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Old 04-12-2005, 10:35 AM   #1
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Man, things are looking bad right now.

The Coles situation, Losing Fred Smoot and Antonio Pierce, Santana Moss and Sean Taylor not working out, and now Lavar has had another setback and is complaining about the coaches. This offseason is giving me little hope. What is the Redskin front office doing so poorly? Why don't people want to be here? I have been really excited up until now, but it seems that maybe we bit off more than we can chew here. Are we really heading in the right direction? I'm really bummed out. Anyone got anything to say to cheer me up?
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:40 AM   #2
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

Could it be our new team President isn't at all a personel person?

Hope that cheers you up.

Seriously - Schedule comes out tomorrow (I think) and the draft is the 23rd!
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:52 AM   #3
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

We've had some really great offseasons recently. I'll take a crappy one if it means we have a better season I'll put up with the trauma now.
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:53 AM   #4
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

Simply put, We do not win. Thats it hands down. This front office tries to buy a championship every year and it always fails. Lavar doesn't bother me anyway cause he is only going to get hurt again. And just blaim someone else for his injury. Until we start winning is when things will start to change.
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:57 AM   #5
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

I think we have gotten used to a lot of xcitement in the offseason because of all the new and high profile players we bring in. This is a good thing and we shall be better for it.. I rather get xcited about this team in October November rather than now, when nothing counts.
On LC situation.. I really liked the player and his work ethic, but if a guy does not want to play for u, u have no other choice, but to let him go. The only thing I was never sure about from the begining was about moss. He is usually injured and has a knack of being quite in games. I think we should have tried to pry their 1st round pick instead of SM and drafted a WR instead. But it's a little too late to think about that now.
That's my 2 cents

P.S.: I recently met this couple who were Redskins fan here in Austin TX and it made my day. It was nice talking to some 'skins fan and talking about the team. HTTR!!! Go 'skins!!!


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The Coles situation, Losing Fred Smoot and Antonio Pierce, Santana Moss and Sean Taylor not working out, and now Lavar has had another setback and is complaining about the coaches. This offseason is giving me little hope. What is the Redskin front office doing so poorly? Why don't people want to be here? I have been really excited up until now, but it seems that maybe we bit off more than we can chew here. Are we really heading in the right direction? I'm really bummed out. Anyone got anything to say to cheer me up?
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:54 PM   #6
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

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I think we have gotten used to a lot of xcitement in the offseason because of all the new and high profile players we bring in. This is a good thing and we shall be better for it.. I rather get xcited about this team in October November rather than now, when nothing counts.
On LC situation.. I really liked the player and his work ethic, but if a guy does not want to play for u, u have no other choice, but to let him go. The only thing I was never sure about from the begining was about moss. He is usually injured and has a knack of being quite in games. I think we should have tried to pry their 1st round pick instead of SM and drafted a WR instead. But it's a little too late to think about that now.
That's my 2 cents

P.S.: I recently met this couple who were Redskins fan here in Austin TX and it made my day. It was nice talking to some 'skins fan and talking about the team. HTTR!!! Go 'skins!!!

Arrington...now you know another Redskin fan in the Austin area (Cedar Park). I just moved here from FL and the dish is set, Sundays at my house!
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:05 AM   #7
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

Don't blow things out of proportion. The LaVar thing is barely a bump in the road. He's frustrated by his injury and he's spouting off.

Losing Smoot and Pierce hurt, but that's the name of the free agency game, and for once we finally came up short.

The sky isn't falling in Redskins land. Every team has their share of offseason headaches, and for once we're seeing the other side of things. We're usually beating our chests this time of year bragging about all our acquisitions, so that's probably why this offseason feels so bad.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:24 AM   #8
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

I think it is a combination of a lot of things. Most of all the media coverage distorts the perceptions of the organization.

- Snyder is a marked man within media organizations. He makes for good discussion and is a guy that the media loves to hype as hated. By extension the Skins are brought into the whole muck.
- Gibbs is back and everyone expected that we as fans expected we would go 16-0 and win the Superbowl 70-0 and we didn't.
- They are the team in Washington DC. The biggest sensationalistic media outlet in the world. The media coverage of EVERYTHING in DC is ridiculous and overblown.

All this combines to give off a really distorted perception of the team. I am not saying there are not issues but I would argue there are issues like this with EVERY team in sports. No one talks about about the issues like this in New England. Who gives much of a crap about the Patriots besides New England? They are a boring team with a boring owner and a more boring coach in a boring environment(compared to DC). It is not much fun to talk about this type of stuff with them. Plus of course the cure for all of this is to start winning.
The Skins are not worse off than most of the teams in football. Things could be better of course but I am not going to start panicing because we have issues like this. It is an organizations of hundreds of human beings. Human beuings are going to argue, bicker, mouth off, be lazy, give a great effort, be suppotive, and anything else that humans do. It is not realistic to expect everyone to act like little automotrons with no thought and emotion. The Skins are fine.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:54 AM   #9
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

There is no bigger fan of Lavar then me. I love 56, But he needs to shut up and get heath and worrie about winning football games. All these players wanting to work better deals i.e. ( Taylor, Moss, Lavar, and who ever else) needs to win something before you start asking for some more money.

