Season Awards: Offensive line MVP

MTK · 01-21-2005, 08:12 AM

I don't have any stats to put up with the nominees so this poll may be a bit more subjective than the rest.

Thomas
Brown
Samuels
other

cpayne5 · 01-21-2005, 08:31 AM

I voted Chris Samuels. This guy takes a lot of heat from people on this board, but he only allowed 1 sack this year. This was a nice rebound year for him.

Gmanc711 · 01-21-2005, 08:36 AM

I'll go with Thomas. He was the most consistant overall this year, but like Cpayne said, Samuels does deserve some credit. I really hope this group stays together (w/ a new center) , because I think once they start to gel, they will become a very good line.

And he wasent the MVP, but I'll give some props to Ray Brown. The guy played his ass off, and he did a damn good job compared to what alot of us expected coming in.

FRPLG · 01-21-2005, 09:03 AM

How come Raymer isn't on the list?

BrudLee · 01-21-2005, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRPLG

How come Raymer isn't on the list?

This reminds me, Matty. We need a sarcasm button.

FRPLG · 01-21-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

This reminds me, Matty. We need a sarcasm button.

You get jokes!

SkinsRock · 01-21-2005, 02:10 PM

I think Brown did an excellent job, especially considering his age, and is a great veteran leader, and Thomas had another very solid year, but I went with Samuels. He stepped up from his funk the last couple years and played well. He still isn't at the Pro Bowl level he once was, but he played with an injury all year and took a leadership role. Plus, only giving up one sack all year is impressive.

BrudLee · 01-21-2005, 09:06 AM

I said it in the "skill category" of the offense, and I'll say it here. Ray Brown wasn't expected to receive a paycheck in August, and he ably started double-digit games for us. That's a valuable trait. Valuable enough that the coaching staff has said more about his return than, oh, Fred Smoot's for example. Samuels is a great player, but Ray Brown is a mentor to the young players on this team. If Jansen returns healthy, I'd expect Brown to push Dockery, and maybe even the two-headed crappy center team we have for a starting spot.

By the way, he still gets my vote in the "skill" category, too. When you are 40 years old, and handling 23 year olds for 60+ plays a game, there's some skill involved there.

Daseal · 01-21-2005, 09:45 AM

Samuels also played hurt all year.

But I chose Thomas! He came back early froim injury and I think also did a very good job this year. Both Samuels and Thomas had a good year, in my opinion

MTK · 01-21-2005, 09:56 AM

I agree with BL and I went with Ray Brown.

He took a lot of heat on the board just like Samuels, but you've got to give the guy a lot of credit considering his age. Sure he was a step down from Jansen but we would have been completely lost without this guy.

Samuels is a close second. He bounced back strong from a disasterous last two seasons. Hopefully he'll restructure and get back to 100% in the offseason. I know some people would like to see him released, but I think that would be a huge mistake. Of course if he won't redo his deal we might have no choice, but I think we should avoid that at all costs.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 01-21-2005, 12:55 PM

It's a toss up between Samuels and Brown. Brown filled in as a quality starter even though he was deemed an old backup by many. We had higher expectations for Samuels and he surpassed them.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-21-2005, 01:09 PM

I thought everyone was pretty solid except for Raymer... I picked Thomas though.

Redskins_P · 01-21-2005, 01:33 PM

I went w/ Samuels. He only allowed one sack, and has shown some commitment to Redskins. He wants to be here and I think he'll restructure.
Thomas is second simply because the guy has been solid ever since we picked him up last year. He also played injured.

diehardskin2982 · 01-21-2005, 01:49 PM

samuels was great but i chose brown because we signed him and he was able fill in where ever we needed him and hold down the line. that was great.

BrudLee · 01-21-2005, 02:17 PM

Samuels was a better tackle than Brown, but expectations should count for something here. Many of you voted against Portis, who had a 1300 yard season, because more was expected. My Brown vote was because we expect good things out of Samuels - with Brown, you expect a mentor and a locker room influence, not a starter.

