Something new to bitch about

Balmerskinsfan · 04-13-2005, 01:46 PM

All the talk about problem Skins has me thinking that we're not heaping enough abuse on the guy that really deserves it. I just took another look at Brunell's contract. I hated this deal when it happened, and I hate it even more now.
Contract:
Current Contract: 7 years, $43.36 million, $8.6 million signing bonus.
Base Salaries: 2004: $760K; 2005: $1.5 million; 2006: $4 million; 2007: $5.2 million; 2008: $6.4 million; 2009: $7.6 million; 2010: $8.8 million.
Contract Notes: Roster bonus of $500K in 2005

I can't think of a better example of front office bungling resulting in such gross overpayment to an undeserving bum since the Deion deal. What in the world are we going to do with this guy? We can't trade him, and if we cut him we're going to be in even more cap hell. Anybody have any thoughts?

Gmanc711 · 04-13-2005, 01:52 PM

I have no idea; we have to pray for an uncapped year in 2007. Although if the cap goes away...it aint ever comin back; which I dont know if it would be good for the game. I think thats somthing we should kick around; but year this deal sucks.

skinsguy · 04-13-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I have no idea; we have to pray for an uncapped year in 2007. Although if the cap goes away...it aint ever comin back; which I dont know if it would be good for the game. I think thats somthing we should kick around; but year this deal sucks.

I say get rid of the salary cap....I suppose we would still have free agency, but if a team is willing to pay the bucks (without restrictions) to keep their players, let it happen. Just hope it happens after we get a really good team together!

djnemo65 · 04-14-2005, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

I say get rid of the salary cap....I suppose we would still have free agency, but if a team is willing to pay the bucks (without restrictions) to keep their players, let it happen. Just hope it happens after we get a really good team together!

Oh come one, are you serious? Have you noticed how baseball sucks and football is awesome? Yeah, that's the salary cap. I know it would help the Skins, but you would have 15 teams that could never compete. Say goodbye to the Packers, Colts, Chiefs, Vikings, etc.

Redskins_P · 04-13-2005, 02:26 PM

Damn, talk about backloading a contract!

e16bball · 04-13-2005, 02:47 PM

Yes but if you take a look at the salary cap spreadsheet on this very site, you will see that we can release Brunell after June 1, 2006 for a minimal cap hit. Which I can only assume we will do, because that contract defines the word exorbitant.

JWsleep · 04-13-2005, 02:52 PM

Brunnell will be out the door so fast on June 1, 2006 that it will be almost funny, if his being here until then weren't so damn painful.

We should probaly mark that day on the calendar and have some kind of party...

skins009 · 04-13-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

Brunnell will be out the door so fast on June 1, 2006 that it will be almost funny, if his being here until then weren't so damn painful.

We should probaly mark that day on the calendar and have some kind of party...

Hahaha thats funny as shit.

firstdown · 04-13-2005, 02:53 PM

I do not understand the salery cap stuff. Can someone tell me what would be the consequences if we let him go in 06 or he retired in 06?

FRPLG · 04-13-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I do not understand the salery cap stuff. Can someone tell me what would be the consequences if we let him go in 06 or he retired in 06?

Looks like if he was cut or retired after June 1 2006 he would count 1,433,000 against our 06 cap and 4,300,000 aganist our 07 cap.

JoeRedskin · 04-13-2005, 02:55 PM

Sorry - but since when has bitching about Brunnell (either his play or his contract) qualified as "new stuff"? I thought we had flayed that horse into puppy chow already.

SmootSmack · 04-13-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Sorry - but since when has bitching about Brunnell (either his play or his contract) qualified as "new stuff"? I thought we had flayed that horse into puppy chow already.

Totally agree. Let's talk about something more relevant...like, was it really Spurrier's fault?

SKINSnCANES · 04-13-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Totally agree. Let's talk about something more relevant...like, was it really Spurrier's fault?

hahah, yea, lets chalk this up as one of Spurriers bad moves

Daseal · 04-13-2005, 03:01 PM

Is that his restructured contract? Or his original?

joethiesmanfan · 04-13-2005, 03:30 PM

i just dont like it when players like smoot are laughed at for asking for 3 million more that hurt team unity. you want playes to have team unity but you cant pay smoot because of brunnell? that makes arrington say i want my money they paying this bum but cant pay me? that makes sean taylor say man i got screwed its reasonlable to ask for an adjustment look at brunnell? that makes moss say man, i dont know if i can trust these guys so its all business first then i play your team man part. i can understand that. brunnell is a cancer to the team.

04-13-2005, 01:46 PM	#1
Balmerskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 66	Something new to bitch about All the talk about problem Skins has me thinking that we're not heaping enough abuse on the guy that really deserves it. I just took another look at Brunell's contract. I hated this deal when it happened, and I hate it even more now. Contract: Current Contract: 7 years, $43.36 million, $8.6 million signing bonus. Base Salaries: 2004: $760K; 2005: $1.5 million; 2006: $4 million; 2007: $5.2 million; 2008: $6.4 million; 2009: $7.6 million; 2010: $8.8 million. Contract Notes: Roster bonus of $500K in 2005 I can't think of a better example of front office bungling resulting in such gross overpayment to an undeserving bum since the Deion deal. What in the world are we going to do with this guy? We can't trade him, and if we cut him we're going to be in even more cap hell. Anybody have any thoughts?

04-13-2005, 01:52 PM	#2
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Something new to bitch about I have no idea; we have to pray for an uncapped year in 2007. Although if the cap goes away...it aint ever comin back; which I dont know if it would be good for the game. I think thats somthing we should kick around; but year this deal sucks. __________________ #21

04-13-2005, 02:26 PM	#5
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	Re: Something new to bitch about Damn, talk about backloading a contract!

04-13-2005, 02:47 PM	#6
e16bball Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 163	Re: Something new to bitch about Yes but if you take a look at the salary cap spreadsheet on this very site, you will see that we can release Brunell after June 1, 2006 for a minimal cap hit. Which I can only assume we will do, because that contract defines the word exorbitant.

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JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Something new to bitch about Brunnell will be out the door so fast on June 1, 2006 that it will be almost funny, if his being here until then weren't so damn painful. We should probaly mark that day on the calendar and have some kind of party... __________________ Hail from Houston!

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firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Something new to bitch about I do not understand the salery cap stuff. Can someone tell me what would be the consequences if we let him go in 06 or he retired in 06?

04-13-2005, 02:55 PM	#11
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Something new to bitch about Sorry - but since when has bitching about Brunnell (either his play or his contract) qualified as "new stuff"? I thought we had flayed that horse into puppy chow already.

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Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Something new to bitch about Is that his restructured contract? Or his original? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-13-2005, 03:30 PM	#15
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Something new to bitch about i just dont like it when players like smoot are laughed at for asking for 3 million more that hurt team unity. you want playes to have team unity but you cant pay smoot because of brunnell? that makes arrington say i want my money they paying this bum but cant pay me? that makes sean taylor say man i got screwed its reasonlable to ask for an adjustment look at brunnell? that makes moss say man, i dont know if i can trust these guys so its all business first then i play your team man part. i can understand that. brunnell is a cancer to the team.

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