Like Doc Walker says none of these player have won jack sh-it. So all I want to hear is how are we going to win more ball games and I'm sick of losing too Dallas twice a freaking year. I'm sick of players bitching who haven't won jack sh-t.

This team is headed in the right direction. How do I know Joe gibbs. three Super bowls and two Nascar Championships. That's right I said Championships....LAVAR..........I don't need to hear guys bitching about a guy who has won Championships.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:00 PM   #10
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

Easy, easy. I echo Matty. There is nothing here to panic about.

Yes, we lost Fred Smoot. But did you see the job Walt Harris did on Randy Moss in week 17? He's a fine CB.

Yes we lost Antonio Pierce. But Lemar Marshall is good and may be able to fill the role nicely.

Since when does players not participating in voluntary practice mean they won't participate in games? I for one feel this has no impact on anything.

There are positives, we did pick up David Patten and Casey Rabach. Patten will give us speed, whether Moss is hurt or not. We should be able to stretch the field. Rabach can get out on screens and pull a lot better than Raymer, so our run blocking should be upgraded. And, from a personnel standpoint, the biggest reason to feel good is Jansen's return. The line should be much more athletic this year.

#1 overall reason for optimism: Ramsey is the starting QB, not Brunell. The offense under Ramsey during the last 7 games moved the ball effectively, with a 80+ QB rating compared to Brunell's dismal 63. In the last 5 games, the Skins were 3-2, including a very competitive game against the Eagles. Quality teaching and gameplanning are the keys in the NFL, not personnel acquisition. And finally, finally, we have good coaches in place for more than one year at a time, ready to teach and lead the team to success.

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15th ranked offense in the league
5th ranked defense in the league including a +10 (or more) turnover ratio
10-6, wildcard playoff berth
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Old 04-12-2005, 02:51 PM   #11
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

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Prediction:
15th ranked offense in the league
5th ranked defense in the league including a +10 (or more) turnover ratio
10-6, wildcard playoff berth
i can live with that!
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:18 PM   #12
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

FRPLG:

If you want to console yourself by blaming the media for this, you can do that; but realistically, the Washington media - as it pertains to the Redskins - are pussycats. The media in NYC and Philly - just to name two other nearby outlets are monsters next to the sycophants here in DC. Don't confuse the political reporters here with the sports guys; they aren't nearly the same.

Danny Boy is one of several owners in the NFL who are always under scrutiny and take a large measure of criticism. But if you think Danny Boy is any more a "marked man" that Al Davis or Jerry Jones or Red McCombs - just to name three others - you're feeling a bit too sorry for yourself. All of these owners who seem to be "sh*t magnets" bring that on themselves with their behaviors so none of them really has a lot of complaining room. Danny Boy fits right in with that cadre of NFL owners.

Here is what bothers me the most about this story.

It is understandable that LaVar Arrington is frustrated by his injury and its failure to heal completely and quickly. Every injury he ever had before this one behaved that way. So, this one is not doing what all the other ones did and that is frustrating. No problem there.

It is understandable that he will try to find an explanation for the fact that this injury is acting differently. In addition to the knee itself, who or what else is there to blame? The surgeon? The training staff? The coaches who work with him? His teammates? Opposing players? The practice facilities where he reinjured the knee? The intergalactic visitors from the Xygork Nebula? There aren't many places for him to vent his frustration and he picked the coaches/trainers/organization as the target for the venting.

OK, I can live with that but then he went just a bit further and brought up "the grievance" and the fact that the date for the hearing was put off at the team's request and they have not rescheduled a date. THAT is what bothers me.

There is a difference between saying that he is frustrated with the coaches and/or the trainers and he is now going to focus only on getting his knee better on one hand and saying that the organization is "against him" and that they are manipulating his grievance procedures and that proves his point.

THAT aspect of this disagreement is far more disruptive and debilitating than any disagreement he might have with Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams or Bubba Tyrer because winning a few games will cure all of that. But that six million dollar dispute is obviously still a big deal with him and that is not going away any time soon - - since no hearing date has yet been scheduled.

Now that is disturbing...
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:29 PM   #13
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

I'm glade we had an slow offseason and the players we have loss o'well. We have had busy offseasons for the past four to five years and what good has come from it, None. Things happen for a reason and what might look bad this offseason may just turn out to be a blessing in disguise. All we can do is wait and see how this season pans out for us and hopefully it will be for the best.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:29 PM   #14
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#1 overall reason for optimism: Ramsey is the starting QB, not Brunell. The offense under Ramsey during the last 7 games moved the ball effectively, with a 80+ QB rating compared to Brunell's dismal 63. In the last 5 games, the Skins were 3-2, including a very competitive game against the Eagles. Quality teaching and gameplanning are the keys in the NFL, not personnel acquisition. And finally, finally, we have good coaches in place for more than one year at a time, ready to teach and lead the team to success.

And our record under your hero Ramsey was and has been?????????
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:35 PM   #15
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Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.

At least this site never looked bad..until SKINZ_DOMIN8 registered
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