A few notes on Ramsey:

[jdlea]

He had a better TD to INT ratio than Peyton Manning did in his 16 games as a starter. He had 23 TD's and 17 picks. Try to keep in mind also, that I know Ramsey threw 2 INT's on Hail Maries because we didn't have a quarterback with an arm other than him.

For all the haters:

Keep in mind that Patrick Ramsey is one of very few quarterbacks who managed to throw more Touchdowns in his first year as a starter. Has he taken a step back? I don't necessarily think so. He's been put into bad situations. When they brought him in yesterday, I thought it was a bad position to put the kid in. Down 17, obviously he's not going to win it. It will just shake his already fragile confidence. However, he did get going and come up with a TD to at least make it respectable. Moving on...I want everyone to remember that Ramsey may not have "played well," but you saw him take the hits. Also, the Skins didn't just have no running game last year. They had a starting Running Back who wasn't a day over 27, that is no longer in the league because he is so bad. Ramsey will learn to make less mistakes. This game is still relatively new to him. Keep in mind next week against Philly is just his 17th NFL start. The season is lost unless they win out, he should get the same leash Brunell got...half the season. Let's see what he can do and let's just see if he's the QB of the future.

I, for one, think that he is and believe he has better physical talent than Joey Harrington. The difference? Harrington got handed the job and get this...left alone. They let him struggle, they let him learn, now they're not too bad, most young quarterbacks just get, so be patient.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by jdlea

He had a better TD to INT ratio than Peyton Manning did in his 16 games as a starter. He had 23 TD's and 17 picks. Try to keep in mind also, that I know Ramsey threw 2 INT's on Hail Maries because we didn't have a quarterback with an arm other than him.

For all the haters:

Keep in mind that Patrick Ramsey is one of very few quarterbacks who managed to throw more Touchdowns in his first year as a starter. Has he taken a step back? I don't necessarily think so. He's been put into bad situations. When they brought him in yesterday, I thought it was a bad position to put the kid in. Down 17, obviously he's not going to win it. It will just shake his already fragile confidence. However, he did get going and come up with a TD to at least make it respectable. Moving on...I want everyone to remember that Ramsey may not have "played well," but you saw him take the hits. Also, the Skins didn't just have no running game last year. They had a starting Running Back who wasn't a day over 27, that is no longer in the league because he is so bad. Ramsey will learn to make less mistakes. This game is still relatively new to him. Keep in mind next week against Philly is just his 17th NFL start. The season is lost unless they win out, he should get the same leash Brunell got...half the season. Let's see what he can do and let's just see if he's the QB of the future.

I, for one, think that he is and believe he has better physical talent than Joey Harrington. The difference? Harrington got handed the job and get this...left alone. They let him struggle, they let him learn, now they're not too bad, most young quarterbacks just get, so be patient.

It's good to give stats to support your point but Ramsey was probably sacked more times than any other first year QB. He has had more passes batted down than any other first year starter also.

Had Ramsey played an entire season in his first first year like Manning that TD to INT ratio would have changed. As of now, Ramsey is not a rookie , yet he will continue to make the same mistakes that led him to the bench this year. He looked horrible in preseason and still has to prove himself this week.

After this week, I'm sure the Ramsey bandwagon will die down, because the only way we win is with Portis and not deep passes from Ramsey. 38 carries for 179 yds.

[Duffman003]

"Ramsey was probably sacked more times than any other first year QB" Sunra (I dont know how to do the cool quoting) I believe David Carr has that honor

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Duffman003

"Ramsey was probably sacked more times than any other first year QB" Sunra (I dont know how to do the cool quoting) I believe David Carr has that honor

yeah,but Carr lasted the whole yr,Ramsey didnt

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

yeah,but Carr lasted the whole yr,Ramsey didnt

See some people actually understand the point rather than take offense to the point. Thank you, sir.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

See some people actually understand the point rather than take offense to the point. Thank you, sir.

No one is taking offense buddy. Calm down.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

See some people actually understand the point rather than take offense to the point. Thank you, sir.

What's the point??

