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jordanz301 · 03-24-2005, 05:38 PM

i jst watched nfl network and according to solomom wilcox were fine with rod gardner.....also according to him santana trade was a bust........tell me what u think about all of this especially da gardner part

RedskinRat · 03-24-2005, 05:49 PM

Bit early to call a trade a bust......

wolfeskins · 03-24-2005, 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Bit early to call a trade a bust......

agree with you, i do.

jordanz301 · 03-24-2005, 05:55 PM

lemme reword it he didnt say it was a bust he said it was a bad move nd not close to a upgrade

Yellow31 · 03-24-2005, 06:04 PM

According to him the skins would have been fine with 2 players --coles and gardner who didn't want to be there. This is why he is an analyst and not a coach or personnel guy. To me those are just STUPID statements because they have nothing to talk about on the NFL network so lets make some stuff up.

skinsguy · 03-24-2005, 06:42 PM

I watched the samething on the NFL Network and they haven't taken into consideration all the facts. If both Moss and Coles were 100%, ability wise I would take Coles because I think he is an all around better receiver, however, you have to add into the fact of him not wanting to be in Washington and also Coles not being 100%. Still, it's way too early to state it was a bad move.....

RedskinRat · 03-24-2005, 07:27 PM

Anyone else remember how bad a move we made with Darryl Gardner?

It just seems to me that the media want the Redskins to lose.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-24-2005, 07:47 PM

They'll be the first ones to be like, "We believed in Gibbs all along!" too.

Daseal · 03-24-2005, 11:21 PM

Malcolm - I've heard very few people say Gibbs can't do it. I've heard a lot more say it will take him time. Which, though we hoped wouldn't be the case, is what he needs. I just hope with a full offseason and a new voice in his ear the offense can change a bit.

SmootSmack · 03-24-2005, 11:23 PM

But there have been those, like Bradshaw, who have said he should have never come back

MTK · 03-25-2005, 10:35 AM

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But there have been those, like Bradshaw, who have said he should have never come back

Bradshaw as I recall was very critical of Gibbs and basically said it's a young man's game nowadays for coaches and the older coaches can't hack it anymore.

Jimmy Johnson was quick to point out coaches like Vermeil, Parcells, Marty, etc., and of course Bradshaw just shrugged his shoulders and didn't have much to say.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-25-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Malcolm - I've heard very few people say Gibbs can't do it. I've heard a lot more say it will take him time. Which, though we hoped wouldn't be the case, is what he needs. I just hope with a full offseason and a new voice in his ear the offense can change a bit.

Definitely. I was really all about the hire of Musgrave. I was reading more about it and he has been the coach behind a lot of great quarterbacks. I know everyone was afraid that he would "change" the offense. He is quarterback coach and I think he will be great for Ramsey.

monk81 · 03-25-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Malcolm - I've heard very few people say Gibbs can't do it. I've heard a lot more say it will take him time. Which, though we hoped wouldn't be the case, is what he needs. I just hope with a full offseason and a new voice in his ear the offense can change a bit.

I've heard more media folks say Gibbs has been out of the game too long, they won't give him a chance. UNLESS they are an ex-Redskin in the media, Mark Schlereth, Joe Theismann etc.

It's funny how Parcells gets LESS criticism than Joe, when Parcells is in his SECOND year in the NFL with an identical record to Gibbs who is in his FIRST year. Give Gibbs a break, he needs a chance to get his bearings on the game, and get the personnel he wants in place to fit his system. Parcell's has also made bad moves with his personnel--ie Vinny instead of developing a younger QB , and Eddie George was a bust too. They made one good draft choice in Julius Jones, but I haven't heard of any other pick panning out. Yet the media won't say a bad word about "ST." Parcells.........
Gibbs gets all the criticism, media just hates us, I don't know if it's because of our media perceived "unpolitically correct name", or hatred of our front office.....and it's not just Snyder....they did not much like The Squire either.

BigSKINBauer · 03-25-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Malcolm - I've heard quiet few people say Gibbs can't do it. I've heard a lot more say it will take him time. Which, though we hoped wouldn't be the case, is what he needs. I just hope with a full offseason and a new voice in his ear the offense can change a bit.

But i have heard people say that they don't want to critisize the great gibbs but they feel he just isn't ready. I mean i know that we lost to dallas twice but every media person says parcells is better i mean 2-3 superbowls and parcells needed help in getting those.

Most of the media that critisizes is on fox and ESPN

Daseal · 03-24-2005, 11:30 PM

You named one person, and were you watching that? See how long it took for Bradshaw to say that? I think it was more for effect than anything. Don't get me wrong, announcers change allegiance with the blow of a wind - but I haven't heard many say that he can't do it. That's a little early the first year back, the 2nd I can understand, the 3rd I can definitely see. If there's little to no improvement.

03-24-2005, 05:38 PM	#1
jordanz301 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: damascus, maryland Age: 37 Posts: 161	nfl network i jst watched nfl network and according to solomom wilcox were fine with rod gardner.....also according to him santana trade was a bust........tell me what u think about all of this especially da gardner part

03-24-2005, 05:49 PM	#2
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: nfl network Bit early to call a trade a bust......

03-24-2005, 05:55 PM	#3
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: nfl network [QUOTE=RedskinRat]Bit early to call a trade a bust...... agree with you, i do.

03-24-2005, 05:55 PM	#4
jordanz301 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: damascus, maryland Age: 37 Posts: 161	Re: nfl network lemme reword it he didnt say it was a bust he said it was a bad move nd not close to a upgrade

03-24-2005, 06:04 PM	#5
Yellow31 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 125	Re: nfl network According to him the skins would have been fine with 2 players --coles and gardner who didn't want to be there. This is why he is an analyst and not a coach or personnel guy. To me those are just STUPID statements because they have nothing to talk about on the NFL network so lets make some stuff up.

03-24-2005, 06:42 PM	#6
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: nfl network I watched the samething on the NFL Network and they haven't taken into consideration all the facts. If both Moss and Coles were 100%, ability wise I would take Coles because I think he is an all around better receiver, however, you have to add into the fact of him not wanting to be in Washington and also Coles not being 100%. Still, it's way too early to state it was a bad move..... __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

03-24-2005, 07:27 PM	#7
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: nfl network Anyone else remember how bad a move we made with Darryl Gardner? It just seems to me that the media want the Redskins to lose.

03-24-2005, 07:47 PM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: nfl network They'll be the first ones to be like, "We believed in Gibbs all along!" too. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-24-2005, 11:21 PM	#9
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: nfl network Malcolm - I've heard very few people say Gibbs can't do it. I've heard a lot more say it will take him time. Which, though we hoped wouldn't be the case, is what he needs. I just hope with a full offseason and a new voice in his ear the offense can change a bit.

03-24-2005, 11:23 PM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: nfl network But there have been those, like Bradshaw, who have said he should have never come back __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-24-2005, 11:30 PM	#15
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: nfl network You named one person, and were you watching that? See how long it took for Bradshaw to say that? I think it was more for effect than anything. Don't get me wrong, announcers change allegiance with the blow of a wind - but I haven't heard many say that he can't do it. That's a little early the first year back, the 2nd I can understand, the 3rd I can definitely see. If there's little to no improvement. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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