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Old 11-12-2017, 04:40 PM   #1
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Post game and what needs to be done going forward.

Ugly loss, got rolled by case keenum. That game was over at half. We looked great early but then of course caved like usual. Very hard to watch this team weekly. We suck at home. Burn down fedex now.

Looking forward it's time to play Harris and doc all the time and just go with it. Sit glassman reed the rest of the season and Trent Williams as well.

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Yeah agreed, no sense making Trent suffer the whole season when it's clear we're not going anywhere.

Can't understand how Norman and Breeland let Stefon Diggs and Adam Theilen ball out on them today. Clearly they underestimated the Vikings wideouts.
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Yeah agreed, no sense making Trent suffer the whole season when it's clear we're not going anywhere.

Can't understand how Norman and Breeland let Stefon Diggs and Adam Theilen ball out on them today. Clearly they underestimated the Vikings wideouts.
No pass rush at all, it was a joke.

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Yup. Depth sucks, and we're really missing Ionnaidis and Allen. I kinda expect our pass rush to suck for the rest of the year. Rushing 4 used to work early on but with our injuries I think Manusky needs to start getting more creative with his blitzes because right now there's no rush.
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Yup. Depth sucks, and we're really missing Ionnaidis and Allen. I kinda expect our pass rush to suck for the rest of the year. Rushing 4 used to work early on but with our injuries I think Manusky needs to start getting more creative with his blitzes because right now there's no rush.
we've had the most unimagined, vanilla, unispired and retarded defense for over 10 years no matter who the coordinator - it's fucking brutal to watch every week. I dont think we have run a stunt, or delayed blitz or anything creative one time ALL SEASON - IT MAKES ME FUCKIN WANNA VOMIT.
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we've had the most unimagined, vanilla, unispired and retarded defense for over 10 years no matter who the coordinator - it's fucking brutal to watch every week. I dont think we have run a stunt, or delayed blitz or anything creative one time ALL SEASON - IT MAKES ME FUCKIN WANNA VOMIT.
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It felt like Manusky was coaching scared. He must've thought Keenum was Brady or Rodgers or something.
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Jonathan Allen and Ionnidis are clearly missed. We're weak up front without them. And we need a damn NT. How do you run a 3-4 for like a decade and never get a real one?
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Jonathan Allen and Ionnidis are clearly missed. We're weak up front without them. And we need a damn NT. How do you run a 3-4 for like a decade and never get a real one?
Phil Taylor was having a great camp and
Got hurt.
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Yeah, but that was an after thought signing. I'm talking about a genuine investment to get a legit NT.
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We just aren't solid enough yet to play well on each side or at each positional group to regularly win games. It's always some side/group plays well and another side/group sucks.

A win this game would have beem great for the rest of the year. Now its back against the wall again. Feel like we almost have to win out now. And we can't pull that off.
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Yeah, but that was an after thought signing. I'm talking about a genuine investment to get a legit NT.
I want the first fucking pick to be the big mutherfucker from Alabama, daron Payne. Put his ass right in the middle of the dline
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Yeah agreed, no sense making Trent suffer the whole season when it's clear we're not going anywhere.

Can't understand how Norman and Breeland let Stefon Diggs and Adam Theilen ball out on them today. Clearly they underestimated the Vikings wideouts.
"Underestimated" the Vikings' WR's? I doubt it. Diggs is one of those quick, twitchy dudes, and those types occasionally give Norman trouble.

Breeland is an enigma. He'll have a solid game (whether, against a good or mediocre wideout), and then he'll come back and have a crappy ass game (against a good or average wideout).

The defense clearly let us down. The offense scored 30 points against the #3 ranked D in the NFL, but allow an average offense rip off 38 points. Three plays in this game came back to haunt us, and I said it when those plays happened.

One was the 4th down pass to Chris Thompson. A better pass by Cousins, and it's a TD. We ended up settling for a FG. Instead, of it being 14-7, it's 10-7. Another one was when Doctson had beaten his man in the end zone, but ended up slipping on his route. It would've been an easy TD. A couple plays later, and we're settling for another FG. Instead, of it being 35-24 in favor of the Vikings; it's 35-20. The last one was the bomb where Doctson had two steps on the defender and Cousins overthrew him. That would've made it 35-27 going into the 4th quarter. A couple plays later it's 4th down and the Vikings stop us on downs.

The first two stick out more so than the latter play. If you convert the first two plays, I mentioned, into TD's (which, they should've been), then you clearly have a different ballgame. At worst, it would've been 35-28, Vikings, going into the 4th quarter. A totally, different ballgame.

Another issue with this team.... Consistency. One week, the defense does its job and the offense sucks like a pair of donkey gonads and vice-versa.

I think our defensive line looked better last week because Seattle O-line somewhat stinks. Minnesota O-line is obviously better, and pretty much handled our "backup" defensive line. If Keenum wasn't getting time to throw, then Murray was gashing us up the middle. Basically, their O-line matched up better with our D-line. Frankly, I would've just came after Keenum (after he started eating us up) and let the chips fall where they lay.

Today was a day we missed having guys like Allen and Ioan man. Both of those two were consistently getting a push up the middle on teams. For the person, who stated Phil Taylor was having a good camp and preseason.... That is correct. Imagine, if Allen, Taylor and Ioannidis were healthy.

Only two teams are capable of "getting away" with the amount of injuries we've had and still compete at a good rate. Those teams are the Patriots and Packers. Reason being, they have the two best QB's in the league.

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Our defense sucked today. Norman and Breeland sucked, the vikes OL
nullified our pass rush. Play calling was conservative pussy, coaching all
Around sucked, team seemed unprepared, Cousins was wishy washy and either over throwing or under throwing.
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We did have the longest sack streak but I think it ended today

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S/N I keep forgetting to mention the field looked like dog shit today. Thought they made a new plan to swap the field after half the season each year after the RG3 playoff debacle? That shit was half dirt today.
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