Carr lasted the whole year, Ramsey didn't?

Ramsey in his rookie year was yanked in and out of the lineup on a weekly basis.

Carr was left in to take his bumps while Spurrier played musical chairs at QB.

So what's the point?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

It's good to give stats to support your point but Ramsey was probably sacked more times than any other first year QB. He has had more passes batted down than any other first year starter also.

Where are you getting the passes batted down stat? I've never heard that one and I don't believe it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

It's good to give stats to support your point but Ramsey was probably sacked more times than any other first year QB. He has had more passes batted down than any other first year starter also.

So where are you getting your #'s from?

You say it's good to give stats but you go on to say he was "probably" sacked more than any other first year QB which is totaly false, Carr was sacked an NFL record 76 times in his rookie season, thank you.

As for the batted passes I have no idea where you're "probably" getting that number from but I'd be interested to hear your source.

[offiss]

I wasen't able to access the site for the post game chat, Ramsey defiently showed his inexperience in this offense early on but he was kind of thrown to the wolves, he was very very lucky that the Bengal's defense can't catch, with that said he showed as the game wore on that he began to get better, and that's after 1 1/2 quarter's, I see a lot of Tom Brady in this kid he will only get better, will he have some bump's in the road? Of coarse, but he will become a dangerous QB, we will have to learn to live with the occasional head scratching INT until he really get's acclamated into this offense, he will also find his pass protection a little better when he doesn't have to play from behind, as well Portis will start running more effectivly when team's start to respect Ramsey 1 hand washes the other, our offense is poised to take off but we do have a very difficult task the over the next 4 week's, I bet Ramsey beat's the eagles 1 of those games, I am just very glad we finally made the switch. As I predicted. :thumb:

http://thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=46522#post46522

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So where are you getting your #'s from?

You say it's good to give stats but you go on to say he was "probably" sacked more than any other first year QB which is totaly false, Carr was sacked an NFL record 76 times in his rookie season, thank you.

As for the batted passes I have no idea where you're "probably" getting that number from but I'd be interested to hear your source.

My source is the NFL Network. Solomon Wilcotts and Sharpe mentioned his first year stats on the evening show. Probably is not a definite article. It simply means it is a possibility. Remember Ramsey didn't finish the season.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

It's good to give stats to support your point but Ramsey was probably sacked more times than any other first year QB. He has had more passes batted down than any other first year starter also.

Had Ramsey played an entire season in his first first year like Manning that TD to INT ratio would have changed. As of now, Ramsey is not a rookie , yet he will continue to make the same mistakes that led him to the bench this year. He looked horrible in preseason and still has to prove himself this week.

After this week, I'm sure the Ramsey bandwagon will die down, because the only way we win is with Portis and not deep passes from Ramsey. 38 carries for 179 yds.

Whats your deal with Ramsey SUNRA? Come one man give the guy a chance to prove himself. And why are you comparing him to Manning? Manning was the first overall pick!

[SUNRA]

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]Whats your deal with Ramsey SUNRA? Come one man give the guy a chance to prove himself. And why are you comparing him to Manning? Manning was the first overall pick![/QUOTE

You have to read the thread by Jdlea who first made the comparison between Ramsey and Manning like that's something to brag about. Presently,Manning is the best QB in the league, so why waste time with frivilous comparisons when Ramsey is just getting out of the basement? Some of you guys need to stop counting your eggs before they hatch.

[htownskinfan]

After this week, I'm sure the Ramsey bandwagon will die down, because the only way we win is with Portis and not deep passes from Ramsey. 38 carries for 179 yds.
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I dont think the Ramsey bandwagon will die down because theres no way he can play worse than brunell,I've never seen a qb have a worse stretch of games than Brunell,even if we dont win another game I cant see anybody wanting brunell back in,maybe Hasselback,but not Brunell

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Sunra, I know you don't like Ramsey, but do you stand by your earlier comments (from previous weeks) that Brunell should be the starting QB? Or have you joined the Ramsey "bandwagon?"

P.S. I'm not trying to be smart ass.