. If not, then bring Aubrayo Franklin from the 49ers. I don't think we can just put anyone at NT, we definitely need to address this position through free agency, before we can groom our own NT.