(Merged Threads) LaVar Arrington and Gregg Williams

[Bozzy]

He could improve our special teams but he's being selfish. He's not a team player. I wish we could trade him.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

He could improve our special teams but he's being selfish. He's not a team player. I wish we could trade him.

LMAO WHAT A JOKE... AND LET THOSE SCRUBS PLAY AHEAD OF HIM WILLIAMS IS A SISSY VINDICTIVE BASTARD HE'S NOT THE TEAM PLAYER..WHY SHOULD HE SHUT UP HE'S BEING TREATED WRONGLY...NONE OF THOSE GUYS STARTING AHEAD OF HIM CAN CARRY HIS JOCK STRAP TO BE WASHED.

[skinsguy]

Well, we can't trade him, so we're going to have to find someway to use him. At this point, our defense has already given up 3 huge plays for TDs in the last two weeks. I'm beginning to believe that the tide is starting to shift toward our offense having to make the plays to win - which isn't a bad thing if the offense doesn't turn the ball over.

[railcon56]

I was watching Marcus Washington and he was lined up trying to blitz and it was a pitiful effort. On the screen play, Holdman was there and he was blocked off. The others had no pursuit whatsoever with no toughness or speed.

I will admit, they were where they were supposed to be. They were there but they get blocked. These guys are no names with minimal talent. I am sorry for being negative, but I am upset by Greg Williams and his dumb ass pride. Who cares if the players are in their zones if they can't make plays?

The Offense had their best game of the year, so no fault there. I will not question Brunell or Gibbs. Brunell played great and well enough to win.
That vanilla defense relies on offenses making mistakes, but it has zero chance of forcing turnovers. And what happened to all of our pressure on opposing quarterbacks? I haven't seen any in a while.

It seems to me that offenses have figured out Wiliams' defense. Jimmy Johnson (of all people) said why can't Arrington get in the game and force some turnovers? Fasten your seatbelts, there is going to be a lot of calls and questioning of Williams (with regard to Arrington) this week. This is all so petty. Find a way to compromise and get that man in the game. It's so childish, vindictive, and sick.

Like last week, the Redskins could have easily won this game. Denver isn't a better team and KC sure isn't. We keep hearing turnovers will come..HELLO week 6 in the NFL where are they? If you don't see trouble, something is wrong. This team is too talented to be losing games like this; these LB's are pitiful scrubs.

[steveo395]

i have learned not to doubt gibbs and williams...they'll fix it

[BigSKINBauer]

i don't care we can't talk shit about williams

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I was watching Marcus Washington and he was lined up trying to blitz and it was a pitiful effort. On the screen play, Holdman was there and he was blocked off. The others had no pursuit whatsoever with no toughness or speed.

I will admit, they were where they were supposed to be. They were there but they get blocked. These guys are no names with minimal talent. I am sorry for being negative, but I am upset by Greg Williams and his dumb ass pride. Who cares if the players are in their zones if they can't make plays?

The Offense had their best game of the year, so no fault there. I will not question Brunell or Gibbs. Brunell played great and well enough to win.
That vanilla defense relies on offenses making mistakes, but it has zero chance of forcing turnovers. And what happened to all of our pressure on opposing quarterbacks? I haven't seen any in a while.

It seems to me that offenses have figured out Wiliams' defense. Jimmy Johnson (of all people) said why can't Arrington get in the game and force some turnovers? Fasten your seatbelts, there is going to be a lot of calls and questioning of Williams (with regard to Arrington) this week. This is all so petty. Find a way to compromise and get that man in the game. It's so childish, vindictive, and sick.

Like last week, the Redskins could have easily won this game. Denver isn't a better team and KC sure isn't. We keep hearing turnovers will come..HELLO week 6 in the NFL where are they? If you don't see trouble, something is wrong. This team is too talented to be losing games like this; these LB's are pitiful scrubs.

There should be a hell of alot of questions. The defense is steadily going down hill. Of the big plays our D has given up, all but one have come on Holdmans side. He is getting mushed at the point of attach. The screen where Priest took to the house, Holdman was being pushed out of bounds for god sake!! Its a disgrace that he is playing all the time. Even if LaVar wasn't "the backup" somebody else would be in there. The guy is awful. He can't rush the passer, which they dont even have him doing, is Marcus who is rushing and he isn't quite getting the job done either. Its awful to think the personal thing(which every sports person seems to believe it is) is getting put ahead of the team. I can't think of 31 other teams that would have him sitting on the damn bench. Even Trent Green couldn't explain what was going on, why LaVar wasn't playing. That is was easier for them to game plan with only Sean Taylor on the field vs. both he and LaVar. Its beginning to be rediculous!

