(Merged) AWESOME Hogs article!!!

JWsleep · 01-24-2005, 04:13 PM

It's posted on the newswire, but I had to chime in on this. It is a GREAT article, from top to bottom. Wow, I miss those days. The ancedotes about Riggins are hilarious, and the stuff about practicle jokes on Mosley and Manley is pricless. Those were the days.

The depressing part was their (not at all surprising) feelings about Snyder. We should fax a few thousand copies of this piece to Danny-boy. If he really wants to recpature the glory, he could start by embracing the guys who made the skins great. The Hogs should have an honorary section of seats given to them for every game if they want them. Seeing Jacoby, May, Starke, etc. at Fed EX would help get the vibe right. And if Danny loves the skins as much as he claims, he ought to do this, or something like this. Show some RESPECT!!!!

Here's the link again: A trip to Hog Heaven

FRPLG · 01-24-2005, 04:15 PM

There are parts of this article that almost bring tears to my eyes...

I usually like Simmons' articles but this is one of the greatest articles ever. Man what I'd give to have this back.

gortiz · 01-24-2005, 04:26 PM

How good was that article about the hogs? As much as I enjoyed reading that, I have to say it makes me sad that we will NEVER see a group of skins like that...not with Free Agency and with all the Leon's that exsist in football, and especially because of Snyder.

I can appreciate Dan Synder and his love of the skins, but I think he will never be a succesful owner, he just does not get it man...I don't have anything against the rich and famous, but the Skins and Gibbs for the longest time had always had a blue collar type of identity....Snyder has totally killed that. That is why WE ARE HORRIBLE at FedEx , that is why the Hogs do not like Snyder.

The Skins are like Wal-Mart, or Microsoft, we are way to damn corporate. I still love this team, but that is how I see it...

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-24-2005, 04:31 PM

The fans are just as blue-collar as ever. My favorite sports memories are watching games in FedEx and RFK.

gortiz · 01-24-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

The fans are just as blue-collar as ever. My favorite sports memories are watching games in FedEx and RFK.

I don't want to lump everyone that goes to the games as yuppies, I go to at least 2 games a year every year, and I have fun at the stadium, and with the fans, no doubt, I just feel the entire culture of the skins changed quick...from Deon Sanders and charging for practices all the way to rumors about us getting a talented piece of crap like Moss....you notice how we are always first in line to get a free agent...thats sick.

azskinsfan2 · 01-24-2005, 07:11 PM

What a great article, I was laughing my ass off and about to cry at the same time!!! I agree that Danny boy should really see that article but from what I read in it, it sounded like the Hogs felt about the same way with Jack Kent Cooke. That really surprised me. I had always looked up to him because he gave us the Hogs, Riggo, Gibbs etc. I had never read anything negative about him.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-24-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gortiz

I don't want to lump everyone that goes to the games as yuppies, I go to at least 2 games a year every year, and I have fun at the stadium, and with the fans, no doubt, I just feel the entire culture of the skins changed quick...from Deon Sanders and charging for practices all the way to rumors about us getting a talented piece of crap like Moss....you notice how we are always first in line to get a free agent...thats sick.

That IS sick that maybe the management doesn't characterize the "blue-collar" working attitude that defined the days of the Hog Era, but, all bias aside, Redskins fans are the most dedicated fans in the world (and friendliest at that). All of the games I've been to, I have gotten to know each person around me in a 5 seat or more radius, I still love the atmosphere, regardless of how the management handles things.

The charging does keep some dedicated fans from coming, but think of how dedicated you have to be to pay the ridiculous prices Snyder charges to see the team you love.

gortiz · 01-24-2005, 04:32 PM

I put up my post right before reading yours....I'm not gonna repeat myself, but I agree, I somehow wish Danny could see that article...

I can only imagine though that he would look at his revenue and say the hell with the hogs and the fans, we are making $$$.

Do you think 10 years from now we will be able to read an article about Danny's skins and get all the same emotions and memories we get about the hogs, Riggo etc...??? I doubt it!

Gmanc711 · 01-24-2005, 07:25 PM

That wa a great freaking article. It wa halarious. It just reminded me though, that I didnt get to experiance any of it.

