How would you feel if Shanahan benches RGIII?

[KI Skins Fan]

I would have no problem with it because we're out of the playoffs, it would protect RGIII from further injury, and Cousins could use the work.

[SFREDSKIN]

It would give a chance to showcase Cousins whether it's good or bad.

[Chief X_Phackter]

If he is your QB going forward then he needs to play out the season. You can't just sit him because NOW you are worried he may get hurt or aggravate the injury. If that was the case, he shouldn't have been playing at all this year. RGIII is the one that needs the work. Time under center will benefit him in the long run, not time on the bench.

[Chico23231]

To me its accessing blame to someone who is not to blame at all. How about play some young guys to turn it around and stick with your leader. Its irresponsible and detrimental to the psyche of the team going into the offseason imo.

[MTK]

Let's call it what is really is, a BS move on Shanny's part to further tick off Snyder. This is Shanny's version of the swinging gate play.

He's not concerned with RG's health, otherwise why trot him out there on a snowy and sloppy field last week? Why didn't he have him sit out the first few games of the season? And why aren't other key players getting sat down to protect them as well?

Calling it anything other than a power play is just naive.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Let's call it what is really is, a BS move on Shanny's part to further tick off Snyder. This is Shanny's version of the swinging gate play.

He's not concerned with RG's health, otherwise why trot him out there on a snowy and sloppy field last week? Why didn't he have him sit out the first few games of the season? And why aren't other key players getting sat down to protect them as well?

Calling it anything other than a power play is just naive.

THIS. If it were not for THIS; I'd be 100% in favor of it.

I still am in favor with the idea of it. Not that its RG3's fault, but I've said since it was obvious we were gonna suck; I'd let Cousins go to be sure RG3 is healthy and try to drive his stock up and trade him. Maybe he sucks and it goes down; but I don't know what the market would really be for the guy.

I cannot wait for December 30th, this season to be over and Shanahan to be gone.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Let's call it what is really is, a BS move on Shanny's part to further tick off Snyder. This is Shanny's version of the swinging gate play.

He's not concerned with RG's health, otherwise why trot him out there on a snowy and sloppy field last week? Why didn't he have him sit out the first few games of the season? And why aren't other key players getting sat down to protect them as well?

Calling it anything other than a power play is just naive.

Right, and if he sits him he should be fired...which is probably what he wants at this point anyway. Let him go and he can take all three coordinators with him.

Hard for me to believe this is where we are right now considering the optimism I had about 33 months ago.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Let's call it what is really is, a BS move on Shanny's part to further tick off Snyder. This is Shanny's version of the swinging gate play.

He's not concerned with RG's health, otherwise why trot him out there on a snowy and sloppy field last week? Why didn't he have him sit out the first few games of the season? And why aren't other key players getting sat down to protect them as well?

Calling it anything other than a power play is just naive.

Right. To me its a fireable offense. For cause.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Let's call it what is really is, a BS move on Shanny's part to further tick off Snyder. This is Shanny's version of the swinging gate play.

He's not concerned with RG's health, otherwise why trot him out there on a snowy and sloppy field last week? Why didn't he have him sit out the first few games of the season? And why aren't other key players getting sat down to protect them as well?

Calling it anything other than a power play is just naive.

What you say may be true but I don't care if Shanny has some devious reason (or a good one, for that matter) for benching RGIII.

What I care about is getting RGIII off the field so that Kyle doesn't have any more opportunities to do something stupid, like running the Triple Option, to get RGIII seriously injured again. I want the new Head Coach to have a healthy RGIII.

How do you know that Dan Snyder doesn't feel the same way I do, knowing that he is going to be starting over after this season and probably fearing, as I do, that another serious injury to RGIII could be the coup de grace to this horrible season?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

What you say may be true but I don't care if Shanny has some devious reason (or a good one, for that matter) for benching RGIII.

What I care about is getting RGIII off the field so that Kyle doesn't have any more opportunities to do something stupid, like running the Triple Option, to get RGIII seriously injured again. I want the new Head Coach to have a healthy RGIII.

How do you know that Dan Snyder doesn't feel the same way I do, knowing that he is going to be starting over after this season and probably fearing, as I do, that another serious injury to RGIII could be the coup de grace to this horrible season?

Fine, let's sit all the starters then if we're concerned about player health.

I don't want to lose the likes of Morris, Garcon, Williams, Orakpo, etc.

Sit 'em all down.

Why did he take Shanahan 5 games and 24 sacks to finally become concerned about RG?

[calia]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Fine, let's sit all the starters then if we're concerned about player health.

I don't want to lose the likes of Morris, Garcon, Williams, Orakpo, etc.

Sit 'em all down.

Why did he take Shanahan 5 games and 24 sacks to finally become concerned about RG?

Better still, let's see if the league will let us forfeit the rest of the season so no one gets hurt. (It isn't as though anyone is particularly enthusiastic about watching this train wreck of a team at this point. We're going to lose out -- everyone knows it.)

OK, in all seriousness, what an incredible mess. I cannot recall a team more in disarray that this year's Redskins. Even the Buttfumble Jets have managed to salvage something of a season. Same with the Meangirls Dolphins. Detroit has about 1/3 of its active roster arrested in the last year (the ones that weren't driving while texting and eating burning pizza and crashing their SUVs), and they can at least occasionally put a watchable product on the field. (And, for all our bitching about Vinny, recall that they had Matt Millen -- the Midwest Vinny -- for a long time. Somehow, they have serious weapons on both sides of the ball.) Look at the Patriots -- the little distraction of Hernandez didn't seem to derail that team (nor has the fact that they have little running game and receivers that no one on ths site has ever heard of). But they have their 10 Ws.

