Same Ol' Story

[skinsguy]

Can't win when you turn the ball over. We shot ourselves in the foot with this one. The first turnover wasn't Brunell's fault necessarily, but the other two turnovers should've never happened. Turnovers and stupid penalities. Until we fix those two problems, it's going to be hard for us to pick up wins against good teams.

[hurrykaine]

yes, I would cut Rock Cartwright to send a message. The benching of one Derrick DOckery is also necessary - he sucks!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

yes, I would cut Rock Cartwright to send a message. The benching of one Derrick DOckery is also necessary - he sucks!

Cutting Cartwright is not the answer. I remember people wanted to cut Antonio Pierce after he tried to draw Dallas players offsides in a game in 2003. Let's be upset (or even angry), but not hasty.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Cutting Cartwright is not the answer. I remember people wanted to cut Antonio Pierce after he tried to draw Dallas players offsides in a game in 2003. Let's be upset (or even angry), but not hasty.

If Antonio Brown can get cut after one fumble, so can Cartwright. Cartwright has shown a propensity to fumble in the past. The Carolina game in 2003 - the fumbled on the goal-line while going in for a TD and it cost us the game. Cartwright picked up the first down, he should've protected the ball better. If you have to send a message that turnovers will not be tolerated, and since you can't cut your QB for fumbling, Rock should be made an example of. That said, since everyone loves Rock for his work ethic and character, there's a good chance that we'll be able to re-sign him in a week or so.

I know it won't happen, but its a great way to send a message to the players that TOs won't be tolerated.

[SmootSmack]

With Betts hurt and Portis seemingly limping off the field after each carry, can we really even afford to cut Rock?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

With Betts hurt and Portis seemingly limping off the field after each carry, can we really even afford to cut Rock?

quite simply, no

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

If Antonio Brown can get cut after one fumble, so can Cartwright. Cartwright has shown a propensity to fumble in the past. The Carolina game in 2003 - the fumbled on the goal-line while going in for a TD and it cost us the game. Cartwright picked up the first down, he should've protected the ball better. If you have to send a message that turnovers will not be tolerated, and since you can't cut your QB for fumbling, Rock should be made an example of. That said, since everyone loves Rock for his work ethic and character, there's a good chance that we'll be able to re-sign him in a week or so.

I know it won't happen, but its a great way to send a message to the players that TOs won't be tolerated.

How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?

Protecting the ball with both hands is a start.

[RedskinNation21]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?

Ok, because Brunell has won three games and is throwing for over 300 yards a game and he also redeems himself. All Rock did was run once and then fumble at a critical time. There is no comparison. Bad example...Cut Rock, let Nemo have the rock and the rock can go Find Nemo on the playing field.

[gibbsisback]

I think they should Nehemiah Broughton a few carries. He kicked butt in preseason

[RedskinRat]

Horrible game to watch, when the team was looking so strong and they kill a great drive by putting the ball on the turf. Also the early calls were disgusting particularly the 4th down conversion spot.

I'd also like to have seen Arrington on the field on long 3rd downs....

Damn it! One we should have won.

[skinsguy]

Well, if you cut anybody, and the Redskins are not in a situation where they can do so, you'd cut Jimoh. Honestly, he just doesn't belong on the defense. He might be a decent special teams guy, but he either gets beat or he commits the pass interference. We need Springs back in a huge way.

[Daseal]

Can't win when you turn the ball over.

We've won 3 games with a negative turnover ratio. Not that I enjoy winning that way, but it is possible.

[sniks]

Originally Posted by Daseal

We've won 3 games with a negative turnover ratio. Not that I enjoy winning that way, but it is possible.

not sure of the % number but its something crazy like 10 % of the time you win with 3 or more T.O. s

[skinsguy]

Well, let me put it this way, you can't KEEP winning turning the ball over. Especially when you're turning the ball over three times in a game.