GoSkins! · 01-24-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

That wa a great freaking article. It wa halarious. It just reminded me though, that I didnt get to experiance any of it.

You missed some of the most amazing football ever. The one thing that I want to see again from Gibbs is his ability to make gametime changes. I never saw a guy so good at coming back from halftime and taking absolute control of a ball game.
Gibbs knew the hogs inside and out and found ways to overmatch them against anybody they would play. What I mean is they would lineup and just exploit a weak spot in a defense and the defense would be helpless against it. It was a thing of beauty.

Redskins8588 · 01-24-2005, 11:29 PM

I really enjoyed this article. But I have a few comments and questions.

First thing I would like to comment on is how just about everyone here said that Gibbs would not tolerate a player such as Moss and his antics, yet there was the story in this article which the Hogs stated that Gibbs and Co. would look the other way when it comes to Riggo. Kinda how Tice runs things out in Minnasota(sp) with Moss.

From the article:

"They glanced in the back and there was a groggy Riggins, lying on his back, his pants pulled down, peeing straight into the air all over himself. Gibbs and the poor coaching staff always looked the other way with Riggo, as long as he was coherent on Sundays, but this seemed a little much ... and yet the coaching staff never did anything. "They always looked the other way with him," said May. "It just wasn't Gibbs's nature to constantly battle with a player like that."

Next, I think that not only should Snyder read this article, but so should Janson, Samules, Thomas, Dockery and whoever else wants to play on our o-line. I think that they hit the nail on the head with about how they not only were teammates but also buddies on and off the field.

My question is this about FedEx Field, it seems that Snyder may be taking more heat than deserved. Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Jack Kent Cooke have the stadium built? Wasnt the name of the stadium Jack Kent Cooke Stadium? All Snyder did was rename the stadium to FedEx Field.

Maybe the Redskins are under the curse of Jack Kent Cooke!!!

SmootSmack · 01-24-2005, 11:45 PM

8588, I think you're dead on about FedEx. If anything, Snyder has made it better since he took over.

I think the Hogs are frustrated that things aren't what they once were for the Skins. They can't hold their head up high the way they once could when saying "We're Redskins"

But even if the Skins had been more successful this past decade it would be close to impossible to replicate the camraderie the Hogs had. They're all kidding themselves if they think if they were playing in this era of free agency some of them wouldn't be taking offers elsewhere

azskinsfan2 · 01-25-2005, 07:28 PM

I agree Smootsmack, but maybe we're getting some "core" players that want to stay even with free agency money calling them. Smoot has said that he wants to stay a Redskin but now sounds like he's already gone. Coach Gibbs sounds like they'll still try to keep him around. Lavar said he wants to be Redskin till the end and probably will be (although they did pay him to stick around).
But now we've got players like Antonio Pierce that is totally enthusiastic about re-signing with the Skins and says he wants to stay a Skin. Samuels is talking about restructuring his contract and says he wants to stay a Skin too!!
That's the kind of players we need on this team and once we start winning again (hopefully next season) we'll have more players wanting to be Skins!!!

01-24-2005, 04:13 PM	#1
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	AWESOME Hogs article!!! It's posted on the newswire, but I had to chime in on this. It is a GREAT article, from top to bottom. Wow, I miss those days. The ancedotes about Riggins are hilarious, and the stuff about practicle jokes on Mosley and Manley is pricless. Those were the days. The depressing part was their (not at all surprising) feelings about Snyder. We should fax a few thousand copies of this piece to Danny-boy. If he really wants to recpature the glory, he could start by embracing the guys who made the skins great. The Hogs should have an honorary section of seats given to them for every game if they want them. Seeing Jacoby, May, Starke, etc. at Fed EX would help get the vibe right. And if Danny loves the skins as much as he claims, he ought to do this, or something like this. Show some RESPECT!!!! Here's the link again: A trip to Hog Heaven __________________ Hail from Houston!