I am f_ing sick of it. Nearly 40 years of being a fan, and I cannot recall being more pessimistic about the franchise.

Shanahan -- don't sit RGIII. Don't act like you give a shit now, as the playcalling (by someone over whom I suspect you have some modicum of influence) hasn't reflected great concern for his safety. Let him play and do something -- anything -- to give him a fighting chance out there. If DY is back this week, that ought to help with protection. But the game of football is going to involve the risk of some "owies" (quoth Zorn). Suck it up. Everyone. Get out there and play with a little anger -- let Atlanta feel a little of the frustration you have to be feeling right now. F_ing man up. All of you.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by calia

... OK, in all seriousness, what an incredible mess. I cannot recall a team more in disarray that this year's Redskins[.]

Except that, the disarray has really only come to the fore in the last week or so and then KA-BLAMO industrial sized sh** was hitting an industrial sized fan.

The locker room, by all accounts held together through all of this. It is only after MS started clearly mapping an exit strategy that things went to hell. It started three weeks ago with the listless showing on Monday Night followed by the loss to the Giants. Prior to that, there was a lot of the right things being said by all the right people - even if something was boiling under it all.

Houston fires Kubiak, Mike sees an exit strategy and ta-daaa ... the Man With A Plan, who exerts autocratic control over all football related matters, starts having to deal with "leaks" about his relationship with the QB, his relationship with the owner and with his feelings about last year.

This is the Mike Shanahan ego show - he is simply to brilliant for any failure to be attributed to him.

Over the last four years, I firmly believe he laid a good foundation with some solid young talent and an emphasis on character and team. Unfortunately, he can't seem to leave without doing his best to undo the good he did.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Let's call it what is really is, a BS move on Shanny's part to further tick off Snyder. This is Shanny's version of the swinging gate play.

He's not concerned with RG's health, otherwise why trot him out there on a snowy and sloppy field last week? Why didn't he have him sit out the first few games of the season? And why aren't other key players getting sat down to protect them as well?

Calling it anything other than a power play is just naive.

No denying this but Redskins fans have to live with the outcome regardless of why things are done.

I think starting Cousins is a win-win situation.
RG3 is not 100% so no reason to risk injury now, he is the franchise regardless of what anybody thinks. That's what three #1s dictate.

Cousins could use the experience.

RG3 needs to sit and watch. I think he should share a little blame in this giant mess and I hope sitting him humbles him a bit. It would be great if Cousins ran the offense better than RG3 so he can realize he still needs a lot of work and his athleticism is only a small part of playing QB.

No matter what happens, Shanahan is going to spin it in his favor.
If cousins does great, he will say RG3 was forced on him.
If cousins sucks, he will say they don't have the personnel to run his offense.

I only hope the backup linemen get a chance to play too.

Can't wait for the next chapter...

[mooby]

Originally Posted by jamf

No denying this but Redskins fans have to live with the outcome regardless of why things are done.

I think starting Cousins is a win-win situation.
RG3 is not 100% so no reason to risk injury now, he is the franchise regardless of what anybody thinks. That's what three #1s dictate.

Cousins could use the experience.

RG3 needs to sit and watch. I think he should share a little blame in this giant mess and I hope sitting him humbles him a bit. It would be great if Cousins ran the offense better than RG3 so he can realize he still needs a lot of work and his athleticism is only a small part of playing QB.

No matter what happens, Shanahan is going to spin it in his favor.
If cousins does great, he will say RG3 was forced on him.
If cousins sucks, he will say they don't have the personnel to run his offense.

I only hope the backup linemen get a chance to play too.

Can't wait for the next chapter...

Idk, I feel like benching RG3 would be a bad idea. There's plenty to lose by starting Kirk Cousins. What if he plays terribly and destroys his trade value? What if he gets injured and all his potential suitors take offers off the table? What if the highly unlikely scenario plays out where he plays elite and then there's a qb controversy next year? There's too many scenarios where this doesn't work for me. Kevin Kolb played 3 games as a starter for the Eagles before they bilked the Cards out of a starter and a 2nd round pick. It just seems like the bench RG3 crowd (which I'm not including you in because the other people have been a lot more vocal about) doesn't look at all the scenarios that could happen if RG3 is benched.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by jamf

No denying this but Redskins fans have to live with the outcome regardless of why things are done.

I think starting Cousins is a win-win situation.
RG3 is not 100% so no reason to risk injury now, he is the franchise regardless of what anybody thinks. That's what three #1s dictate.

Cousins could use the experience.

RG3 needs to sit and watch. I think he should share a little blame in this giant mess and I hope sitting him humbles him a bit. It would be great if Cousins ran the offense better than RG3 so he can realize he still needs a lot of work and his athleticism is only a small part of playing QB.

No matter what happens, Shanahan is going to spin it in his favor.
If cousins does great, he will say RG3 was forced on him.
If cousins sucks, he will say they don't have the personnel to run his offense.

I only hope the backup linemen get a chance to play too.

Can't wait for the next chapter...

I actually don't think it would be a bad thing to sit RGIII -- regardless of the possible ulterior motives of Mike Shanahan. Griffin comes across a cerebral sort of character, and looking at the game from a different vantage point along with time to reflect from a mental point of view might really do him some good.

And, there is some truth to the idea that fearing for the man's health is a legitimate concern. Maybe playing in the ice storm is what alerted the coaching staff to that. And really -- wouldn't it be final gut punch of this horrific season to see Griffin suffer another significant injury in the final three meaningless games?

It wouldn't be the end of the world if #10 watches from the sidelines for a few games.