View Poll Results: Who was the Redskins MVP on the offensive line in 2004?
Thomas	17	34.69%
Brown	12	24.49%
Samuels	17	34.69%
other (explain)	3	6.12%
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01-21-2005, 08:12 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Season Awards: Offensive line MVP I don't have any stats to put up with the nominees so this poll may be a bit more subjective than the rest. Thomas Brown Samuels other

01-21-2005, 08:31 AM	#2
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	I voted Chris Samuels. This guy takes a lot of heat from people on this board, but he only allowed 1 sack this year. This was a nice rebound year for him. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

01-21-2005, 08:36 AM	#3
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I'll go with Thomas. He was the most consistant overall this year, but like Cpayne said, Samuels does deserve some credit. I really hope this group stays together (w/ a new center) , because I think once they start to gel, they will become a very good line. And he wasent the MVP, but I'll give some props to Ray Brown. The guy played his ass off, and he did a damn good job compared to what alot of us expected coming in. __________________ #21

01-21-2005, 09:06 AM	#8
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	I said it in the "skill category" of the offense, and I'll say it here. Ray Brown wasn't expected to receive a paycheck in August, and he ably started double-digit games for us. That's a valuable trait. Valuable enough that the coaching staff has said more about his return than, oh, Fred Smoot's for example. Samuels is a great player, but Ray Brown is a mentor to the young players on this team. If Jansen returns healthy, I'd expect Brown to push Dockery, and maybe even the two-headed crappy center team we have for a starting spot. By the way, he still gets my vote in the "skill" category, too. When you are 40 years old, and handling 23 year olds for 60+ plays a game, there's some skill involved there. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

01-21-2005, 09:03 AM	#4
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	How come Raymer isn't on the list?

01-21-2005, 02:10 PM	#7
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	I think Brown did an excellent job, especially considering his age, and is a great veteran leader, and Thomas had another very solid year, but I went with Samuels. He stepped up from his funk the last couple years and played well. He still isn't at the Pro Bowl level he once was, but he played with an injury all year and took a leadership role. Plus, only giving up one sack all year is impressive.

01-21-2005, 09:45 AM	#9
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Samuels also played hurt all year. But I chose Thomas! He came back early froim injury and I think also did a very good job this year. Both Samuels and Thomas had a good year, in my opinion

01-21-2005, 09:56 AM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	I agree with BL and I went with Ray Brown. He took a lot of heat on the board just like Samuels, but you've got to give the guy a lot of credit considering his age. Sure he was a step down from Jansen but we would have been completely lost without this guy. Samuels is a close second. He bounced back strong from a disasterous last two seasons. Hopefully he'll restructure and get back to 100% in the offseason. I know some people would like to see him released, but I think that would be a huge mistake. Of course if he won't redo his deal we might have no choice, but I think we should avoid that at all costs.

01-21-2005, 12:55 PM	#11
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	It's a toss up between Samuels and Brown. Brown filled in as a quality starter even though he was deemed an old backup by many. We had higher expectations for Samuels and he surpassed them.

01-21-2005, 01:09 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	I thought everyone was pretty solid except for Raymer... I picked Thomas though. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-21-2005, 01:33 PM	#13
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	I went w/ Samuels. He only allowed one sack, and has shown some commitment to Redskins. He wants to be here and I think he'll restructure. Thomas is second simply because the guy has been solid ever since we picked him up last year. He also played injured.

01-21-2005, 01:49 PM	#14
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	samuels was great but i chose brown because we signed him and he was able fill in where ever we needed him and hold down the line. that was great. __________________ That got ugly fast

01-21-2005, 02:17 PM	#15
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Samuels was a better tackle than Brown, but expectations should count for something here. Many of you voted against Portis, who had a 1300 yard season, because more was expected. My Brown vote was because we expect good things out of Samuels - with Brown, you expect a mentor and a locker room influence, not a starter. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

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