01-24-2005, 04:26 PM	#3
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	ESPN page 2 article bout the hogs How good was that article about the hogs? As much as I enjoyed reading that, I have to say it makes me sad that we will NEVER see a group of skins like that...not with Free Agency and with all the Leon's that exsist in football, and especially because of Snyder. I can appreciate Dan Synder and his love of the skins, but I think he will never be a succesful owner, he just does not get it man...I don't have anything against the rich and famous, but the Skins and Gibbs for the longest time had always had a blue collar type of identity....Snyder has totally killed that. That is why WE ARE HORRIBLE at FedEx , that is why the Hogs do not like Snyder. The Skins are like Wal-Mart, or Microsoft, we are way to damn corporate. I still love this team, but that is how I see it... Last edited by gortiz; 01-24-2005 at 04:27 PM. Reason: spelling

01-24-2005, 04:31 PM	#4
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	The fans are just as blue-collar as ever. My favorite sports memories are watching games in FedEx and RFK. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-24-2005, 07:11 PM	#6
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 68 Posts: 232	What a great article, I was laughing my ass off and about to cry at the same time!!! I agree that Danny boy should really see that article but from what I read in it, it sounded like the Hogs felt about the same way with Jack Kent Cooke. That really surprised me. I had always looked up to him because he gave us the Hogs, Riggo, Gibbs etc. I had never read anything negative about him. __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

01-24-2005, 07:25 PM	#9
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	That wa a great freaking article. It wa halarious. It just reminded me though, that I didnt get to experiance any of it. __________________ #21

01-24-2005, 04:15 PM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	There are parts of this article that almost bring tears to my eyes... I usually like Simmons' articles but this is one of the greatest articles ever. Man what I'd give to have this back.

01-24-2005, 04:32 PM	#8
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	I put up my post right before reading yours....I'm not gonna repeat myself, but I agree, I somehow wish Danny could see that article... I can only imagine though that he would look at his revenue and say the hell with the hogs and the fans, we are making $$$. Do you think 10 years from now we will be able to read an article about Danny's skins and get all the same emotions and memories we get about the hogs, Riggo etc...??? I doubt it!

01-24-2005, 11:29 PM	#11
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	I really enjoyed this article. But I have a few comments and questions. First thing I would like to comment on is how just about everyone here said that Gibbs would not tolerate a player such as Moss and his antics, yet there was the story in this article which the Hogs stated that Gibbs and Co. would look the other way when it comes to Riggo. Kinda how Tice runs things out in Minnasota(sp) with Moss. From the article: "They glanced in the back and there was a groggy Riggins, lying on his back, his pants pulled down, peeing straight into the air all over himself. Gibbs and the poor coaching staff always looked the other way with Riggo, as long as he was coherent on Sundays, but this seemed a little much ... and yet the coaching staff never did anything. "They always looked the other way with him," said May. "It just wasn't Gibbs's nature to constantly battle with a player like that." Next, I think that not only should Snyder read this article, but so should Janson, Samules, Thomas, Dockery and whoever else wants to play on our o-line. I think that they hit the nail on the head with about how they not only were teammates but also buddies on and off the field. My question is this about FedEx Field, it seems that Snyder may be taking more heat than deserved. Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Jack Kent Cooke have the stadium built? Wasnt the name of the stadium Jack Kent Cooke Stadium? All Snyder did was rename the stadium to FedEx Field. Maybe the Redskins are under the curse of Jack Kent Cooke!!! __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

01-24-2005, 11:45 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	8588, I think you're dead on about FedEx. If anything, Snyder has made it better since he took over. I think the Hogs are frustrated that things aren't what they once were for the Skins. They can't hold their head up high the way they once could when saying "We're Redskins" But even if the Skins had been more successful this past decade it would be close to impossible to replicate the camraderie the Hogs had. They're all kidding themselves if they think if they were playing in this era of free agency some of them wouldn't be taking offers elsewhere __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-25-2005, 07:28 PM	#13
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 68 Posts: 232	I agree Smootsmack, but maybe we're getting some "core" players that want to stay even with free agency money calling them. Smoot has said that he wants to stay a Redskin but now sounds like he's already gone. Coach Gibbs sounds like they'll still try to keep him around. Lavar said he wants to be Redskin till the end and probably will be (although they did pay him to stick around). But now we've got players like Antonio Pierce that is totally enthusiastic about re-signing with the Skins and says he wants to stay a Skin. Samuels is talking about restructuring his contract and says he wants to stay a Skin too!! That's the kind of players we need on this team and once we start winning again (hopefully next season) we'll have more players wanting to be Skins!!! __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

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