[Daseal]

Maybe LaVar will learn to stop airing his dirty laundry in public. LaVar is constantly embarrassing both himself and the organization through the DC media.

Here's an idea LaVar -- play within the scheme, you're not above the system. While I'm not a huge LaVar fan he is a good player. I'd like to get him on the field, but not until he proves he's going to play it our way.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Maybe LaVar will learn to stop airing his dirty laundry in public. LaVar is constantly embarrassing both himself and the organization through the DC media.

Here's an idea LaVar -- play within the scheme, you're not above the system. While I'm not a huge LaVar fan he is a good player. I'd like to get him on the field, but not until he proves he's going to play it our way.

Yeah like the rest have proved anything ..well at least he has proved he can play..wtf have any of those other scrubs proved ...they want him to shut up an be a good little boy F_ck that why should he..LMAO what system hello watch i bet we are #7 or 8 this week the system is pathetic NO NAMES with no talet..play to ur strengths.....

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Yeah like the rest have proved anything ..well at least he has proved he can play..wtf have any of those other scrubs proved ...they want him to shut up an be a good little boy F_ck that why should he..LMAO what system hello watch i bet we are #7 or 8 this week the system is pathetic NO NAMES with no talet..play to ur strengths.....

man cuz the #7 or 8 defense is so bad
williams and gibbs know a lot more about whats going on than you ever will
we lost this game because of 3 fumbles, not because of our defense

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Maybe LaVar will learn to stop airing his dirty laundry in public. LaVar is constantly embarrassing both himself and the organization through the DC media.

Here's an idea LaVar -- play within the scheme, you're not above the system. While I'm not a huge LaVar fan he is a good player. I'd like to get him on the field, but not until he proves he's going to play it our way.

The more and more I hear the coaches talk and tiptoe around the subject, I think he has more reason to air his dirty laundry he is just as confused as the fans are. I have been very conservative with this situation, but 0 plays again and a couple on special teams. We had numerous 3rd and longs which at the beginning was his speciality and the packages that the coaches said he was in. GW says who am I supposed to take out Phillip Daniels or Renaldo Wynn. I have to say HELL yeah they are putting no pressure on the QB in those situations. The coaches are just driving him into the ground and making it sound like he is a damn dirtbag 0 plays. He is better than that.

[railcon56]

Sorry i shouldn't have said i hated his guts ... too emotional..it was just seeing those LB's get pushed around... it was horrible...and it's personal..it's obviously personal... a coach is supposed to put his feelings aside and do whats best for the team ..like him or not lavar has talents ...

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Maybe LaVar will learn to stop airing his dirty laundry in public. LaVar is constantly embarrassing both himself and the organization through the DC media.

Here's an idea LaVar -- play within the scheme, you're not above the system. While I'm not a huge LaVar fan he is a good player. I'd like to get him on the field, but not until he proves he's going to play it our way.

You know, I got into with a guy last week about this and it still annoys the hell out of me when people think LaVar has all of the sudden forgotton how to play football, schematically or not. It obsurd to think LaVar isn't a good enough player to be on the field. Have you seen Holdman get taken out of basically every single play that comes to his side. The corners are making the tackles. Holdman is getting mushed!! No matter what people think, this has nothing to do about ability, than ego. the EGO of GW thinking his D doesn't need LaVar Arrington. I am wondering how long it will take for him to realize he needs playmakers on the field. I mean if we are going to give up 4 BIG plays a game with LaVar on sideline, somebody is out of position. I think its funny that the side giving up majority of the big plays is LaVars side. Which I dont think bell would have gotten both of those long runs if LaVar is on the field, and definately the long screen pass with Priest would not have gone to the house. People on the D are trying to make up for Holdmans lack making plays and our safeties and corners are being forced out of position. the safety should have made that tackle, or the corner on the other side. Lets see somebody elses ass get benched for being out of position.

[WVU SkinsFan56]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

He could improve our special teams but he's being selfish. He's not a team player. I wish we could trade him.

You must have missed the parts of the game when He was in playing on the punt return team!!!!!! It aint Lavar's fault, GW has his head so far up his own ass!

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by WVU SkinsFan56

You must have missed the parts of the game when He was in playing on the punt return team!!!!!! It aint Lavar's fault, GW has his head so far up his own ass!

I hate williams his head is his ass.... he's no genius explais why so he's been with so many teams..