Will Jay's offense follow Scott's lead?

[30gut]

Jay Gruden Pass ratio: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct
Bengals
2013-57
2012-58
2011-56

Washington
2014-60% pass (#15 in the NFL)

Just for frame of reference:

Seattle: 49% pass (#31 in the NFL)
San Fran:53% pass (#26 in the NFL)
Green Bay: 56% pass (#23 in the NFL)

We've all heard the soundbites of McCloughan of his vision for the offense which he seems to bring with him from Seattle and San Fran:

“We have a similar philosophy about big guys, smart guys, tough guys. We want to be able to run the ball, be able to pound the ball and get that D-line to want to quit and understand that when you play the Washington Redskins, we’ll come at you no matter what.”

But for me when I look at Scott's vision it doesn't seem to mesh with what we know of Jay's history and tendencies. I've posted Jay play calling/game plan tendencies in regards to pass/run ratio above. Jay has been a pass focused OC and even moreso as a HC. Marvin Lewis, a decidedly defensive oriented HC was able to limit Jay's pass focus to ~57%. (in his absence they've dropped to 52% pass) But last year when Jay had total control his pass % jumped up to 60%.

I see 2 distinct offensive philosophies when I look at Jay and Scott and I wonder whether or not Jay will follow Scott's lead or will Jay maintain his offensive philosophy/tendencies?

Enough of the preamble....do you think Jay's pass ratio will drop to reflect a shift to being more run focused? And do you want it to?

(was gonna make a poll but didn't see the poll option)

[Meks]

He did say there would be some re working of the offense, I'm hoping it includes running the ball more often and MUCH more creatively ... I was oft very tired of seeing the same stretch run 10 times a game... So, honestly I hope we change the run scheme up a bit... And run it more, if it doesn't happen? Get ready for semi similar results on that side of the ball.

[Skinzman]

I personally think defense has a say in those ratios. San fran and Seattle have defenses that dont need an offense to score 30 points to win a game (they also have/had top running backs. Seattle having the best in the business). The GB one does surprise me though. Maybe defenses just concentrate to much on Aaron Rodgers and they are smart enough to see it. Granted Lacy is starting to come into his own. If we show defensive improvement, I think that number drops. If our defense is still bad, that number stays high.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Meks

He did say there would be some re working of the offense...

He being Jay?

I recall Bruce Allen hinting here: Bruce Allen says changes coming to Washington Redskins' offense - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN that there would be changes to the offense but I don't recall hearing anything like that come from Jay. And on the whole I don't put a lot credit into 'soundbite' Bruce who like his father, is a master of not giving up any real information. (except Bruce is way smooth about it) So I tend not to put much stock in those hints from Bruce. Now if Jay, the HC/playcaller, hinted at changes that would be meaningful to me.

I would be interested to know/read what Jay said I may have missed it because I was out of the media loop for a week around the draft time.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by 30gut

He being Jay?

I recall Bruce Allen hinting here: Bruce Allen says changes coming to Washington Redskins' offense - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN that there would be changes to the offense but I don't recall hearing anything like that come from Jay. And on the whole I don't put a lot credit into 'soundbite' Bruce who like his father, is a master of not giving up any real information. (except Bruce is way smooth about it) So I tend not to put much stock in those hints from Bruce. Now if Jay, the HC/playcaller, hinted at changes that would be meaningful to me.

I would be interested to know/read what Jay said I may have missed it because I was out of the media loop for a week around the draft time.

It was in an article I read, can't recall where few weeks maybe a month back, touched on the read option with Robert, having a better success running and "re-tooling" or tweaking the offense a little... Can't recall where though

[30gut]

A 50/50 Split for the Redskins

A 50/50 SPLIT FOR THE REDSKINS

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 30gut

A 50/50 Split for the Redskins

A 50/50 SPLIT FOR THE REDSKINS

Run the hell out of the ball, play good D, and we just might be somewhat respectable.

[MTK]

I think we'll see just how far SM's influence goes by how Jay calls plays this year.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think we'll see just how far SM's influence goes by how Jay calls plays this year.

Why should play calling or offense be dictated by the GM? If this is the case, maybe he needs to pick his own coach? (which I'm fine with)




That said, I think Jay is going to run a lot more this year. I think Jay (and Scott) both know that they can't rely on any of the QBs on the roster and that a solid OL and run game will carry the team a long way.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why should play calling or offense be dictated by the GM? If this is the case, maybe he needs to pick his own coach? (which I'm fine with)




That said, I think Jay is going to run a lot more this year. I think Jay (and Scott) both know that they can't rely on any of the QBs on the roster and that a solid OL and run game will carry the team a long way.

Based on the type of talent SM is adding, Gruden better use it accordingly is all. If the offensive side of the ball is shaping up to be a running team, he sure as hell better run it. It's not about SM dictating anything, I just want to see how Gruden adjusts.

[Kope]

I would think it should be a gradual trend towards running more over the next two or three years.

Game situation is the majority of what causes our pass percentages. Over time, a better defense, better special teams and better execution on the offense (line and QB) will allow us to be more run heavy.

Not sure it will manifest completly this year...would be nice though.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Based on the type of talent SM is adding, Gruden better use it accordingly is all. If the offensive side of the ball is shaping up to be a running team, he sure as hell better run it. It's not about SM dictating anything, I just want to see how Gruden adjusts.

yup...if not, lets welcome Bill Calahan or Darrell Bevell as your new Redskins HC.

[Defensewins]

Last season we had a weak offensive line and even worse defense. I know nobody is implying that if we just magically changed our play calling we would have been better. But to artificially set a % of run to pass and win, you have to have start with a good talented team that is not playing from behind all the time.
When it comes to play calling % run to pass, I would rather do what works and not be predictable. To have the skill/flexibility to (hypothetically) run 60% one game and come right back the next game and pass 60% and win. Just win, be dynamic and not be predicable. i would like that.

[SirLK26]

Jay's hiring of Callahan says a lot in my opinion. That points to a desire to get more physical and run more effectively, which Jay talked about last year even before McCloughan was hired.

I think a big part of the reason for passing so much was the lack of success running on first down. Our first-down-YPC average was 5.43, 20th in the league. I bet Gruden gets the fuzzies thinking about adding a big mauler in Scherff and a nasty versatile runner in Jones to his offense.

[skinsfaninok]

I'd love to be a 50-50 offense but I would bet on running the ball much more